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What is going on with his situation? Thought he was a lock WR2. Ginn looked good but that one deep drop. Going to hurt us now and then no way around it.

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Like in past years, will have 3 starting WRs.

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MT is going to get the bulk of it, not by much but Snead, not sure how he is going to get more targets since he lacks the speed of Ginn. Ginn's speed creates a lot more opportunities even with the drops. End around, dumps off the line....Snead, not really his game.

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Ginn is going to be frustrating to watch. He's going to drop a lot of critical passes but he will also change a game or two on return or in a clutch pass situation. I think we will see more good than bad.
Snead will be fine. He's playing for a contract. We will see what he's really all about this year.

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Snead should still be a #2 lock. I can't wait until the offense reaches the regular season and truly opens the playbook.

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Well I really wonder if Snead isn't a little pissed off right now. He's played well the last two years and they didn't really reward him much by having him sign that tender. Oh well.

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I hope he plays a little pissed off this year and looks to a BIG reward next season.

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I thought Ginn looked pretty good as well. He's truly a field stretcher. You can see how the Texans D react when he's out there (see the long run on the reverse). Snead will always be a possession guy. Coach Payton will create mismatches ... press coverage, look for Ginn Jr on the 9 route. If it's zone expect a pass thrown to Snead down the seam (he's money here).

Endless possibilities.

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Sneed also lacked Cooks' speed but still got open. It was the same with Lance Moore. Ginn's speed will be used to spread the secondary, opening things up for Thomas, Sneed, Coleman, Kamara and friends.

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Snead, Coleman, Ginn, Fuller, Lampman all contract year. No wonder why they are all trying to play lights out. Granted, Ginn is a 1 year deal but still, he is playing for another one of those. I think Snead will emerge as the #2 once things get going. Too much chemistry with Brees.

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Snead was never a lock to be a WR 2. His role is in the slot and Thomas is the redzone's number one target; Ginn is the deep threat. Both have the best chance to get TDs. Snead has less unless he gets faster. He's just not looked at in the redzone unless Thomas is accounted for by defenses(Denver game last year).

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He has more on the line than anyone else so I could see him throwing caution to the wind to make insane grabs. This is his shot to get a deal all or nothing. Jerry Rice was slow as dirt. It can be done.

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Depends on how you define your #2. Snead's not a redzone target like Thomas or a threat to score from anywhere on the field like Cooks was but he's a great possession receiver. He's the go to guy when you need a first down. Think of a Julian Edleman type role.

He had a 69% catch percentage, which is outstanding.

Cooks got a first down 38% of the times he was targeted. By comparison Snead got a first down 49% of the times he was targeted.

Cooks got targeted 13 more times than Snead but Snead made 6 more first downs.

If you look at all Snead's stats for last season, he had great numbers for a #2 and he was the third option. Most teams would've loved to get those numbers from their #2 receiver.

Touchdowns get all the glory but you also gotta have someone you can count on to move the chains.

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Snead is a possession receiver like Lance Moore. He has a role and almost had 1000 yards last year. I like him a lot!:p

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Regarding 's Ginn dropped passes, remember that Devery Henderson had the same reputation for dropping passes until Curtis Johnson came along. I believe Johnson is going to do the same for Ginn this year.

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This is just not true. Maybe not the quickest guy, but certainly Rice had solid top end speed. In his prime he was the NFLs premier deep threat and I never remember him getting caught from behind.

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Ginn will break Curtis Johnson, lol joking of course...maybe

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Precisely.

I remember reading a book by Bill Walsh (Building a Champion). He spoke of how in his scouting (MS Valley State) of Jerry, what separated him from most was his stride and second gear. He had never seen that type of gear in all of his days of scouting receivers . In the open field his long stride gave him functional speed to distant himself from defenders. At the same exact starting point, you never saw Rice get caught from behind. Not once.

He was far from slow.

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Snead is a producer. Slot receivers take in the head. Literally. It's shi11y what they are doing to him. Bad for morale, too. I bet the locker room loves Willy.

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I was ready to send Henderson packing - Curtis Johnson must be all he is said to be. Somebody sure did fix Devery.

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I think Steve Largent is a better example for you. HoF receiver without too much speed.

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I don't know how i feel about Ginn. I guess it wait and see. I know i think Willie Snead is GREAT!!

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Comparing Cooks incompletions to Snead's is comparing apples to oranges.

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I didn't compare incompletions. I compared 1st down %. I was showing that Snead has been an outstanding possession receiver when it comes to getting first downs and extending drives. My point being, Snead is an excellent #2 receiver. His stats as the third option were better that most team's second option.

Both receivers have good completion percentages. Cooks 66.6%, Snead 69.4% last season.

I'm curious though, why would you say it's comparing apples to oranges?

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Because Cooks was not a possession receiver and many of us thought he would be good in the slot over Colston in 2015. The saints just would not use him in that manner. I'm not sure, was Snead on the field with Colston in 2015 in plays or did they rotate?

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I'd consider Snead better than Ginn, as Snead can, you know, actually receive the pass...

Ginn reminds of Featherstone, Texas State...

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Cooks was not good for much. Really could not use him for anything else but stretching the field for some reason. I bet he doesn't even sniff 1K yards this year.

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They got several other WR's. Edelman hardly ever scored. Cooks is tapped for about 700 yards and almost no TDs with Gronk.

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