92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks

K Major · 08-21-2017, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Settle down its a preseason game against the chargers for crying out loud. The secondary didnt look all that impressive to me more like baf qb play but i do generally do watch a different game than alot of you. We will know one way or the other after the first month if they are better

Not really sure what game you were watching last night.

Special teams play greatly improved.
Linebackers are greatly improved.
Kamara already looks the part.
Coaching.
Pressure is coming (Kikaha & Okafor)
Last year we couldn't even sniff a QB in pre season ... last night, 8 sacks.

Good Lord, what game were you watching?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-21-2017, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Not really sure what game you were watching last night.

Special teams play greatly improved.
Linebackers are greatly improved.
Kamara already looks the part.
Coaching.
Pressure is coming (Kikaha & Okafor)
Last year we couldn't even sniff a QB in pre season ... last night, 8 sacks.

Good Lord, what game were you watching?

A preseason game against QBs and linemen that won't be on the field unless the Chargers are really in trouble.

The first quarter of the regular season will be the true test. 3 away games. 2 playoff teams from last year. And the SB champs. Come out of that 4-0 or 3-1 with dominant performances, then we can have a conversation of where the Saints fit in 2017.

What I saw was encouraging. But it's the preseason. Many of the players out there will be on benches, practice squads, or in the stands come September.

If this defense sacks Brady 8 times and holds the Patriots to less than 200 yards passing September 17th, then that's a defensive game worth being excited about.

SFIAH

K Major · 08-21-2017, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

A preseason game against QBs and linemen that won't be on the field unless the Chargers are really in trouble.

The first quarter of the regular season will be the true test. 3 away games. 2 playoff teams from last year. And the SB champs. Come out of that 4-0 or 3-1 with dominant performances, then we can have a conversation of where the Saints fit in 2017.

What I saw was encouraging. But it's the preseason. Many of the players out there will be on benches, practice squads, or in the stands come September.

If this defense sacks Brady 8 times and holds the Patriots to less than 200 yards passing September 17th, then that's a defensive game worth being excited about.

SFIAH

SFIAH,

It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense.

Nothing is easy at this level.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-21-2017, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

SFIAH,

It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense.

Nothing is easy at this level.

As I said, I am encouraged. But this is still all practice and evaluation, often with players on both sides of the ball that won't be there come the regular season. I know that breaking into the NFL is hard. But playing actual games is much harder.

I believe that we as fans wants the Saints to be among the elite teams in the NFL in 2017. But until they actually compete against those elite teams with the personnel and schemes designed to beat them, it's truly an unknown as to how it'll all come out.

To paraphrase another posted in another thread...
Must... Not... Get... Exicited... Yet...

SFIAH

burningmetal · 08-21-2017, 06:44 PM

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burningmetal · 08-21-2017, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

SFIAH,

It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense.

Nothing is easy at this level.

Agreed. I hate the preseason and talk as much crap about it as anyone. I can't stand that they make these teams play 4 games when all of the work that needs to be done is covered in practice and scrimmages. But with that said, preseason is where most of us fans get our only looks at the team before the real season begins, and I think we're all educated enough to recognize talent, and improvement, without jumping to too many conclusions.

The games are meaningless, but the individual performances matter, regardless of competition. All opinions have to be adjusted relative to the context of preseason and I, like you, see no reason to wait till September 17th to decide that there might be reason for optimism. Or pessimism, for that matter. I just happen to be optimistic, based on what I've seen.

08-21-2017, 10:09 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by saintshrimp Settle down its a preseason game against the chargers for crying out loud. The secondary didnt look all that impressive to me more like baf qb play but i do generally do watch a different game than alot of you. We will know one way or the other after the first month if they are better Not really sure what game you were watching last night. Special teams play greatly improved. Linebackers are greatly improved. Kamara already looks the part. Coaching. Pressure is coming (Kikaha & Okafor) Last year we couldn't even sniff a QB in pre season ... last night, 8 sacks. Good Lord, what game were you watching? jnormand, Barry from MS, AsylumGuido and 1 others like this.

08-21-2017, 11:17 AM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by K Major Not really sure what game you were watching last night. Special teams play greatly improved. Linebackers are greatly improved. Kamara already looks the part. Coaching. Pressure is coming (Kikaha & Okafor) Last year we couldn't even sniff a QB in pre season ... last night, 8 sacks. Good Lord, what game were you watching? A preseason game against QBs and linemen that won't be on the field unless the Chargers are really in trouble. The first quarter of the regular season will be the true test. 3 away games. 2 playoff teams from last year. And the SB champs. Come out of that 4-0 or 3-1 with dominant performances, then we can have a conversation of where the Saints fit in 2017. What I saw was encouraging. But it's the preseason. Many of the players out there will be on benches, practice squads, or in the stands come September. If this defense sacks Brady 8 times and holds the Patriots to less than 200 yards passing September 17th, then that's a defensive game worth being excited about. SFIAH saintshrimp likes this.
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08-21-2017, 11:28 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL A preseason game against QBs and linemen that won't be on the field unless the Chargers are really in trouble. The first quarter of the regular season will be the true test. 3 away games. 2 playoff teams from last year. And the SB champs. Come out of that 4-0 or 3-1 with dominant performances, then we can have a conversation of where the Saints fit in 2017. What I saw was encouraging. But it's the preseason. Many of the players out there will be on benches, practice squads, or in the stands come September. If this defense sacks Brady 8 times and holds the Patriots to less than 200 yards passing September 17th, then that's a defensive game worth being excited about. SFIAH SFIAH, It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense. Nothing is easy at this level. burningmetal likes this.

08-21-2017, 11:37 AM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by K Major SFIAH, It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense. Nothing is easy at this level. As I said, I am encouraged. But this is still all practice and evaluation, often with players on both sides of the ball that won't be there come the regular season. I know that breaking into the NFL is hard. But playing actual games is much harder. I believe that we as fans wants the Saints to be among the elite teams in the NFL in 2017. But until they actually compete against those elite teams with the personnel and schemes designed to beat them, it's truly an unknown as to how it'll all come out. To paraphrase another posted in another thread... Must... Not... Get... Exicited... Yet... SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

08-21-2017, 06:44 PM	#5
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08-21-2017, 06:45 PM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by K Major SFIAH, It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense. Nothing is easy at this level. Agreed. I hate the preseason and talk as much crap about it as anyone. I can't stand that they make these teams play 4 games when all of the work that needs to be done is covered in practice and scrimmages. But with that said, preseason is where most of us fans get our only looks at the team before the real season begins, and I think we're all educated enough to recognize talent, and improvement, without jumping to too many conclusions. The games are meaningless, but the individual performances matter, regardless of competition. All opinions have to be adjusted relative to the context of preseason and I, like you, see no reason to wait till September 17th to decide that there might be reason for optimism. Or pessimism, for that matter. I just happen to be optimistic, based on what I've seen.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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