Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract

The Dude · 08-30-2017, 04:29 AM

Another losing season and he's gone. I'd put money on it.

AsylumGuido · 08-30-2017, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Another losing season and he's gone. I'd put money on it.

I really don't expect another losing season, but if it does happen he's only gone if he retires and I don't see that happening because he wants all of the passing records. I'll take your money ($50?) and say that he doesn't go to another team. As easy as that money would be, I hope we do not get a chance to see for several more years to come.

MatthewT · 08-30-2017, 04:40 AM

The next 1 to 2 year contract Brees signs will probably be in the neighborhood of 28-30 mil per year, with all of it guaranteed.

neugey · 08-30-2017, 06:51 AM

Usually when a player gets this kind of money, I roll my eyes. But Stafford has carried the Lions on his back for a few years now, he's been impressive.

QBREES9 · 08-30-2017, 09:59 AM

Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money.

AsylumGuido · 08-30-2017, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money.

He's a starting NFL QB. It's as simple as that. In two years that will be less than average for the position.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-30-2017, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He's a pretty good franchise starting NFL QB. It's as simple as that. In two years that will be less than average for the position.

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Guido is right on target. There are about 12-15 players that can effectively play the NFL QB position. With increasing salary caps and required spending minimums, it's a no brainer to spend the money when an organization has one of the 12. Those that don't keep drafting hoping to find one. And when they get one (Winston and Mariotta for example), when their turn comes up, they'll get the money too.

Only Washington has avoided making the committment. But they are being dumb. They could have locked Cousins up at $24 million/year for a while. But they've paid him $45 million for two years, and will have to pay him $35 million next year to franchise him again. And he'll still get to walk and get a $30 million average from Washington or someone else afterwards.

That's why the contracts are so huge. There are 15-20 teams out there that would love to make a free agent splash by bringing in a top level starting QB.

Cleveland has started nearly 20 different QBs since Stafford was drafted into the league. When you have a franchise QB, do whatever it takes to keep him.

SFIAH

K Major · 08-30-2017, 11:22 AM

Life is good for Kirk Cousins.

QBREES9 · 08-30-2017, 11:23 AM

Has he won anything. Like a Super Bowl. This craziness they're just driving up the price up to resign a great QB like Drew. I'm sorry i just don't see it in Stafford.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-30-2017, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Has he won anything. Like a Super Bowl. This craziness they're just driving up the price up to resign a great QB like Drew. I'm sorry i just don't see it in Stafford.

The NFL is only a meritocracy to a certain degree. The rest is a business. A $14 billion a year business. And it's a business where over 40% of that income must be paid in player salaries due to collective bargaining. In round numbers that's $3.5 million per player on the 32 53 man squads. Note that rookie contract, UDFA, and vet minimum players make much less than that.

As I stated above, NFL teams also have a rolling minimum spending average that they must meet.

Literally the money must be spent somewhere. And like it or not, each starting NFL QB is the media face of the franchise.

The system is working. According to:NFL will reach $14 billion in 2017 revenue – ProFootballTalk revenue is up to $14 billion in 2017 from $8 billion in 2010, a 75% increase in revenue in only 7 years.

So while the money is both insane and real, to organizations it's really Monopoly money as in a lot of ways it's not dollar coming directly from the owner's pockets.

BTW the franchise QB system works. Since 2000 I believe there were only two journeymen QBs that won a SB title (Dilfer in 2000, Johnson in 2003). There's no shot at winning it all without one.

So that's why the money follows the face.

SFIAH

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Originally Posted by The Dude Another losing season and he's gone. I'd put money on it. I really don't expect another losing season, but if it does happen he's only gone if he retires and I don't see that happening because he wants all of the passing records. I'll take your money ($50?) and say that he doesn't go to another team. As easy as that money would be, I hope we do not get a chance to see for several more years to come.

08-30-2017, 04:40 AM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract The next 1 to 2 year contract Brees signs will probably be in the neighborhood of 28-30 mil per year, with all of it guaranteed. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Usually when a player gets this kind of money, I roll my eyes. But Stafford has carried the Lions on his back for a few years now, he's been impressive. Crusader likes this.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money. jnormand likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Originally Posted by QBREES9 Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money. He's a starting NFL QB. It's as simple as that. In two years that will be less than average for the position.

08-30-2017, 11:12 AM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Originally Posted by QBREES9 Matt Stafford, what in the name of all holy hell makes him worth that kind of money. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He's a pretty good franchise starting NFL QB. It's as simple as that. In two years that will be less than average for the position. FIFY Guido is right on target. There are about 12-15 players that can effectively play the NFL QB position. With increasing salary caps and required spending minimums, it's a no brainer to spend the money when an organization has one of the 12. Those that don't keep drafting hoping to find one. And when they get one (Winston and Mariotta for example), when their turn comes up, they'll get the money too. Only Washington has avoided making the committment. But they are being dumb. They could have locked Cousins up at $24 million/year for a while. But they've paid him $45 million for two years, and will have to pay him $35 million next year to franchise him again. And he'll still get to walk and get a $30 million average from Washington or someone else afterwards. That's why the contracts are so huge. There are 15-20 teams out there that would love to make a free agent splash by bringing in a top level starting QB. Cleveland has started nearly 20 different QBs since Stafford was drafted into the league. When you have a franchise QB, do whatever it takes to keep him. SFIAH Rugby Saint II likes this.
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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Has he won anything. Like a Super Bowl. This craziness they're just driving up the price up to resign a great QB like Drew. I'm sorry i just don't see it in Stafford.

08-30-2017, 01:01 PM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Soon-to-be free agent Drew Brees takes note of Matthew Stafford’s contract Originally Posted by QBREES9 Has he won anything. Like a Super Bowl. This craziness they're just driving up the price up to resign a great QB like Drew. I'm sorry i just don't see it in Stafford. The NFL is only a meritocracy to a certain degree. The rest is a business. A $14 billion a year business. And it's a business where over 40% of that income must be paid in player salaries due to collective bargaining. In round numbers that's $3.5 million per player on the 32 53 man squads. Note that rookie contract, UDFA, and vet minimum players make much less than that. As I stated above, NFL teams also have a rolling minimum spending average that they must meet. Literally the money must be spent somewhere. And like it or not, each starting NFL QB is the media face of the franchise. The system is working. According to:NFL will reach $14 billion in 2017 revenue – ProFootballTalk revenue is up to $14 billion in 2017 from $8 billion in 2010, a 75% increase in revenue in only 7 years. So while the money is both insane and real, to organizations it's really Monopoly money as in a lot of ways it's not dollar coming directly from the owner's pockets. BTW the franchise QB system works. Since 2000 I believe there were only two journeymen QBs that won a SB title (Dilfer in 2000, Johnson in 2003). There's no shot at winning it all without one. So that's why the money follows the face. SFIAH saintfan, AsylumGuido and Utah_Saint like this.
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