Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to the*Vikings

FinSaint · 09-10-2017, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

While I know the following stats are preseason stats, the Viqueens allowed an average of 22.75 points per game, the Saints 10.25 points per game, not factoring in actual points given up by the defense. If we did the latter, our stats would be even better. If we were to juxtapose the very same preseason stats from the last few years, we would see a difference. It would appear we are remarkably improved on defense, any way you slice it. It'll be fun to see just how much in the next few games.

True, but you'd have to take into consideration the opponents they played against, who those opponents fielded out of the roster, what were the goals they tried to achieve in the games, etc. - and then look at the same variables from the Vikes' and Saints' point of view.

Having watched those games fairly closely, the Vikes held out many starters from all of the preseason games or gave them just a handful of snaps.

I'm not saying they are world-beaters - just trying to keep a cool head.

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CheramieIII · 09-10-2017, 02:57 AM

AP and Mark Ingram will be like Bread and Butter, Milk and Cookies, Thunder and Lightning, Catholics and Wine......well you get the message. They will open up the passing game for sure. Like that needs to be anymore open than it already is!

FinSaint · 09-10-2017, 06:36 AM

Well the Vikes have arguably the best 4-3 NT against the run in Linval Joseph and very fast LBs in Kendricks and Barr, so it's probably going to be hard to get to the second level with the runs.

And if Ingram and/or Peterson can get past the LBs - the secondary headed by Harrison Smith is no slouch open-field tackling.

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burningmetal · 09-10-2017, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well the Vikes have arguably the best 4-3 NT against the run in Linval Joseph and very fast LBs in Kendricks and Barr, so it's probably going to be hard to get to the second level with the runs.

And if Ingram and/or Peterson can get past the LBs - the secondary headed by Harrison Smith is no slouch open-field tackling.

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If we're getting past the linebackers in the running game, then it doesn't really matter who's in the secondary. We've already accomplished what we need, if we're getting to that level.

If we take care of the ball and control time of possession, 20 points should win this game. Sam Bradford just doesn't get the ball down the field and that offensive line is sketchy, at best. If the Saints defense has improved as much as we think it has, then it will be an especially long day for Bradford.

I think the Saints will score more than 20, though. I think we can get at least around 27 or 28, despite the Vikings solid defense, because I have a feeling the Vikes D will be on the field for a large portion of the game. If we are somehow consistently running the ball 5 plus yards, then I think it could be a blowout. But I anticipate that this will be a game we lead much of the way, and put away in the 4th quarter by 10 to 14 points.

jeanpierre · 09-10-2017, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well the Vikes have arguably the best 4-3 NT against the run in Linval Joseph and very fast LBs in Kendricks and Barr, so it's probably going to be hard to get to the second level with the runs.

And if Ingram and/or Peterson can get past the LBs - the secondary headed by Harrison Smith is no slouch open-field tackling.

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Well, we've got m@ss and @ss as well and we're not Chicago...

rezburna · 09-10-2017, 09:13 AM

Adrian Peterson. He went to Oklahoma. Baker Mayfield. He's at Oklahoma. Saints take Baker Mayfield with the 32nd pick in the NFL Draft next year.

Or we take Lamar Jackson in the 2nd or 3rd after everybody doubts his ability to play QB at the next level.

AP goes for 150 first game and 3 TDs.

K Major · 09-10-2017, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Saints take Baker Mayfield with the 32nd pick in the NFL Draft next year.

Gunslinger, ability to rally the troops (see OSU game last night). I see a lot of Derek Carr in him. Baker could possibly become the 1st QB taken. If he keeps playing at a high level, highly unlikely he drops out of the top 10.

rezburna · 09-11-2017, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Gunslinger, ability to rally the troops (see OSU game last night). I see a lot of Derek Carr in him. Baker could possibly become the 1st QB taken. If he keeps playing at a high level, highly unlikely he drops out of the top 10.

I think they'll keep the kids from USC and Wyoming ahead of him because of his size, but I like him too. He's got swag.

RailBoss · 09-11-2017, 03:30 PM

We all want what AP wants this evening...........

ChrisXVI · 09-11-2017, 04:26 PM

Tell ya one thing... Packers fans here are excited to finally be able to root for AP lol.

