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Old 08-17-2017, 10:27 AM   #1
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The Late Bloomer - Ted Ginn

The Saints’ newest wide receiver star, Ted Ginn, prepares to bloom in 2017.



July 31st, 2017 by Paul Wegmann

You can never have too much of anything good, or really fast. To paraphrase New Orleans Saints Head Coach Sean Payton at the beginning of the team’s off-season program, the Saints will offer a varied range of wide receivers in 2017: Mike Thomas with his physicality, Ted Ginn with his speed, Willie Snead with his shiftiness and Brandon Coleman with his size and strength. All year long, opposing defensive backs will have to cover the entire gamut of skills and athleticism, meaning there will be a receiver for each and every game matchup and situation. In training camp, Brees immediately opened his yearly exhibition with a few deep throws to Ted Ginn, and the Saints’ all time leading quarterback was effusive in sharing his impressions of him. “I could not be more impressed with Teddy,” Brees said. “I think he is great for that room, just being a veteran guy, he has been around a long time, played a lot of football. I think he has played some of his best football over the past few years too as he has become more veteran. He brings a great element to that room. I think wisdom, leadership and he’s still extremely productive. He certainly doesn’t look like he’s lost a step. He can fly.”

The Saints emerged from the 2016 post-season having traded their steady but scintillating speedster Brandin Cooks for what, via the draft, would ultimately prove to be a much needed offensive lineman, Ryan Ramczyk, and a new potential third down running back, Alvin Kamara, an exchange which becomes seemingly become more prescient as the new season draws near. However, the trade left a sizable hole in the offensive game plan, which Cooks had once occupied — 246 targets, 2,311 yards and 17 touchdowns in the last two seasons, or 123 targets, 1,155 yards and 8.5 touchdowns per year. Presumably filling his spot as second wide receiver would be Willie Snead who could likely pick up a fifth of those targets. Meanwhile, over the last two seasons in a rushing oriented offense captained by an occasionally erratic Cam Newton in Carolina, Ginn averaged 49 catches for 746 yards and 14 total touchdowns. However, now with the Saints, 100 targets, 65 receptions, 800 to 900 yards and 8 touchdowns seems very possible for him.

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How do you have a low catch percentage and still be allowed to field punts?

I guess being only 5'11" 178 lbs is a little small/thin to catch a ball coming at you at 60+ mph and people trying to instantly beat the crap out of you. Plus passes have around 10x the spin on the ball.

Danny Abramowicz once said that to be a great receiver, you have to concentrate on concentrating on catching the ball. This means don't take your eyes or thoughts off the ball no matter how much it was going to hurt. You are going to get the crap beat out of you no matter if you catch or drop it... so you might as well catch it.



Punts are way easier to catch because they are just dropping from the sky like a big rain drop... then you have to run for your life and get the crap beat out of you. And punts have a safety valve in a fair catch.

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One fact to consider is that his QB, Scam Newton, has a lifetime completion percentage around that same 51%. Just because the receiver is targeted doesn't mean he has a real opportunity to make the catch.
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He can drop some balls but hopefully he makes up for it in returns. He starts bobbling on special teams and he's going to be frustrating to watch.
One of those players that you are about ready to start screaming to be benched and then he rips one off and wins a game for you. I think we are not going to be able to not love the guy
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He can drop some balls but hopefully he makes up for it in returns.
Special teams is where I truly believe TG Jr will be invaluable. He still has World Class speed. If he gets behind you, good luck catching him.

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Anybody thinking he is replacing Cooks is gonna be dissapointed. He is only replacing the field stretching element. I just hope he doesn't alligator arm to many crucial passes.
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Anybody thinking he is replacing Cooks is gonna be dissapointed. He is only replacing the field stretching element. I just hope he doesn't alligator arm to many crucial passes.
No the other part will be helped by Kamara, but he is definitely a late bloomer considering he still hasn't bloomed
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He won't be much of a factor. I bet he doesn't get 25 receptions if Snead and Thomas stay upright.
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Anybody thinking he is replacing Cooks is gonna be dissapointed. He is only replacing the field stretching element. I just hope he doesn't alligator arm to many crucial passes.
No. But Ramczyk and Kamara, the two players we picked up with the picks we got for him, should more than make up for the difference.
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