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Seer1 07-23-2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 755714)
Ugh. I'm so bored! Longest off season ever! How much ****ing longer?!!!

A lot ****ing longer!

K Major 07-23-2017 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 755685)
Niether The Spartans Malik McDowell I think his name is

Oh the Spartan. At 11 he would have been a reach ... I had concerns even at 32. He had too many question marks about his desire and work ethic. Too many past performances where scouts question his motivation & consistency. I believe Malik would be better in a 3-4 D. Didn't appear to be a "fit" in NO anyway.

For me personally, I'd stay away from guys with questionable effort anywhere in the draft.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 755709)
There were better value for those picks. Oh yea and Carl Lawson.

And none of them have played a single down in the NFL. Wait three years before making those proclamations.

Rell&Gold 07-23-2017 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 755722)
And none of them have played a single down in the NFL. Wait three years before making those proclamations.

So how can you say we got the best value at those spots in the draft? Our players havent played a down either. A little contradiction there. Also Malik McDowell was THE ONLY player worth drafting on that terible defense I mean he did play EVERY DL pos also Taco was said to "take plays off" didnt hurt his stock, and every other player has red flags NO PLAYERis perfect. I actually watched Game tape on Malik I disagree with takes plays off, but you know to each his own.

AsylumGuido 07-24-2017 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 755744)
So how can you say we got the best value at those spots in the draft? Our players havent played a down either. A little contradiction there. Also Malik McDowell was THE ONLY player worth drafting on that terible defense I mean he did play EVERY DL pos also Taco was said to "take plays off" didnt hurt his stock, and every other player has red flags NO PLAYERis perfect. I actually watched Game tape on Malik I disagree with takes plays off, but you know to each his own.

According to draft "experts" we got value at every pick. How they actually turn out there is no way to know. We'll find out well down the road for most. Although, I hope there is a Michael Thomas or two which shine early.

Seer1 07-25-2017 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 755744)
So how can you say we got the best value at those spots in the draft? Our players havent played a down either. A little contradiction there. Also Malik McDowell was THE ONLY player worth drafting on that terible defense I mean he did play EVERY DL pos also Taco was said to "take plays off" didnt hurt his stock, and every other player has red flags NO PLAYERis perfect. I actually watched Game tape on Malik I disagree with takes plays off, but you know to each his own.

There's no "best" in any draft until three-four years down the road. Pretty good is about as far as it goes and we did that. We didn't hit every position you thought we should've, but there are only so many draft picks and we had a boatload of areas to address. I watch a lot of B1G football through the year and I agree that Taco does take a lot of vacations too. I was glad we didn't take either of the Michigan hyped up food groups. I really didn't see that much special in Malik. He dominated the lesser lines, but he'd often disappear when he was up against good talent. Shoot, look at the head to head of the Spartans vs the Badgers last year. He had one tackle and one assist. Not only was nobody home, the lights weren't even on.

vpheughan 07-25-2017 10:18 AM

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How can it be that "They haven't played a down ......judge after 3 years.
YET "EXPERTS" declare them "Great Value" when selected?
Seems the "Experts" left out an important word. "Potential"

So you can "Have your cake" and "Eat it too"!
Potentially of course!

Seer1 07-25-2017 11:54 AM

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In my days I've run across a lot of real estate agents who love that word "potential".

AsylumGuido 07-25-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 755884)
How can it be that "They haven't played a down ......judge after 3 years.
YET "EXPERTS" declare them "Great Value" when selected?
Seems the "Experts" left out an important word. "Potential"

So you can "Have your cake" and "Eat it too"!
Potentially of course!

Exactly. At this point there is ONLY potential.


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