Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract

AsylumGuido · 08-30-2017, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Click bait. Brees will simply do another contract just like this one at a higher annual salary.

With the cap currently at $167 million this year and likely to be $175 million or more come next year, a cap hit north of $20 million really isn't that big a deal.

For some reason none of the national media wants to believe that Brees wants to retire a Saint. He's had the opportunity to go for the gold. Instead he worked out a fair deal that got him paid and still left the team enough flexibility to build what's looking like a winning roster around him.

Next time up isn't the first, second, or even third rodeo for Brees.

So like I said... Click bait.

SFIAH

I have seen early estimates putting the 2018 cap over the $180 million level.

|Mitch| · 08-30-2017, 10:03 AM

I don't see how Drew Brees would be allowed to walk away without a clear plan B waiting...

AsylumGuido · 08-30-2017, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I don't see how Drew Brees would be allowed to walk away without a clear plan B waiting...

He wouldn't be. Plus, he has stated on numerous occasions that 1) he wants to play one year at a time from here on out, 2) he plans to play well into his forties, and 3) he doesn't plan to play anywhere but New Orleans.

QBREES9 · 08-30-2017, 10:59 AM

Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money.

AsylumGuido · 08-30-2017, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money.

He's a starting NFL QB. It's as simple as that. In two years that will be less than average for the position.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-30-2017, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He's a pretty good franchise starting NFL QB. It's as simple as that. In two years that will be less than average for the position.

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Guido is right on target. There are about 12-15 players that can effectively play the NFL QB position. With increasing salary caps and required spending minimums, it's a no brainer to spend the money when an organization has one of the 12. Those that don't keep drafting hoping to find one. And when they get one (Winston and Mariotta for example), when their turn comes up, they'll get the money too.

Only Washington has avoided making the committment. But they are being dumb. They could have locked Cousins up at $24 million/year for a while. But they've paid him $45 million for two years, and will have to pay him $35 million next year to franchise him again. And he'll still get to walk and get a $30 million average from Washington or someone else afterwards.

That's why the contracts are so huge. There are 15-20 teams out there that would love to make a free agent splash by bringing in a top level starting QB.

Cleveland has started nearly 20 different QBs since Stafford was drafted into the league. When you have a franchise QB, do whatever it takes to keep him.

SFIAH

K Major · 08-30-2017, 12:22 PM

Life is good for Kirk Cousins.

QBREES9 · 08-30-2017, 12:23 PM

Has he won anything. Like a Super Bowl. This craziness they're just driving up the price up to resign a great QB like Drew. I'm sorry i just don't see it in Stafford.

iceshack149 · 08-30-2017, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I have seen early estimates putting the 2018 cap over the $180 million level.

I'm not so sure that estimate is believable.
The NFL is trending downwards. With Goodell trying to be the all-powerful commissioner, concussions and lawsuits, and now players disrespecting the USA's flag and national anthem, the league is about to hit it's ceiling.
For me, when Goodell killed the Saints with the "Bounty" allegations my interest in the NFL waned severely.

Not only that, it's economics 101. What goes up most go down.

Utah_Saint · 08-30-2017, 12:54 PM

Looks like Drew's in for a raise next season. As long as it's not a long term deal, the Saints are still getting a great deal.

08-30-2017, 10:00 AM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Click bait. Brees will simply do another contract just like this one at a higher annual salary. With the cap currently at $167 million this year and likely to be $175 million or more come next year, a cap hit north of $20 million really isn't that big a deal. For some reason none of the national media wants to believe that Brees wants to retire a Saint. He's had the opportunity to go for the gold. Instead he worked out a fair deal that got him paid and still left the team enough flexibility to build what's looking like a winning roster around him. Next time up isn't the first, second, or even third rodeo for Brees. So like I said... Click bait. SFIAH I have seen early estimates putting the 2018 cap over the $180 million level.

08-30-2017, 10:03 AM	#12
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract I don't see how Drew Brees would be allowed to walk away without a clear plan B waiting... AsylumGuido likes this.

08-30-2017, 10:08 AM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I don't see how Drew Brees would be allowed to walk away without a clear plan B waiting... He wouldn't be. Plus, he has stated on numerous occasions that 1) he wants to play one year at a time from here on out, 2) he plans to play well into his forties, and 3) he doesn't plan to play anywhere but New Orleans. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money. jnormand likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Originally Posted by QBREES9 Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money. He's a starting NFL QB. It's as simple as that. In two years that will be less than average for the position.

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Originally Posted by QBREES9 Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He's a pretty good franchise starting NFL QB. It's as simple as that. In two years that will be less than average for the position. FIFY Guido is right on target. There are about 12-15 players that can effectively play the NFL QB position. With increasing salary caps and required spending minimums, it's a no brainer to spend the money when an organization has one of the 12. Those that don't keep drafting hoping to find one. And when they get one (Winston and Mariotta for example), when their turn comes up, they'll get the money too. Only Washington has avoided making the committment. But they are being dumb. They could have locked Cousins up at $24 million/year for a while. But they've paid him $45 million for two years, and will have to pay him $35 million next year to franchise him again. And he'll still get to walk and get a $30 million average from Washington or someone else afterwards. That's why the contracts are so huge. There are 15-20 teams out there that would love to make a free agent splash by bringing in a top level starting QB. Cleveland has started nearly 20 different QBs since Stafford was drafted into the league. When you have a franchise QB, do whatever it takes to keep him. SFIAH Rugby Saint II likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Life is good for Kirk Cousins.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Has he won anything. Like a Super Bowl. This craziness they're just driving up the price up to resign a great QB like Drew. I'm sorry i just don't see it in Stafford.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I have seen early estimates putting the 2018 cap over the $180 million level. I'm not so sure that estimate is believable. The NFL is trending downwards. With Goodell trying to be the all-powerful commissioner, concussions and lawsuits, and now players disrespecting the USA's flag and national anthem, the league is about to hit it's ceiling. For me, when Goodell killed the Saints with the "Bounty" allegations my interest in the NFL waned severely. Not only that, it's economics 101. What goes up most go down.

08-30-2017, 12:54 PM	#20
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Looks like Drew's in for a raise next season. As long as it's not a long term deal, the Saints are still getting a great deal.