ESPN Is Dumb

jeanpierre · 09-04-2017, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Chad Johnson had knee injuries, Andre Johnson was about 31 before he slowed down, not 28. Calvin had some kind of injury that wouldn't go away, and apparently was sick of the Lions, so he just walked away. Jerry Rice and Tim Brown were productive into their late thirties, and even early 40's for Jerry. Steve Smith played forever, and as much as I didn't care for his attitude, he stayed quite productive. Randy Moss was dominant (whenever he wanted to be) for about 11 years. If receivers stay healthy, they don't get "old" at 28. RB's do. Now, everyone slows down around 30, but when you're talking about the elite receivers, they don't usually fall off a cliff at that age. Julio isn't showing any signs of slowing down, so to say he's going to suddenly get old this year is rather nonsensical, in my opinion.

Rice, Brown, Moss, you're talking about three receivers in over thirty-five plus years...

And as awesome as Julio Jones can be, he's disappeared in games at times as well...

You mentioned injuries on some players and those injures shorten careers...

Besides the butt hurt of losing a Superbowl, and a six-figured diamond this off-season, Jones has been oft-injured in his career...

It's 50-50, at best, Jones plays past 30...

burningmetal · 09-04-2017, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Rice, Brown, Moss, you're talking about three receivers in over thirty-five plus years...

And as awesome as Julio Jones can be, he's disappeared in games at times as well...

You mentioned injuries on some players and those injures shorten careers...

Besides the butt hurt of losing a Superbowl, and a six-figured diamond this off-season, Jones has been oft-injured in his career...

It's 50-50, at best, Jones plays past 30...

I mentioned 4, actually, and you mentioned 3... Did you want us both to sit here and name every single player that has played past 30, or fallen short? Because the players named don't represent the entire list, my friend.

You said that the injuries I mentioned shorten careers. Yeah. That was my point. When you are evaluating the longevity of players by position, major knee injuries aren't part of that process. Any player can have his career ended early with a bad enough injury. When you're talking about elite players, they are athletically gifted and tend to last longer than most, provided they don't have major injuries derailing them.

Julio hasn't had anything truly major, and has only had one season where he missed significant time, when he had some kind of foot fracture. Bones heal a lot better than tendons. The fact is that he's not showing any signs of slowing down. We all know that day will come, but some folks seem to think the end is imminent for him, and to me that's just the Falcon disdain talking.

Yes, he disappears sometimes. Who doesn't anymore? He shows up enough, to me, and that's a different discussion from whether or not someone is getting old.

09-04-2017, 01:02 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: ESPN Is Dumb Originally Posted by burningmetal Chad Johnson had knee injuries, Andre Johnson was about 31 before he slowed down, not 28. Calvin had some kind of injury that wouldn't go away, and apparently was sick of the Lions, so he just walked away. Jerry Rice and Tim Brown were productive into their late thirties, and even early 40's for Jerry. Steve Smith played forever, and as much as I didn't care for his attitude, he stayed quite productive. Randy Moss was dominant (whenever he wanted to be) for about 11 years. If receivers stay healthy, they don't get "old" at 28. RB's do. Now, everyone slows down around 30, but when you're talking about the elite receivers, they don't usually fall off a cliff at that age. Julio isn't showing any signs of slowing down, so to say he's going to suddenly get old this year is rather nonsensical, in my opinion. Rice, Brown, Moss, you're talking about three receivers in over thirty-five plus years... And as awesome as Julio Jones can be, he's disappeared in games at times as well... You mentioned injuries on some players and those injures shorten careers... Besides the butt hurt of losing a Superbowl, and a six-figured diamond this off-season, Jones has been oft-injured in his career... It's 50-50, at best, Jones plays past 30...

09-04-2017, 06:05 PM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ESPN Is Dumb Originally Posted by jeanpierre Rice, Brown, Moss, you're talking about three receivers in over thirty-five plus years... And as awesome as Julio Jones can be, he's disappeared in games at times as well... You mentioned injuries on some players and those injures shorten careers... Besides the butt hurt of losing a Superbowl, and a six-figured diamond this off-season, Jones has been oft-injured in his career... It's 50-50, at best, Jones plays past 30... I mentioned 4, actually, and you mentioned 3... Did you want us both to sit here and name every single player that has played past 30, or fallen short? Because the players named don't represent the entire list, my friend. You said that the injuries I mentioned shorten careers. Yeah. That was my point. When you are evaluating the longevity of players by position, major knee injuries aren't part of that process. Any player can have his career ended early with a bad enough injury. When you're talking about elite players, they are athletically gifted and tend to last longer than most, provided they don't have major injuries derailing them. Julio hasn't had anything truly major, and has only had one season where he missed significant time, when he had some kind of foot fracture. Bones heal a lot better than tendons. The fact is that he's not showing any signs of slowing down. We all know that day will come, but some folks seem to think the end is imminent for him, and to me that's just the Falcon disdain talking. Yes, he disappears sometimes. Who doesn't anymore? He shows up enough, to me, and that's a different discussion from whether or not someone is getting old. K Major likes this.
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