He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities

08-09-2017, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

How would you know if it was a one time mistake? Would it be because Kenny boy said? Not so sure about 10 times a month, thats every 3 days which is highly doubtful + if he took it before a game and didn't get tested for 3 days it's out of his system. I pee test all the time along with other guys, some clean, some dirty and EVERYONE, clean or dirty know how to beat a pee test. A 6,8,or 10 panel test would be no problem passing. Some even use other guys pee or synthetic to pass those test, unless blood is drawn, hair folicle, or spinal tap is done pee test are pretty much a joke. I do know a guy that was definately dirty that got by on a hair folicle by buying some kind of gel at a place called Claires.

If you believe he is a chronic Adderall user you might be interested to know that Adderall can be detected in a common urine test a week after use. The source for that is here.

And yes, the NFL routinely does testing up to ten times per month especially on new offenders. And they are totally random tests at any time of day in any location. And I guarantee you he is tested before every game. And the CBA testing standards require the tester to witness the sample given. If the player is not available it counts as a failed test. It would be impossible to use and not get caught under those parameters.

I know you are a Vaccaro hater, but you have to search somewhere else for a reason to hate.

hagan714 · 08-09-2017, 06:42 PM

he is a pest and a good pest at that.

Rell&Gold · 08-10-2017, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The vast majority of the safeties in the NFL can't cover a #2 receiver one on one.

Lmao Kill. I was thinking that too, Like....well damn! When did SS start checking #2 WR let alone with NO help.

The Dude · 08-10-2017, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The adderall was a one time mistake. He is now on the program and gets tested up to ten times a month year round. He is the least likely person on the team, next to Brees, to get busted for anything like that again.

And how and the hell would you know this? I don't care about adderol or anything he did in the past as long as it doesn't happen again. There is no way anyone could know weather or not it will happen again. To say he is the least likely player to do it again is asinine. What about the other players who haven't gotten busted for anything? Do you honestly think a player with no history is more likely to do it than a player who has already done it?
I love how sure of everything you are.

And I hope all the shuffling and "versatility" we are hearing about isn't just the coaches trying to cover up areas that are lacking or weak.

The Dude · 08-10-2017, 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

How would you know if it was a one time mistake? Would it be because Kenny boy said? Not so sure about 10 times a month, thats every 3 days which is highly doubtful + if he took it before a game and didn't get tested for 3 days it's out of his system. I pee test all the time along with other guys, some clean, some dirty and EVERYONE, clean or dirty know how to beat a pee test. A 6,8,or 10 panel test would be no problem passing. Some even use other guys pee or synthetic to pass those test, unless blood is drawn, hair folicle, or spinal tap is done pee test are pretty much a joke. I do know a guy that was definately dirty that got by on a hair folicle by buying some kind of gel at a place called Claires.

Exactly. Now that he knows he can expect them coming he knows he has to cover his ass every time. Nobody ever gets caught the first time they do something. This was just the first time he got caught.
I wouldn't sweat it. Guido knows absolutely nothing about the real world. He only regurgitates everything he reads in articles. He's a sheep that believes anything he hears in the media.
I doubt the NFL puts much into their drug testing policy anyway. Yea you have to pop a player or two every now and then and make an example but they don't want the negative publicity and bad for business. Just enough to make it appear that they are doing all they can.
And what the hell dies this have to do with Brees? He never failed one so I don't know where again comes from.
What a clueless douche.

hagan714 · 08-10-2017, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The vast majority of the safeties in the NFL can't cover a #2 receiver one on one.

I agree and have been beating the drum for freaks at their positions no matter team needs. Last year was OJ Howard

Freak Modern Day SS with coverage skills have always been on my list despite Kenny and still dieappointed we did not go after them.
2016 Sean Davis SS
2014 Deone Bucannon SS

next year does not look as freaky. So an early pick on SS is doubtful but not out of the question
Ronnie Harrison, SS Alabama 6011 214 4.57 #15 Jr

This the the one I am keeping a close eye on as a possible Day 3 steal
Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr

I am not happy with SS play and have not been for while. I miss Roman still but he does not fit the modern day SS either. He was better than anything we have now.

halloween 65 · 08-10-2017, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Exactly. Now that he knows he can expect them coming he knows he has to cover his ass every time. Nobody ever gets caught the first time they do something. This was just the first time he got caught.
I wouldn't sweat it. Guido knows absolutely nothing about the real world. He only regurgitates everything he reads in articles. He's a sheep that believes anything he hears in the media.
I doubt the NFL puts much into their drug testing policy anyway. Yea you have to pop a player or two every now and then and make an example but they don't want the negative publicity and bad for business. Just enough to make it appear that they are doing all they can.
And what the hell dies this have to do with Brees? He never failed one so I don't know where again comes from.
What a clueless douche.

