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I don't think anyone in their right mind would actually believe that or be OK with it.

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I think we keep TL Lewis and Bighill. You can't let guys like that of your team. At this point I'd rather Bighill than Kikaha.

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Bighill stats vs Texans ...

5 unassisted tackles
1 tackle for a loss
Sack
QB hit

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If they're on your PS you will have the choice and opportunity to make them active before another team scoop them up

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Um, nope. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_squad:

There's no right of first refusal. Other than the "immediate future" restriction, the only requirement is that a PS player is signed to a 53 man squad. Practice squad players are street free agents that get the opportunity to be paid and to practice with an actual NFL organization. Nothing more.

SFIAH

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Kikaha has looked great so far.

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I think the point is that generally, once players are on a team's PS, they stand a better chance being activated with that team than another team signing them DIRECTLY to their 53 man roster during the season with zero familiarity with that team or their playbook. (the player technically could walk away from our PS with the risk of NOT being signed to another team's PS, when they'd be making good money in the meantime)

Secondly, in regards to pay, there's no rule that you have to pay a PS player less. A team can pay them whatever they want or whatever they think they're worth if they want to incentivize them to stick around.

Either way, of the 3, I'd probably have to keep Lewis, just due to his ability to score. But that's not an easy choice, I'd say they all make it!

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And they can choose to sign with any team they want. Just because a team offers then a PS spot, they don't have to take it. They can decide to sign with the Saints even though another team may offer more, IIRC.

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Of course. But OTOH it's equally unlikely that a PS player on any squad will pass up the opportunity to sign on a 53 man roster and have the possibility of playing in real games for real money as opposed to remaining on a PS.

I was just trying to clarify that PS players are free agents, and have all the options that free agents have. As such even if they clear waivers and are placed on a PS, then any team can still sign them to a 53 man roster.

SFIAH

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if you have them on your practice squad you can make them active on your roster so another team can't scoop them up. The downfall and risk is that you must drop someone off your active roster to make room. Which means the player you waive or cut to make room will be able to sign with any other team if they make it through the waiver wire and if they don't be picked up you're still liable for the contract against your cap.


In order to make the PS the player will be waived and if no team pick them up then the saints can sign to PS. Players I can't see making it through waivers are Victor & Muhammad

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But that is true for all 320 players on all PS for all teams. The point I continue to push is that the Saints have no more rights to their PS players than any other team. All 32 PS are a league resource. The only advantage you have with your 10 PS players is that you see them everyday and they practice with your organization. But all 32 teams have tape on all players in training camp. That includes all 320 PS players and the nearly 800 other street free agents that'll be released at the end of the week. It the pro scouting department's job to have targeted players in each position that can be signed if the situation arises.
Exactly. But of course the upside is that resigning players after week one means that their contract isn't guaranteed for the year. So no team is going to be claiming iffy players off waivers and putting them on their 53 this weekend unless they have an actual need to fill.
Right on the mark on both accounts. So you have to start asking questions about their competition: Loewen and Lasko. Would either of them clear waivers?

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That 12" vert though lol.

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Bighill is a good problem going forward. Only proven real-time against the scrubs from 2 pedestrian offenses so far. May not match up well with our division's 1's but has the smarts & just makes plays. Personally I'd keep Lil Bigman and slice from another position. He ain't gonna get past waivers & he'll get poached from the PS more than likely.

TLL is a lock. We're not as deep at WR as in previous years. He has proven in the regular season that he can hang as a rookie last year (3 for 43 yds vs ATL & 2 for 24 yds vs CAR). Keeper. He'll be a good one in our offense in the future.

Lasco...ehh...keep Victor over him. Run with A.P./M.I./Kamara/Victor/Kuhn at RB. I wouldn't be shocked if Edmunds slipped in over Victor though. One or the other is not gonna clear waivers or go to PS where they'll get poached.

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Victor sort of reminds me of Maurice-Jones Drew. Short, stocky and carries a lot of punch.

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Stature-wise yes. But MJJ had great short quickness & straight-line speed (4.39 / 40). Victor has the vision & cutting ability, just doesn't have the burst MJJ had. Hope he makes it, but Edmunds has potential, too. Good size 6' 1" 223 & speed 4.48 / 40. Looks like he can catch the ball too. IDK...2 good backs so far. Rooting for both.

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if t. lew. had sneads gekko cups he would be a lock, i'm just not sold on his hands, or mental lapses on drops which is not many though, but payton remembers every single one u do drop so?? parcels sent t lew to us and that still in my opinion is why he hangs around, i called out way before the draft that 2 guys will not make the 53 this season and t. lew is 1 and the other was marc. murphy which has been gone. but now with al the hype i'm wondering. its just amazing that the t. lew is still in one piece. he knows how to ball up.

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The Air Up There, a Bighill story.

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Is Victor the future at FB?

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Agreed. But that knee. Kind of an Ellerbe situation. If he stays healthy he will be great. Bighill doesn't have that issue to contend with.

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That's not a bad idea. He could learn from the best with Kuhn. He don't have break-away speed but he's good in small spaces. He can handle LBs & Safeties in the blocking schemes...opens the playbook bc of his ballhandling abilities. They are gonna need to find a way to keep him & Edmunds away from other teams. I just think both have "it" for this offense.

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I'm pretty sure Victor is a RB, not a FB.

If we need a FB, we sign a FB.

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Just by chance this showed up in my Youtube top suggestions. Dang it now I really like the guy.

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IDK..as the league evolves even more pass-oriented, I believe the fullback position can evolve into quicker, smaller version of itself. Hydrid LBs. Hybrid Safeties. Smaller, quicker versions of the positions. Pass Rush specialists are smaller & quicker DEs lining up outside the OT. RBs have to lay the wood against blitzing LBs & DBs in pass protection. Don't see why laying the wood against the same personnel going downhill in run blocking is impossible to learn in 1-2 seasons.

Maybe I'm smoking crack, but the NFL has changed since Alstott, Neal & Mack Strong. Back in the day I don't remember many RBs lining up at WR & running a wideout's route tree...seems I see it every game now. I don't think its too farfetched for the FB position to change. I believe Victor could do it if the coaching staff saw fit.

BTW...this thread went sideways.

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I don't think he has the size. Regardless of how the NFL evolves, why even have a fullback if not to block? Otherwise you're just running a two running back set.

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2 back set is what it would be except 1 back could carry out the role of the FB in both I & split formations. Plus I've seen CAR's RBs (other than Tolbert) run block for Douche Nozzle.

Speaking of Tolbert, 5'9" 246 lbs 4.75 40 yd out of college...Victor 5'7" 227 lbs 4.70 40 yd. 2 inches shorter & 20 lbs lighter. And Tolbert ran HB against us and a few others over the years. If anything, Victor is more like Tolbert than anyone I can think of. Tolbert was quick in short spaces & definitely plowed folks. Long term, post-Brees with a Russell Wilson-type QB would be in Victor's wheelhouse...unless Drew plays til he's 50.

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Twenty extra pounds is considerable in a running back when it comes to making bruises on the other team's defense.