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Not bad work from the defense even if it is preseason.

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Agreed!


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I'll certainly take it. I'd rather play well, even against backups and vanilla plays, than to stink against it.

I can't take too much from this, but I see what appears to be a more active and quicker defense. The offense is void of the vast majority of it's best players, so I have no comment on them, other than we don't have sufficient depth on the offensive line, right now.

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Rivers looking at 8 sacks and wondering how he'll survive 16 games.

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Take QB Kellen's rushing yardage away and we allowed the Chargers RB's only 40 yards on 26 carries. Holy crap!

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Our LBs looked good. Teo, Klein and Anzalone. D-line looked improved. Much more pressure. I like what I see from Okafor btw.

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Err... A whole let better that "no bad"???? You mean an Incredible Effort in shutting down their offense for 4 quarters!!!!

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Yes sir.

I'd add Kikaha to the mix. Did you notice how often he gets held coming off the edge? If he remains healthy, he's trouble for opposing offenses.

I know it's pre season, teams are vanilla yada, yada but those linebackers are for real. You can see they've been coached up. That strip fumble last night by Sterling Moore was something Aaron Glenn did during his playing days.

This defense is going to surprise many for 2017.

Bring it.

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That's what I have been preaching all off-season. This defensive makeup from coaching through personnel is nothing like what we have seen in the past. There is so much more speed and the new coaches are using it. So many in the media, and even around here, are mistakenly pointing to the defenses of the past three years when talking about the 2017 product. As I have pointed out before, the Saints have no position coaches and only two defensive players (Cam Jordan and Rafael Bush) left on the 90 man roster from three years ago. This defense, and for the most part the entire roster, has been rebuilt from the ground up. Usually when a team goes through this intensive of a rebuild they are hard-pressed to win four games, not to mention seven!

This year we are finally able to enjoy the fruits of the rebuild.

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Preach on Guido :p !

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Settle down its a preseason game against the chargers for crying out loud. The secondary didnt look all that impressive to me more like baf qb play but i do generally do watch a different game than alot of you. We will know one way or the other after the first month if they are better

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People are watching match ups. It doesn't take the starting QB being in to recognize when players are doing their jobs at a high level. People should be encouraged. This same kind of defensive performance was turned in against the 49ers in the preseason when we went to the Super Bowl. A trained eye can see the potential.

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Not really sure what game you were watching last night.

Special teams play greatly improved.
Linebackers are greatly improved.
Kamara already looks the part.
Coaching.
Pressure is coming (Kikaha & Okafor)
Last year we couldn't even sniff a QB in pre season ... last night, 8 sacks.

Good Lord, what game were you watching?

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Robertson and Oakefor were balling too. Teo looked great. Hopefully it wasn't just the old team deal. Loved the aggressive blitzing. BTW, who is that running back #33? That guy played great. Drop Lasco and keep that guy. Woof.

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This is what I told my brother last night. He's already trying to figure out how to travel to Minnesota next February. I'm figuring that it'll take until mid November to really understand where the Saints are. The opening stretch of 4 games is brutal with 3 road games, including a trip to London, along with hosting the Patriots.

I believe the 2nd quarter of the season, with matchups against the Lions (which did not go well last year), GB, Chicago, and the Bucs will define the season for the Saints. Records of 4-0 or 3-1 points towards a playoff run. Less than that will make it iffy.

So only time will reveal if the real regular season starting defense is going to be up to the task. Fortunately we don't need too much. Decent against the run, getting off the field on 3rd down, a few takeaways, and frankly just being an average NFL defense everywhere else will be good enough.

SFIAH

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I've wanted to see energy like that for a long while from the defense, obviously it's preseason but the early signs are encouraging.

Pressure upfront was decent, they elimated any gaps when the Chargers tried to run the ball and more importantly, they get 2 or 3 players tackling the ball carrier at once.

Linebackers, Te'o and Klein looked like a good tandem, they swarmed to the ball and hit hard when they got there.
Klein pretty much caused the play that resulted in Okafor's sack, what a hit by the way!

Lattimore got juked badly but I'm not concerned, just needs to keep his feet set when he's squaring up and shuffle rather than turn his body early, can easily be corrected and I don't think he allowed a catch all game? Can anyone confirm?

Kamara, nothing more needs to be said.

Tommy Lee Lewis with an outstanding sideline grab.

All in All, the stats posted earlier about 2015 and 2016 preseason versus this one do not lie, we definitely looked more fundamentally sound.

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Fleener ... I'd really like to see more of him (besides the block of Bosa) in the offense.

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A preseason game against QBs and linemen that won't be on the field unless the Chargers are really in trouble.

The first quarter of the regular season will be the true test. 3 away games. 2 playoff teams from last year. And the SB champs. Come out of that 4-0 or 3-1 with dominant performances, then we can have a conversation of where the Saints fit in 2017.

