Saints Rookie Marcus Williams Is Flashing Ball-Hawking Skills At Safety

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-19-2017, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Lattimore-obvious lock. Hammy holds up and he's here a while
Ramczyk- same as Lattimore
Williams-keep hearing his name the last week or so practice squad
Kamara- I think he makes roster. may hit PS but I feel like if he does he will get activated

Anzaline-he will play in rotataion
Hendrickson- haven't heard much
Muhammad -he makes practice squad or be with someone else. I don't see any of them not getting a chance in the NFL
I'm feeling pretty good about them.

I think all of them could wind up on PS or will be playing somewhere.
3 years we will know but I have a good feeling. Haven't heard much negative on any of them.
First 4 will be on final roster

Dude,

I'm not sure you are clear on how the practice squad actually works. First and foremost the player has to be cut and clear waivers before they can be placed on the practice squad. Second, once a player is on a practice squad, any of the 32 teams in the league can sign the player from the practice squad to their 53 man roster. And finally there are eligibility rules (which I am quoting because of the notion posted elsewhere that Daniel or Nassib should be placed on the PS):
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_squad

A player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons; he is eligible for a third season only if the team has at least 53 players on its active/inactive list for the duration of that player's employment, or have no prior accrued seasons in the NFL (an accrued season is six or more games on the active roster); or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience on a club's 53-man active roster. If the player was on the active list for fewer than 9 games during their "only accrued season(s)", he maintains his eligibility for the practice squad. Games in which a player is listed as the third-string quarterback (a designation that has been abolished as of 2011) do not count as being on the active list.

I think folks have to disabuse themselves of the notion that really talented NFL rookies (drafted or undrafted) have the opportunity to be stashed on the PS as if they are still the organization's property. Essentially the collection of all 32 league PS serve as a collective resource for the league to develop players who are not quite ready to be on a 53 man roster. However, if a player is talented enough to make any 53 man roster, they will not clear waivers to get to the PS.

So it's laughable to think that Kamara or Williams can be on the Saints PS where there will be enough tape to show that they are capable of being starters in this league. It's even likely that Muhammad and Hendrickson will have enough tape and positive evaluations at the end of the preseason not to be cut.

BTW the Saints somewhat dubious method for redshirting talented draft picks is to put them on IR. It is in fact unclear to me when they've done this exactly how injured the player actually was. But it certainly is a method where you retain the rights of the player without having to carry them on the 53 man roster.

But in short, every pro scouting department in the league is reviewing tape of every other organization. Come September 2nd there will be nearly 1200 players, many of whom are draftees, UDFA, and players still eligible for a PS that will be picked up and placed into one of the 320 available PS slots somewhere. But I'd be shocked if any high level draft picks make it there.

SFIAH

08-19-2017, 07:30 AM	#13
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Saints Rookie Marcus Williams Is Flashing Ball-Hawking Skills At Safety Originally Posted by The Dude Lattimore-obvious lock. Hammy holds up and he's here a while Ramczyk- same as Lattimore Williams-keep hearing his name the last week or so practice squad Kamara- I think he makes roster. may hit PS but I feel like if he does he will get activated Anzaline-he will play in rotataion Hendrickson- haven't heard much Muhammad -he makes practice squad or be with someone else. I don't see any of them not getting a chance in the NFL I'm feeling pretty good about them. I think all of them could wind up on PS or will be playing somewhere. 3 years we will know but I have a good feeling. Haven't heard much negative on any of them. First 4 will be on final roster Dude, I'm not sure you are clear on how the practice squad actually works. First and foremost the player has to be cut and clear waivers before they can be placed on the practice squad. Second, once a player is on a practice squad, any of the 32 teams in the league can sign the player from the practice squad to their 53 man roster. And finally there are eligibility rules (which I am quoting because of the notion posted elsewhere that Daniel or Nassib should be placed on the PS): From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_squad A player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons; he is eligible for a third season only if the team has at least 53 players on its active/inactive list for the duration of that player's employment, or have no prior accrued seasons in the NFL (an accrued season is six or more games on the active roster); or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience on a club's 53-man active roster. If the player was on the active list for fewer than 9 games during their "only accrued season(s)", he maintains his eligibility for the practice squad. Games in which a player is listed as the third-string quarterback (a designation that has been abolished as of 2011) do not count as being on the active list. I think folks have to disabuse themselves of the notion that really talented NFL rookies (drafted or undrafted) have the opportunity to be stashed on the PS as if they are still the organization's property. Essentially the collection of all 32 league PS serve as a collective resource for the league to develop players who are not quite ready to be on a 53 man roster. However, if a player is talented enough to make any 53 man roster, they will not clear waivers to get to the PS. So it's laughable to think that Kamara or Williams can be on the Saints PS where there will be enough tape to show that they are capable of being starters in this league. It's even likely that Muhammad and Hendrickson will have enough tape and positive evaluations at the end of the preseason not to be cut. BTW the Saints somewhat dubious method for redshirting talented draft picks is to put them on IR. It is in fact unclear to me when they've done this exactly how injured the player actually was. But it certainly is a method where you retain the rights of the player without having to carry them on the 53 man roster. But in short, every pro scouting department in the league is reviewing tape of every other organization. Come September 2nd there will be nearly 1200 players, many of whom are draftees, UDFA, and players still eligible for a PS that will be picked up and placed into one of the 320 available PS slots somewhere. But I'd be shocked if any high level draft picks make it there. SFIAH spkb25, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.
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