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jeanpierre 09-04-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 762126)
Chad Johnson had knee injuries, Andre Johnson was about 31 before he slowed down, not 28. Calvin had some kind of injury that wouldn't go away, and apparently was sick of the Lions, so he just walked away. Jerry Rice and Tim Brown were productive into their late thirties, and even early 40's for Jerry. Steve Smith played forever, and as much as I didn't care for his attitude, he stayed quite productive. Randy Moss was dominant (whenever he wanted to be) for about 11 years. If receivers stay healthy, they don't get "old" at 28. RB's do. Now, everyone slows down around 30, but when you're talking about the elite receivers, they don't usually fall off a cliff at that age. Julio isn't showing any signs of slowing down, so to say he's going to suddenly get old this year is rather nonsensical, in my opinion.

Rice, Brown, Moss, you're talking about three receivers in over thirty-five plus years...

And as awesome as Julio Jones can be, he's disappeared in games at times as well...

You mentioned injuries on some players and those injures shorten careers...

Besides the butt hurt of losing a Superbowl, and a six-figured diamond this off-season, Jones has been oft-injured in his career...

It's 50-50, at best, Jones plays past 30...

vpheughan 09-04-2017 04:24 PM

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Either he will or he won't! LOL

burningmetal 09-04-2017 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 762496)
Rice, Brown, Moss, you're talking about three receivers in over thirty-five plus years...

And as awesome as Julio Jones can be, he's disappeared in games at times as well...

You mentioned injuries on some players and those injures shorten careers...

Besides the butt hurt of losing a Superbowl, and a six-figured diamond this off-season, Jones has been oft-injured in his career...

It's 50-50, at best, Jones plays past 30...

I mentioned 4, actually, and you mentioned 3... Did you want us both to sit here and name every single player that has played past 30, or fallen short? Because the players named don't represent the entire list, my friend.

You said that the injuries I mentioned shorten careers. Yeah. That was my point. When you are evaluating the longevity of players by position, major knee injuries aren't part of that process. Any player can have his career ended early with a bad enough injury. When you're talking about elite players, they are athletically gifted and tend to last longer than most, provided they don't have major injuries derailing them.

Julio hasn't had anything truly major, and has only had one season where he missed significant time, when he had some kind of foot fracture. Bones heal a lot better than tendons. The fact is that he's not showing any signs of slowing down. We all know that day will come, but some folks seem to think the end is imminent for him, and to me that's just the Falcon disdain talking.

Yes, he disappears sometimes. Who doesn't anymore? He shows up enough, to me, and that's a different discussion from whether or not someone is getting old.

WillSaints81 09-04-2017 06:33 PM

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Isn't NFL Nation local beat writers? Which means our own beat writer picked us to go 8-8?

Cruize 09-04-2017 08:53 PM

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Atlanta is good. Offensive play makers. Defensive intensity and speed. Carolina and Scam will struggle. TB is everybody's darling and they will be average at best.

WillSaints81 09-05-2017 06:11 PM

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Yes, I stand corrected. David Newton did the picks for Carolina's season. They do one in April when the schedule comes out and before the season. Newton is Charlotte's beat writer.

That means Triplette picked us to go 8-8.

Utah_Saint 09-05-2017 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 762645)
Yes, I stand corrected. David Newton did the picks for Carolina's season. They do one in April when the schedule comes out and before the season. Newton is Charlotte's beat writer.

That means Triplette picked us to go 8-8.

Yeah, he said that right in the article.

"And since I predicted the Saints to finish 9-7 back in April, they've lost defensive tackle Nick Fairley for the season because of a heart issue, and offensive tackle Terron Armstead and cornerback Delvin Breaux for at least the first month or so.

As a result, I've revised my season prediction to 8-8.

Seer1 09-06-2017 06:33 AM

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Fairley? Armstead?? Breaux??? OMG That's our entire team! How're we going to be able to win at all???

Championship!!!

WillSaints81 09-06-2017 06:56 PM

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Point is it's no big deal. For instance, Newton did not say Atlanta and TB were going 11-5.

Seer1 09-06-2017 07:31 PM

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Point is who the hell is Newton and what indicators do we have that he can actually tie his own shoes?

Hack

(P.S. Will, that's saying he's an unknowing know it all. You know, stupid.)


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