Questions in players

hagan714 · 08-11-2017, 02:52 PM

Anthony and Alonzone had their flashes

Our LB corps as a whole it is too early to tell but a not bad rating works for me

Whoever is at center, specifically snaps The OL as a unit was a mess for the most part. So an incomplete applies

Kick return - hope?

Defensive ends looked solid enough

DBs really as a unit looks to be the issue. give them time to work as unit. Gel Time

K Major · 08-11-2017, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Kick return - hope?

I'd like to see TG Jr fielding a punt and/or kick return in pre season game #2. His stats were good in this phase of the game last season with the Kittens. I truly believe this (special teams play) is where he will help the Saints in 2017.

jnormand · 08-11-2017, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd like to see TG Jr fielding a punt and/or kick return in pre season game #2. His stats were good in this phase of the game last season with the Kittens. I truly believe this (special teams play) is where he will help the Saints in 2017.

Here's my question. Does Ginn ever muff punts or kicks? If not, how the hell can the guy be a reliable returner but drops passes? I understand that obviously, trajectory is completely different, but catching a punt/kick should be harder than catching a pass...at least it seems so.....

K Major · 08-11-2017, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Here's my question. Does Ginn ever muff punts or kicks? If not, how the hell can the guy be a reliable returner but drops passes? I understand that obviously, trajectory is completely different, but catching a punt/kick should be harder than catching a pass...at least it seems so.....

Not nearly as often as he would with intermediate/short passes. He's always been a situational, butter fingered field stretcher. Unfortunate for the Saints, hands of stone won't get any better at this point of his career. It's been hit or miss with him over the years. Because of his Ginn's speed, he should have a role in Sean Payton's offense but those "drops" can become drive killers in real game situations.

Hopefully Fuller, Tommy L and Brandon step up so that we won't have to rely on TG Jr as much.

jnormand · 08-12-2017, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Not nearly as often as he would with intermediate/short passes. He's always been a situational, butter fingered field stretcher. Unfortunate for the Saints, hands of stone won't get any better at this point of his career. It's been hit or miss with him over the years. Because of his Ginn's speed, he should have a role in Sean Payton's offense but those "drops" can become drive killers in real game situations.

Hopefully Fuller, Tommy L and Brandon step up so that we won't have to rely on TG Jr as much.

So he'll basically just take the top off the defense and get thrown the ball when he's open? So he'll do what Cooks was supposed to do without *****ing that he didn't get the ball in a huge win.

spkb25 · 08-12-2017, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

So he'll basically just take the top off the defense and get thrown the ball when he's open? So he'll do what Cooks was supposed to do without *****ing that he didn't get the ball in a huge win.

Cooks was supposed to do...???? Cooks did what he was supposed to do.

The Dude · 08-14-2017, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

So he'll basically just take the top off the defense and get thrown the ball when he's open? So he'll do what Cooks was supposed to do without *****ing that he didn't get the ball in a huge win.

Well Cooks actually caught the ball.

hagan714 · 08-15-2017, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd like to see TG Jr fielding a punt and/or kick return in pre season game #2. His stats were good in this phase of the game last season with the Kittens. I truly believe this (special teams play) is where he will help the Saints in 2017.

If he drops passes as he always done in the NFL can you justify the cap hit? No team in the NFL has accepted the cap hit so far.

K Major · 08-15-2017, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Our LB corps as a whole it is too early to tell but a not bad rating works for me

I know it's super early but I was pleased at what I saw from them as a group. Teo' & Klein were often around the ball quickly.

spkb25 · 08-15-2017, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I know it's super early but I was pleased at what I saw from them as a group. Teo' & Klein were often around the ball quickly.

Agreed, I was too

08-11-2017, 02:52 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Questions in players Anthony and Alonzone had their flashes Our LB corps as a whole it is too early to tell but a not bad rating works for me Whoever is at center, specifically snaps The OL as a unit was a mess for the most part. So an incomplete applies Kick return - hope? Defensive ends looked solid enough DBs really as a unit looks to be the issue. give them time to work as unit. Gel Time Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-11-2017, 05:38 PM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: Questions in players Originally Posted by K Major I'd like to see TG Jr fielding a punt and/or kick return in pre season game #2. His stats were good in this phase of the game last season with the Kittens. I truly believe this (special teams play) is where he will help the Saints in 2017. Here's my question. Does Ginn ever muff punts or kicks? If not, how the hell can the guy be a reliable returner but drops passes? I understand that obviously, trajectory is completely different, but catching a punt/kick should be harder than catching a pass...at least it seems so.....

08-11-2017, 09:05 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Questions in players Originally Posted by jnormand Here's my question. Does Ginn ever muff punts or kicks? If not, how the hell can the guy be a reliable returner but drops passes? I understand that obviously, trajectory is completely different, but catching a punt/kick should be harder than catching a pass...at least it seems so..... Not nearly as often as he would with intermediate/short passes. He's always been a situational, butter fingered field stretcher. Unfortunate for the Saints, hands of stone won't get any better at this point of his career. It's been hit or miss with him over the years. Because of his Ginn's speed, he should have a role in Sean Payton's offense but those "drops" can become drive killers in real game situations. Hopefully Fuller, Tommy L and Brandon step up so that we won't have to rely on TG Jr as much.

08-12-2017, 12:04 AM	#5
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: Questions in players Originally Posted by K Major Not nearly as often as he would with intermediate/short passes. He's always been a situational, butter fingered field stretcher. Unfortunate for the Saints, hands of stone won't get any better at this point of his career. It's been hit or miss with him over the years. Because of his Ginn's speed, he should have a role in Sean Payton's offense but those "drops" can become drive killers in real game situations. Hopefully Fuller, Tommy L and Brandon step up so that we won't have to rely on TG Jr as much. So he'll basically just take the top off the defense and get thrown the ball when he's open? So he'll do what Cooks was supposed to do without *****ing that he didn't get the ball in a huge win. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

08-12-2017, 12:43 AM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Questions in players Originally Posted by jnormand So he'll basically just take the top off the defense and get thrown the ball when he's open? So he'll do what Cooks was supposed to do without *****ing that he didn't get the ball in a huge win. Cooks was supposed to do...???? Cooks did what he was supposed to do.

08-11-2017, 03:20 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Questions in players Originally Posted by hagan714 Kick return - hope? I'd like to see TG Jr fielding a punt and/or kick return in pre season game #2. His stats were good in this phase of the game last season with the Kittens. I truly believe this (special teams play) is where he will help the Saints in 2017. hagan714 likes this.

08-14-2017, 01:22 PM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Questions in players Originally Posted by jnormand So he'll basically just take the top off the defense and get thrown the ball when he's open? So he'll do what Cooks was supposed to do without *****ing that he didn't get the ball in a huge win. Well Cooks actually caught the ball.
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08-15-2017, 06:28 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Questions in players Originally Posted by K Major I'd like to see TG Jr fielding a punt and/or kick return in pre season game #2. His stats were good in this phase of the game last season with the Kittens. I truly believe this (special teams play) is where he will help the Saints in 2017. If he drops passes as he always done in the NFL can you justify the cap hit? No team in the NFL has accepted the cap hit so far.

08-15-2017, 08:25 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Questions in players Originally Posted by hagan714 Our LB corps as a whole it is too early to tell but a not bad rating works for me I know it's super early but I was pleased at what I saw from them as a group. Teo' & Klein were often around the ball quickly.

08-15-2017, 08:36 AM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Questions in players Originally Posted by K Major I know it's super early but I was pleased at what I saw from them as a group. Teo' & Klein were often around the ball quickly. Agreed, I was too

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