New Orleans Saints Film Study: OT Ryan Ramczyk 2016/Preseason2017

The Dude · 08-23-2017, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

What if Ram is better?

That being said, if he is better than Ramczyk it will be fairly early in the season still. Do we keep him for rotation or do we trade him for an unexpected position of need for an equally talented player? Assuming it's before the deadline.

hagan714 · 08-23-2017, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I wonder what they (coaches) do with Ram after Armstead returns? Just forward thinking I suppose ... .

Do what they originally planned to ... a year of back up and spot duty to let the one year wonder get coached up.

spkb25 · 08-23-2017, 07:39 AM

Armistead's injuries has been his main problem lately. The guy was a straight up stud before that. Strief is not getting any younger so unless we can replace Armistead with someone good I think we keep both and one moves to right tackle. Now we are pretty set at tackle.

This season Armistead is expected to be out for nearly the entire season, isn't he?In that case we should not replace Ram because I think you have close to a full season of these guys playing together.

AsylumGuido · 08-23-2017, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

B.S. if Armstead comes back healthy there is no way they should leave Ramczyk in. Why would you leave a rookie in "just because" and keep one of the top tackles on the bench? You put the best player on the field. Period.
If their on the field performance is equal then fine but the likelihood of that happening Ramis first year is nill.
That would be like shaving with a safety razor even though you know a straight razor is better just so it won't get dull because you don't know how to hone it.

You missed my point. I said I was hoping that Ramczyk was playing so good that you couldn't take him out. I never said anything about "just because". If Ramczyk is performing at a high level and the line is working well together as a unit it would be foolish to sit him and insert Armstead. Did I say that would definitely be the case? No. I said "hopefully". That would be a great situation to have.

AsylumGuido · 08-23-2017, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

What if Ram is better?

You comprehended what I was saying.

AsylumGuido · 08-23-2017, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That being said, if he is better than Ramczyk it will be fairly early in the season still. Do we keep him for rotation or do we trade him for an unexpected position of need for an equally talented player? Assuming it's before the deadline.

Trade partners are difficult to find during the season given you are working within cap restraints.

AsylumGuido · 08-23-2017, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Armistead's injuries has been his main problem lately. The guy was a straight up stud before that. Strief is not getting any younger so unless we can replace Armistead with someone good I think we keep both and one moves to right tackle. Now we are pretty set at tackle.

This season Armistead is expected to be out for nearly the entire season, isn't he?In that case we should not replace Ram because I think you have close to a full season of these guys playing together.

I read yesterday that he is ahead of schedule. A labrum repair is not that difficult to return from since it doesn't have anything to do with supportive tissues. Given when he had the surgery he could be ready during the first quarter of the season, but he probably goes on the PUP and returns after game six.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: New Orleans Saints Film Study: OT Ryan Ramczyk 2016/Preseason2017 Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| What if Ram is better? That being said, if he is better than Ramczyk it will be fairly early in the season still. Do we keep him for rotation or do we trade him for an unexpected position of need for an equally talented player? Assuming it's before the deadline.
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08-23-2017, 07:25 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints Film Study: OT Ryan Ramczyk 2016/Preseason2017 Originally Posted by K Major I wonder what they (coaches) do with Ram after Armstead returns? Just forward thinking I suppose ... . Do what they originally planned to ... a year of back up and spot duty to let the one year wonder get coached up.

08-23-2017, 07:39 AM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: New Orleans Saints Film Study: OT Ryan Ramczyk 2016/Preseason2017 Armistead's injuries has been his main problem lately. The guy was a straight up stud before that. Strief is not getting any younger so unless we can replace Armistead with someone good I think we keep both and one moves to right tackle. Now we are pretty set at tackle. This season Armistead is expected to be out for nearly the entire season, isn't he?In that case we should not replace Ram because I think you have close to a full season of these guys playing together.

08-23-2017, 08:19 AM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: New Orleans Saints Film Study: OT Ryan Ramczyk 2016/Preseason2017 Originally Posted by The Dude B.S. if Armstead comes back healthy there is no way they should leave Ramczyk in. Why would you leave a rookie in "just because" and keep one of the top tackles on the bench? You put the best player on the field. Period. If their on the field performance is equal then fine but the likelihood of that happening Ramis first year is nill. That would be like shaving with a safety razor even though you know a straight razor is better just so it won't get dull because you don't know how to hone it. You missed my point. I said I was hoping that Ramczyk was playing so good that you couldn't take him out. I never said anything about "just because". If Ramczyk is performing at a high level and the line is working well together as a unit it would be foolish to sit him and insert Armstead. Did I say that would definitely be the case? No. I said "hopefully". That would be a great situation to have.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: New Orleans Saints Film Study: OT Ryan Ramczyk 2016/Preseason2017 Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| What if Ram is better? You comprehended what I was saying.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: New Orleans Saints Film Study: OT Ryan Ramczyk 2016/Preseason2017 Originally Posted by The Dude That being said, if he is better than Ramczyk it will be fairly early in the season still. Do we keep him for rotation or do we trade him for an unexpected position of need for an equally talented player? Assuming it's before the deadline. Trade partners are difficult to find during the season given you are working within cap restraints.

08-23-2017, 08:26 AM	#17
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: New Orleans Saints Film Study: OT Ryan Ramczyk 2016/Preseason2017 Originally Posted by spkb25 Armistead's injuries has been his main problem lately. The guy was a straight up stud before that. Strief is not getting any younger so unless we can replace Armistead with someone good I think we keep both and one moves to right tackle. Now we are pretty set at tackle. This season Armistead is expected to be out for nearly the entire season, isn't he?In that case we should not replace Ram because I think you have close to a full season of these guys playing together. I read yesterday that he is ahead of schedule. A labrum repair is not that difficult to return from since it doesn't have anything to do with supportive tissues. Given when he had the surgery he could be ready during the first quarter of the season, but he probably goes on the PUP and returns after game six.

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