What I saw was encouraging. But it's the preseason. Many of the players out there will be on benches, practice squads, or in the stands come September.

If this defense sacks Brady 8 times and holds the Patriots to less than 200 yards passing September 17th, then that's a defensive game worth being excited about.

SFIAH

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SFIAH,

It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense.

Nothing is easy at this level.

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As I said, I am encouraged. But this is still all practice and evaluation, often with players on both sides of the ball that won't be there come the regular season. I know that breaking into the NFL is hard. But playing actual games is much harder.

I believe that we as fans wants the Saints to be among the elite teams in the NFL in 2017. But until they actually compete against those elite teams with the personnel and schemes designed to beat them, it's truly an unknown as to how it'll all come out.

To paraphrase another posted in another thread...
Must... Not... Get... Exicited... Yet...

SFIAH

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The D looked good last night. I still have concerns and want stir that kool-aid, yet. The Chargers O-line was missing both T. This game reminded me of Gregg Williams blitzing San Fran in 2011 in preseason, it looked great but when playoff time rolled around San Fran knew exactly what to look for, we all know how that turned out. Glass, spoon, water and Kool-aid is still on the shelf in my house.By game 6 we should have a very good ideal what our D has or hasn't got. I'll take the win, it's been awhile.

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We need to see if the Chagers want to give up Gates.

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I'm surprised no one has picked up Gary Barnidge yet. As for Fleener, I really hope he shows up this year in key moments.

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Man..I don't care who they were playing..that D looked good! I will take it! It has been a good while since we seen that kinda speed from lb's in a Saints uniform. And regardless who was in the lineup from any preseason team we face, playing like the way we did, gives confidence to the players.

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I wondered why we didn't even bring him in when he was released. I figured it was probably because of the amount of a contract he would have wanted.

As far a Fleener goes, terrible terrible terrible. The guy is another free agent failure that we decided deserved a big contract. Can't stand the guy, he is nothing special. I will be happy when we can move from him.

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Barnidge would easily "eclipse" Fleener...

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Booo!!! Lol

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Take QBs out of the equation. It was our DEfensive line and linebackers against their offensive line, tight ends, etc and our guys dominated in the trenches. Something this defense has lacked for years. That's where games are won. If Rivers was in one could argue that maybe he could have gotten rid of the ball quicker or avoided the pressure better and maybe we would have only had 5 or 6 sacks. I'll take 6 sacks any day. I saw what I wanted to see and it is a vast improvement. It was one game and certainly don't drink the cool aid but it was a good sign to see we seemed to have improved in the very areas we needed to.
Next weeks game will be more telling. I want to see how our guys against Watt.
If they can hold their own up front on that side of the ball I'll open the pack of cool aid and pull out a glass. Not saying I'll actually turn on the faucet but I'll be thirsty.

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Maybe, just maybe the QB's were holding on to the ball longer because THE RECEIVERS WERE COVERED....for a change.

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I only got to listen to the first half and couldn't get a good assessment of players in the secondary because they were focusing on the line so much. I'm not discrediting them but it's obvious the line did their job. I was able to watch the second half and Swann has to go.

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Don't worry, Swann has zero chance of not being cut. He just looks terrible.

PJ Williams on the other hand...man o man. That boy gonna be gud. I am excited for him. He tackles well and hits like a truck. I like em!!

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On that pick 6 that Nassib threw ... after falling to the ground, TLL was the last person to get back up, chase down the defender from a full 95 yard sprint (almost got there). All hustle, never give up attitude.

The little things that coaches will see on tape. TLL is a gamer. I think his roster spot is secure.

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Agreed. I hate the preseason and talk as much crap about it as anyone. I can't stand that they make these teams play 4 games when all of the work that needs to be done is covered in practice and scrimmages. But with that said, preseason is where most of us fans get our only looks at the team before the real season begins, and I think we're all educated enough to recognize talent, and improvement, without jumping to too many conclusions.

The games are meaningless, but the individual performances matter, regardless of competition. All opinions have to be adjusted relative to the context of preseason and I, like you, see no reason to wait till September 17th to decide that there might be reason for optimism. Or pessimism, for that matter. I just happen to be optimistic, based on what I've seen.

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great showing against one of the worse OL in the NFL and a team that might have worse QB depth than we do, well maybe not.

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Can't wait until Wednesday when I can finally watch it!

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I watched again today because I was in and out during the game. I was in and out again today, so I'll watch again Wednesday, but I felt the same - wanted to check to see if I was just a little too giddy.

I know it was the Chargers, but like I said in another thread, jeesh our defense looked like a real defense...for a change...wouldn't have mattered to me if we were playing the NSU Demons, I just enjoyed watching us play with a purpose!