I was going to say to him don't believe everything he reads but sometimes for just letting it go I stop posting for the sake of arguement. If he believes it then there is little to nothing to change his way of thinking.

halloween 65 · 08-10-2017, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I agree and have been beating the drum for freaks at their positions no matter team needs. Last year was OJ Howard

Freak Modern Day SS with coverage skills have always been on my list despite Kenny and still dieappointed we did not go after them.
2016 Sean Davis SS
2014 Deone Bucannon SS

next year does not look as freaky. So an early pick on SS is doubtful but not out of the question
Ronnie Harrison, SS Alabama 6011 214 4.57 #15 Jr

This the the one I am keeping a close eye on as a possible Day 3 steal
Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr

I am not happy with SS play and have not been for while. I miss Roman still but he does not fit the modern day SS either. He was better than anything we have now.

I beat the drum for Bucannon that draft. Would have loved Davis also.

Seer1 · 08-10-2017, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Lmao Kill. I was thinking that too, Like....well damn! When did SS start checking #2 WR let alone with NO help.

I think that happened with our safeties the past two-three years although maybe not by design...

AsylumGuido · 08-10-2017, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

And how and the hell would you know this? I don't care about adderol or anything he did in the past as long as it doesn't happen again. There is no way anyone could know weather or not it will happen again. To say he is the least likely player to do it again is asinine. What about the other players who haven't gotten busted for anything? Do you honestly think a player with no history is more likely to do it than a player who has already done it?
I love how sure of everything you are.

And I hope all the shuffling and "versatility" we are hearing about isn't just the coaches trying to cover up areas that are lacking or weak.

I know you have trouble comprehending, but what part of 10 random tests per month at any time of day and place do you not understand? Now why would you take Adderall? Perhaps to improve your game day performance? When a player is in the program they get tested EVERY game day. He is the most closely monitored player on the team now. That makes him the least likely. Unlike some idiots that constantly get busted for pot, Vaccaro isn't stupid. He has learned from his mistake. He has stressed the very fact.

And it doesn't surprise me that you would come up with some negative connotation for the "versatility". It's how you roll.

08-09-2017, 06:01 PM	#11
Threaded by AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by halloween 65 How would you know if it was a one time mistake? Would it be because Kenny boy said? Not so sure about 10 times a month, thats every 3 days which is highly doubtful + if he took it before a game and didn't get tested for 3 days it's out of his system. I pee test all the time along with other guys, some clean, some dirty and EVERYONE, clean or dirty know how to beat a pee test. A 6,8,or 10 panel test would be no problem passing. Some even use other guys pee or synthetic to pass those test, unless blood is drawn, hair folicle, or spinal tap is done pee test are pretty much a joke. I do know a guy that was definately dirty that got by on a hair folicle by buying some kind of gel at a place called Claires. If you believe he is a chronic Adderall user you might be interested to know that Adderall can be detected in a common urine test a week after use. The source for that is here. And yes, the NFL routinely does testing up to ten times per month especially on new offenders. And they are totally random tests at any time of day in any location. And I guarantee you he is tested before every game. And the CBA testing standards require the tester to witness the sample given. If the player is not available it counts as a failed test. It would be impossible to use and not get caught under those parameters. I know you are a Vaccaro hater, but you have to search somewhere else for a reason to hate.
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08-09-2017, 06:42 PM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities he is a pest and a good pest at that.

08-10-2017, 01:59 AM	#13
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities Originally Posted by rezburna The vast majority of the safeties in the NFL can't cover a #2 receiver one on one. Lmao Kill. I was thinking that too, Like....well damn! When did SS start checking #2 WR let alone with NO help.