09-10-2017, 09:37 AM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings Originally Posted by SmashMouth** While I know the following stats are preseason stats, the Viqueens allowed an average of 22.75 points per game, the Saints 10.25 points per game, not factoring in actual points given up by the defense. If we did the latter, our stats would be even better. If we were to juxtapose the very same preseason stats from the last few years, we would see a difference. It would appear we are remarkably improved on defense, any way you slice it. It'll be fun to see just how much in the next few games. True, but you'd have to take into consideration the opponents they played against, who those opponents fielded out of the roster, what were the goals they tried to achieve in the games, etc. - and then look at the same variables from the Vikes' and Saints' point of view. Having watched those games fairly closely, the Vikes held out many starters from all of the preseason games or gave them just a handful of snaps. I'm not saying they are world-beaters - just trying to keep a cool head. Sent from my FRD-L19 using Tapatalk

09-10-2017, 02:57 AM	#2
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,496 Blog Entries: 3	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings** AP and Mark Ingram will be like Bread and Butter, Milk and Cookies, Thunder and Lightning, Catholics and Wine......well you get the message. They will open up the passing game for sure. Like that needs to be anymore open than it already is!

09-10-2017, 06:36 AM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings** Well the Vikes have arguably the best 4-3 NT against the run in Linval Joseph and very fast LBs in Kendricks and Barr, so it's probably going to be hard to get to the second level with the runs. And if Ingram and/or Peterson can get past the LBs - the secondary headed by Harrison Smith is no slouch open-field tackling. Sent from my FRD-L19 using Tapatalk

09-10-2017, 07:54 AM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings Originally Posted by FinSaint** Well the Vikes have arguably the best 4-3 NT against the run in Linval Joseph and very fast LBs in Kendricks and Barr, so it's probably going to be hard to get to the second level with the runs. And if Ingram and/or Peterson can get past the LBs - the secondary headed by Harrison Smith is no slouch open-field tackling. Sent from my FRD-L19 using Tapatalk If we're getting past the linebackers in the running game, then it doesn't really matter who's in the secondary. We've already accomplished what we need, if we're getting to that level. If we take care of the ball and control time of possession, 20 points should win this game. Sam Bradford just doesn't get the ball down the field and that offensive line is sketchy, at best. If the Saints defense has improved as much as we think it has, then it will be an especially long day for Bradford. I think the Saints will score more than 20, though. I think we can get at least around 27 or 28, despite the Vikings solid defense, because I have a feeling the Vikes D will be on the field for a large portion of the game. If we are somehow consistently running the ball 5 plus yards, then I think it could be a blowout. But I anticipate that this will be a game we lead much of the way, and put away in the 4th quarter by 10 to 14 points.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

09-10-2017, 08:41 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings Originally Posted by FinSaint Well the Vikes have arguably the best 4-3 NT against the run in Linval Joseph and very fast LBs in Kendricks and Barr, so it's probably going to be hard to get to the second level with the runs. And if Ingram and/or Peterson can get past the LBs - the secondary headed by Harrison Smith is no slouch open-field tackling. Sent from my FRD-L19 using Tapatalk Well, we've got m@ss and @ss as well and we're not Chicago...**

09-10-2017, 09:13 AM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings** Adrian Peterson. He went to Oklahoma. Baker Mayfield. He's at Oklahoma. Saints take Baker Mayfield with the 32nd pick in the NFL Draft next year. Or we take Lamar Jackson in the 2nd or 3rd after everybody doubts his ability to play QB at the next level. AP goes for 150 first game and 3 TDs.

09-10-2017, 12:15 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,824 Blog Entries: 3	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings Originally Posted by rezburna Saints take Baker Mayfield** with the 32nd pick in the NFL Draft next year. Gunslinger, ability to rally the troops (see OSU game last night). I see a lot of Derek Carr in him. Baker could possibly become the 1st QB taken. If he keeps playing at a high level, highly unlikely he drops out of the top 10. Seer1 likes this.

09-11-2017, 08:30 AM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings Originally Posted by K Major** Gunslinger, ability to rally the troops (see OSU game last night). I see a lot of Derek Carr in him. Baker could possibly become the 1st QB taken. If he keeps playing at a high level, highly unlikely he drops out of the top 10. I think they'll keep the kids from USC and Wyoming ahead of him because of his size, but I like him too. He's got swag. K Major likes this.

09-11-2017, 03:30 PM	#9
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings** We all want what AP wants this evening...........

09-11-2017, 04:26 PM	#10
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	*Re: Adrian Peterson: I want to stick it to theVikings** Tell ya one thing... Packers fans here are excited to finally be able to root for AP lol.

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