Chase Daniel...
 

I think I am over this guy. I see nothing to get excited about.

Another team let him bounce on his own over to us... they were not to excited about him either.

Hand the back up clip board to Nassib and we worry about the position another year.

Someone talk me into Chase because I am just not feeling it.

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It is just like most teams not named the Patriots. If the starter is out for any period of time, we are done. Look at San Diego, Clemens looked terrible. Baltimore, Mallet is the backup, terrible. I can go on but you get the point.

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Definitely looked off last night and was holding the ball way too long and not letting it fly. Although, Nassib didn't look that much better.

I'm even more surprised that Grayson didn't see any time whatsoever. Next week will be telling for sure and if Daniel and Nassib get the majority of the time it'll be safe to say they're letting GG go at the 53 man cut down.

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I want McCown back, I wasn't too happy when he was released. If Dallas cuts McCown, I would be in favor of all 3 current backups being released and McCown re-signed.

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he stinks, really stinks.

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Yes but in Clemens defense that O-line is horrible. I think they didn't start Rivers to save his life for one more week.

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Hard to say. The game plan is designed around Brees. Chase has more scramble ability and probably a stronger arm. Pats changed their games plans last year to account for no Brady. It worked.

Give Chase the starters and a game plan he is comfortable with and I bet he does a fine job.

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I agree he didn't look like a starting NFL QB.

Good thing thats not we want him for.

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should have kept Luke

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I don't see it 'designed around Brees' at all. It is really designed around the running game. Bree's just is suited to running the show. That offense is best with a well designed running game. We been damn good but not as goog as it was in 2009. Any half way decent accurate passer can look good in our Offense. That is why Chase came back he realized **** I better go to NO I can't make it anywhere else.

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He's also chubby. Have to design it to work with chubbies.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...7015?s=594x594

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...0844?s=594x594

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Daniel looked like a competent backup when he was here before. I thought Andy Reid was supposed to be a QB guru, yet it appears he just about ruined Chase. Hopefully he gets back into the swing of things. I know everyone likes to repeat the same line "if Drew goes down, we're screwed anyway", but suppose he just misses a game or two, for whatever reason. Wouldn't you like to see a guy who won't kill you out there?

If our defense is truly improved, then there's no reason to surrender any game because your backup is in the game. Anybody remember the 2000 season? We had a starting QB who, himself, was only decent (Jeff Blake), and then he went down and was replaced by Aaron Brooks. I seem to remember making the playoffs and winning our first ever playoff game. Just because your backup might not be a long term answer doesn't mean that you have to settle for a train wreck.

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Sure wish we had drafted Chad Kelley to sit behind Brees!!

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It's was recently reported that Denver will only carry two QBs on their roster, so perhaps there could be an opportunity.

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He looked disinterested to me. He's gotten paid. It's a preseason game. He knows he's the backup. I personally believe the Saints will have a fighters chance with him at QB if Brees goes down. That's all you can hope for. Especially if the defense continues to shine.

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Major character issues & not a leader of men. He'll quit on you, just wait and see.

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Yes but when Brooks came in he was exciting to watch. Chase does nothing. I think Nassib makes a better back up if you don't want to surrender a game. His arm is stronger and he is more sharp. If your back up is getting better or pushing for the starters spot I think you need to cut bait and move on at some point just like I have from Greyson.

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Recent surgury has slowed him down but the kids a gamer. Would be nice to get him.

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I don't get not being a leader part, but has had issues off the field early in college but nothing more. I don't think he quits either.

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When has Chase ever done anything? He has 1 career TD
scratched my head then and now

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OMG............we're screwed!!!

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I want to see grayson start with the ones. One last shot. Could do it well.

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IIRC, Coach Payton said "he would keep three if he felt the third one was earned". After three seasons, I still don't see the poise and pocket presence from GG. Takes way too long to make a decision....ultimately a sack. Even while he knew he is under duress, he's not making the quick read.

I don't think he sticks this year.

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Never though i'd say it, but we should have kept LUKE.

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Really! He could've at least opened his eyes for the photograph!

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Not at all. It's just up to the D this year and they can do it!

Championship!!!

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I didn't suggest that Chase would be a good backup at this point. Though Nassib hasn't shown me anything either, frankly. I was saying that he used to be a good backup, but it looks like Andy Reid just about ruined him in his time with the Chiefs.

