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The Dude 07-25-2017 11:39 AM

Offensive line?
 
Is there anyone out there worth a damn that we can sign this late in the game? If so how do we make space. Armstead didn't bother me much because it was kind of expected and we've done ok without him in the past. Missing Unger is gonna hurt if he can't get back early. Kelemente was a surprise. That leaves us dangerously thin and I think it's a concern worth addressing.

I really think we have the potential to finally have a good to great running game which will help take some of the pressure off Brees. We are deep there too.

If a couple of these starters had gone down during the season fine, but starting out of the gate this thin is what bothers me.

Imo we have to win one of the first 2 games. We do that and we can make a run.

AsylumGuido 07-25-2017 11:52 AM

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I think you are overreacting to Kelemente's being designated as preseason Active/PUP. Any player that is currently unable to clear the pre-camp physical gets placed on the PUP, no matter how minor the situation may be.

Last year at this time:

07/25/2016 25 - Placed LT Terron Armstead, WR Vincent Brown, LB Hau'oli Kikaha and CB Keenan Lewis on the active/physically unable to perform list.

halloween 65 07-25-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 755893)
I think you are overreacting to Kelemente's being designated as preseason Active/PUP. Any player that is currently unable to clear the pre-camp physical gets placed on the PUP, no matter how minor the situation may be.

Last year at this time:

07/25/2016 25 - Placed LT Terron Armstead, WR Vincent Brown, LB Hau'oli Kikaha and CB Keenan Lewis on the active/physically unable to perform list.

And how many played?

The Dude 07-25-2017 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 755896)
And how many played?

Exactly.

And those were far from minor injuries or simply not passing a physical.

AsylumGuido 07-25-2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 755896)
And how many played?

Armstead. That was the one I was wanting to point out. He was close to being ready, but not there yet. Another notable name on the 2017 Active/PUP list is Andrew Luck. Any doubt he's going to play?

If there was anything of great note about Kelemente we would have had word. Y'all are welcome to expect the worst. I don't.

|Mitch| 07-25-2017 01:46 PM

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And common sense would dictate that anyone worth their salt would have already been signed; especially on the O-Line which teams put a pretty high premium on...

The Dude 07-25-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 755902)
And common sense would dictate that anyone worth their salt would have already been signed; especially on the O-Line which teams put a pretty high premium on...

So basically it was a stupid question and not worth pointing out?

Crusader 07-25-2017 03:13 PM

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Michael Oher just became a FA but he is a tackle, and not a very good one.

Seer1 07-25-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 755919)
Michael Oher just became a FA but he is a tackle, and not a very good one.

Likes to chew on Uber drivers, right?

saintshrimp 07-25-2017 04:10 PM

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Both lines need help need to add a vet to both sides kaihl Barnes is not the vet imho go get the center from tje jets ungar may or may not be healthy and center is the most inportant for our offense

|Mitch| 07-25-2017 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 755905)
So basically it was a stupid question and not worth pointing out?

Pretty much...

AsylumGuido 07-25-2017 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 755934)
Pretty much...

:lolup:

The Dude 07-25-2017 04:19 PM

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More and more like SR every day.

|Mitch| 07-25-2017 04:23 PM

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I couldn't tell you; I've never ever been to that site, let alone been a member over there...

But from what I've heard, you get banned for anything. That doesn't happen here; everyone may have their spats, but at the end of the day it's all in fun

Papa Voodoo 07-25-2017 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 755892)
Is there anyone out there worth a damn that we can sign this late in the game? If so how do we make space. Armstead didn't bother me much because it was kind of expected and we've done ok without him in the past. Missing Unger is gonna hurt if he can't get back early. Kelemente was a surprise. That leaves us dangerously thin and I think it's a concern worth addressing.

I really think we have the potential to finally have a good to great running game which will help take some of the pressure off Brees. We are deep there too.

If a couple of these starters had gone down during the season fine, but starting out of the gate this thin is what bothers me.

Imo we have to win one of the first 2 games. We do that and we can make a run.

I think we should go after someone like Kristjan Sokoli...:D

|Mitch| 07-25-2017 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 755938)
I think we should go after someone like Kristjan Sokoli...:D

Very interesting...

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 755939)
The Saints are adding a defensive lineman who was converted to center, who was then converted to a defensive end, and who is now being converted to a guard.


AsylumGuido 07-25-2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 755942)
Very interesting...

Camp body written all over it.

WillSaints81 07-25-2017 04:37 PM

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Sigh.....

jnormand 07-25-2017 05:24 PM

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Offensive line depth bothers me. Seems like we're spinning our wheels here and not gaining any ground. I hope the rookie can play left tackle from day one so Peat can play left guard.

The Dude 07-25-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 755950)
Offensive line depth bothers me. Seems like we're spinning our wheels here and not gaining any ground. I hope the rookie can play left tackle from day one so Peat can play left guard.

Who knows, we may find a cast off from another team deep at that position that fits here.

AsylumGuido 07-25-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 755950)
Offensive line depth bothers me. Seems like we're spinning our wheels here and not gaining any ground. I hope the rookie can play left tackle from day one so Peat can play left guard.

Um, our offense will never be a problem with Payton and Brees. Worry about something else.

Danno 07-25-2017 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 755976)
Um, our offense will never be a problem with Payton and Brees. Worry about something else.

I still don't know why people worry about our offense. Its been elite for a decade.

The Dude 07-25-2017 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 755977)
I still don't know why people worry about our offense. Its been elite for a decade.