08-10-2017, 02:51 AM	#14
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The adderall was a one time mistake. He is now on the program and gets tested up to ten times a month year round. He is the least likely person on the team, next to Brees, to get busted for anything like that again. And how and the hell would you know this? I don't care about adderol or anything he did in the past as long as it doesn't happen again. There is no way anyone could know weather or not it will happen again. To say he is the least likely player to do it again is asinine. What about the other players who haven't gotten busted for anything? Do you honestly think a player with no history is more likely to do it than a player who has already done it? I love how sure of everything you are. And I hope all the shuffling and "versatility" we are hearing about isn't just the coaches trying to cover up areas that are lacking or weak.
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08-10-2017, 03:02 AM	#15
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities Originally Posted by halloween 65 How would you know if it was a one time mistake? Would it be because Kenny boy said? Not so sure about 10 times a month, thats every 3 days which is highly doubtful + if he took it before a game and didn't get tested for 3 days it's out of his system. I pee test all the time along with other guys, some clean, some dirty and EVERYONE, clean or dirty know how to beat a pee test. A 6,8,or 10 panel test would be no problem passing. Some even use other guys pee or synthetic to pass those test, unless blood is drawn, hair folicle, or spinal tap is done pee test are pretty much a joke. I do know a guy that was definately dirty that got by on a hair folicle by buying some kind of gel at a place called Claires. Exactly. Now that he knows he can expect them coming he knows he has to cover his ass every time. Nobody ever gets caught the first time they do something. This was just the first time he got caught. I wouldn't sweat it. Guido knows absolutely nothing about the real world. He only regurgitates everything he reads in articles. He's a sheep that believes anything he hears in the media. I doubt the NFL puts much into their drug testing policy anyway. Yea you have to pop a player or two every now and then and make an example but they don't want the negative publicity and bad for business. Just enough to make it appear that they are doing all they can. And what the hell dies this have to do with Brees? He never failed one so I don't know where again comes from. What a clueless douche. halloween 65 likes this.
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08-10-2017, 05:34 AM	#16
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities Originally Posted by rezburna The vast majority of the safeties in the NFL can't cover a #2 receiver one on one. I agree and have been beating the drum for freaks at their positions no matter team needs. Last year was OJ Howard Freak Modern Day SS with coverage skills have always been on my list despite Kenny and still dieappointed we did not go after them. 2016 Sean Davis SS 2014 Deone Bucannon SS next year does not look as freaky. So an early pick on SS is doubtful but not out of the question Ronnie Harrison, SS Alabama 6011 214 4.57 #15 Jr This the the one I am keeping a close eye on as a possible Day 3 steal Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr I am not happy with SS play and have not been for while. I miss Roman still but he does not fit the modern day SS either. He was better than anything we have now. halloween 65 likes this.
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08-10-2017, 06:34 AM	#17
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities Originally Posted by The Dude Exactly. Now that he knows he can expect them coming he knows he has to cover his ass every time. Nobody ever gets caught the first time they do something. This was just the first time he got caught. I wouldn't sweat it. Guido knows absolutely nothing about the real world. He only regurgitates everything he reads in articles. He's a sheep that believes anything he hears in the media. I doubt the NFL puts much into their drug testing policy anyway. Yea you have to pop a player or two every now and then and make an example but they don't want the negative publicity and bad for business. Just enough to make it appear that they are doing all they can. And what the hell dies this have to do with Brees? He never failed one so I don't know where again comes from. What a clueless douche. I was going to say to him don't believe everything he reads but sometimes for just letting it go I stop posting for the sake of arguement. If he believes it then there is little to nothing to change his way of thinking.

08-10-2017, 06:37 AM	#18
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities Originally Posted by hagan714 I agree and have been beating the drum for freaks at their positions no matter team needs. Last year was OJ Howard Freak Modern Day SS with coverage skills have always been on my list despite Kenny and still dieappointed we did not go after them. 2016 Sean Davis SS 2014 Deone Bucannon SS next year does not look as freaky. So an early pick on SS is doubtful but not out of the question Ronnie Harrison, SS Alabama 6011 214 4.57 #15 Jr This the the one I am keeping a close eye on as a possible Day 3 steal Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr I am not happy with SS play and have not been for while. I miss Roman still but he does not fit the modern day SS either. He was better than anything we have now. I beat the drum for Bucannon that draft. Would have loved Davis also. hagan714 likes this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Lmao Kill. I was thinking that too, Like....well damn! When did SS start checking #2 WR let alone with NO help. I think that happened with our safeties the past two-three years although maybe not by design...

08-10-2017, 10:46 AM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: He's a 'rock' star: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro is adding another item to his responsibilities Originally Posted by The Dude And how and the hell would you know this? I don't care about adderol or anything he did in the past as long as it doesn't happen again. There is no way anyone could know weather or not it will happen again. To say he is the least likely player to do it again is asinine. What about the other players who haven't gotten busted for anything? Do you honestly think a player with no history is more likely to do it than a player who has already done it? I love how sure of everything you are. And I hope all the shuffling and "versatility" we are hearing about isn't just the coaches trying to cover up areas that are lacking or weak. I know you have trouble comprehending, but what part of 10 random tests per month at any time of day and place do you not understand? Now why would you take Adderall? Perhaps to improve your game day performance? When a player is in the program they get tested EVERY game day. He is the most closely monitored player on the team now. That makes him the least likely. Unlike some idiots that constantly get busted for pot, Vaccaro isn't stupid. He has learned from his mistake. He has stressed the very fact. And it doesn't surprise me that you would come up with some negative connotation for the "versatility". It's how you roll.
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