My point about the 2000 season was toward the crowd who says "who cares about the backup, because we're screwed if Drew goes down". I like to remind those people that all is not lost if you are diligent enough as a franchise to develop a decent enough backup, and your defense is good enough to keep you in it.

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Many less talented QB's have won in the playoffs and the SB. It can be done so I don't like the defeatism no Brees attitude. Brooks did it and he was surrounded with much much less talent. Willie Jackson lol! He would not even make this team.

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I don't like it either. Every time we have a conversation about the backup around here, there is always a group who shows and says we're stupid for talking about something that "doesn't matter". But those same people will rail on every little thing that happens in preseason.

There's no making sense of things, at times.

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McGowin

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I would argue, compared to today's Saints o-line, Brooks had a superb o-line back then, arguably the best o-line in Saints history: Roaf, Neole, Fontent, Williams, Turley. All of them 16 game starting veterans. The Saints were ranked #8 in rushing in 2000.

I would also argue, the Saints had a proven defense back then, ranked #8 in 2000.

So Brooks had a lot to support around him.

You give Brees that team today, the Saints win 3 SB's back to back to back.

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Should have never given Brooks the keys. Blake was what got us there. I'm still upset about that but meh...he did get red hot from time to time but not nearly enough to be a starter. We can win with Chase but the game plan has to change. Deeper passes and give him some runs.

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AT the end of the day we are screwed because Chase is our backup. Never been a fan of his. There is a kid in Atlanta who looks pretty good, Simms. But we need a better backup than we have on the roster

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Compared to today's offensive line, yes, Brooks had a better one. Compared to O-lines Drew had during a 3 or 4 year run, beginning in '08, when he had Jahri Evans, Carl Nicks, Jonathan Goodwin and Jon Stinchcomb; Drew's line was at least as good, if not better than what Brooks had. Not as strong at tackle, but good enough, and the interior line Drew had was ridiculously good.

But this isn't a comparison of Drew to Aaron Brooks. Clearly Drew is far better, and it isn't a discussion. But you mentioned Drew would have won back to back to back Super Bowls if he had Aaron's O-line and defense... Obviously in order for a team to have a chance without really good QB play, they must have a strong O-line and defense, and that's the point. Heck, we've seen just how good this team is WITH an elite QB, but no defense, haven't we? In order to stay at least competitive without your starter, you MUST have a good defense and a backup QB who is competent enough. But a lot of people would have you believe that without Drew there is no hope, period. People are so used to having Drew that they forgot that not every winning team has had an elite QB.

Though I am not comparing Drew to Aaron, as I said before, I would still like to point this out: If Drew would have won three Super Bowls in a row (as you said) with what Brooks had, then why didn't we win it in 2010, when we had a top ten defense and still had that strong offensive line? That team was better than any of Aaron's teams. It wasn't as good as the '09 or '11 teams, for sure, due to some injuries, but it still stacked up better than what Brooks had. I don't miss Aaron as our starter, but let's cool the hyperbole just a bit.

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Wasn't '10 our year without a running back?

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We went through a lot of running backs that year, yeah. But we still had that offensive line and were able to run well enough, most of the time. In keeping with the theme of the 2000 season, we lost Ricky Williams for the last 6 games of the regular season that year, and STILL made it with a backup QB. We also won that first playoff game without him.

No excuses for the 2010 team to go in and lose to a 7-9 team in the first round.

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"Not as strong at tackle"? Not even close. And Fontenot was a better center than Goodwin. Drew had better guards, but that is not a wash. That o-line was the best o-line in Saints history. If you want to debate o-lines, that's another thread.

Ok? Who's comparing them?

At this point, I have no idea what your actual point is, but if all of that was meant as a counterpoint to my statement that Drew would've won more SB's had he had that team, are you going to debate that a Drew Brees with an 8th ranked defense would not have taken the Saints to multiple SB's?

I know hope is the last thing to die, but if Drew goes down, people are going to quickly find out how not-so-good many players are in offense.

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OMG I thought we outlawed the A-word.

There was a time every thread on this site woud be hijacked by Aaron Brooks. lol.

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Really have an issue here. Boy I wish I could be a back up making that kind of money but realistically other than McCown we never have had a good back up QB and one day it is going to bite us in the ass. I say pick up one that is cut for sure. Others may exit stage right.