Yea because of an elite QB who is going to start needing protection more now than ever.

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-25-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 755977)
I still don't know why people worry about our offense. Its been elite for a decade.

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 755980)
Yea because of an elite QB who is going to start needing protection more now than ever.

Why? Did something happen in the offseason that we're unaware of?

Brees has aways needs protection to be productive. Brees has been productive up until the last game a few months ago.

So exactly what happened that makes this such an urgent issue?

SFIAH

The Dude 08-11-2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 755976)
Um, our offense will never be a problem with Payton and Brees. Worry about something else.

Yea no problems there on offensive line. Love the depth we have there. You are right what a dumb post I made.

CharityMike 08-11-2017 01:43 PM

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I get why Dude is concerned. I am personally more of a optimist and I truly feel we will be ok. But the comment about maybe someone will get dropped could very well happen. So lets not panic yet until we need to. Keep the faith!

AsylumGuido 08-11-2017 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 758535)
I get why Dude is concerned. I am personally more of a optimist and I truly feel we will be ok. But the comment about maybe someone will get dropped could very well happen. So lets not panic yet until we need to. Keep the faith!

I agree, even with Dude's concern, but this is the preseason and the starters were on the sideline. Another major factor was that isn't wasn't Drew Brees taking the snaps. He has the ability to make his offensive line look much better.

The Dude 08-11-2017 01:56 PM

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Also he had the ability to take the team to 10 wins or 0 wins depending on his health. Our starters can keep him clean. Let's hope Unger and Rami are back. I also think we will see a pick up or two from elsewhere. Especially when cuts start coming .

CharityMike 08-11-2017 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 758536)
I agree, even with Dude's concern, but this is the preseason and the starters were on the sideline. Another major factor was that isn't wasn't Drew Brees taking the snaps. He has the ability to make his offensive line look much better.

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758538)
Also he had the ability to take the team to 10 wins or 0 wins depending on his health. Our starters can keep him clean. Let's hope Unger and Rami are back. I also think we will see a pick up or two from elsewhere. Especially when cuts start coming .

Both valid points. I remember last preseason thinking we were totally screwed with the O line. Remember how terrible they looked? It worked out pretty well though.

AsylumGuido 08-11-2017 02:02 PM

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I really need to re-watch the game. I was a bit preoccupied. My son's first album was released around midnight eastern time and it is currently sitting at #3 on the Blues chart on iTunes. Facebook has been blowing up. LOL

Euphoria 08-11-2017 02:27 PM

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I don't think you can evaluate a team or a group in preseason. All you can do is evaluate players playing a potition. Who has it and who doesn't. The player they are lining up against or next to chances or may not even make a roster.

You are looking for the best 11 guys you can put on the field at one time.

right now I am worried what to do that my keeper RB from Dallas is suspended for 6 games!

hagan714 08-11-2017 03:05 PM

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wait for roster cut downs. always a few surprises in that group

AsylumGuido 08-11-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 758543)
I don't think you can evaluate a team or a group in preseason. All you can do is evaluate players playing a potition. Who has it and who doesn't. The player they are lining up against or next to chances or may not even make a roster.

You are looking for the best 11 guys you can put on the field at one time.

right now I am worried what to do that my keeper RB from Dallas is suspended for 6 games!

Avoid Dallas players. I am in three IDP leagues (one a dynasty league) and their defensive players are hurting owners with suspensions, too.

spkb25 08-11-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 758543)
I don't think you can evaluate a team or a group in preseason. All you can do is evaluate players playing a potition. Who has it and who doesn't. The player they are lining up against or next to chances or may not even make a roster.

You are looking for the best 11 guys you can put on the field at one time.

right now I am worried what to do that my keeper RB from Dallas is suspended for 6 games!

me too!

spkb25 08-11-2017 05:24 PM

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Dude im not worried because armistead, unger, and everyone just has cramps. It's all cramps. I know this is true because those with a superiority complex said so.

AsylumGuido 08-11-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758580)
Dude im not worried because armistead, unger, and everyone just has cramps. It's all cramps. I know this is true because those with a superiority complex said so.

You can't irritate me at all today! Today is far too great. My son's EP that was released this morning is now #2 on the iTunes Blues album chart.

:band:

Nothing but love, man. Nothing but love!

jnormand 08-11-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 758581)
You can't irritate me at all today! Today is far too great. My son's EP that was released this morning is now #2 on the iTunes Blues album chart.

:band:

Nothing but love, man. Nothing but love!

That's good to hear. I've been listening to his music via Facebook for months now. Will be nice to be able to download the album.

Regardless of your personal feelings about Guido, you owe it to yourself to listen to some of Cameron's music. Very talented young man. Great music!

spkb25 08-11-2017 05:49 PM

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Dude- Ram was back at practice today. I think the cramps that sidelined him for multiple days finally subsided.

The Dude 08-11-2017 05:49 PM

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Funny how you post incessantly all day every day all preseason shooting everyone's opinions down, like the idea we needed help any along the offensive line. Yet you disappear after a real game when you realize most of us were right. Probably were up all night figuring how to save face.
No wonder you get bent out of shape so easily.

spkb25 08-11-2017 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 758592)
That's good to hear. I've been listening to his music via Facebook for months now. Will be nice to be able to download the album.

Regardless of your personal feelings about Guido, you owe it to yourself to listen to some of Cameron's music. Very talented young man. Great music!

JNorm I tried but I kept getting cramps. Sadly an apparent side effect


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