Just How Good Is Drew Brees?

K Major · 09-10-2017, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We had a top 20 defense in 2013. I can't say with the way the oline was playing in 14 and 15 that there would have been two more rings.

Ok ... whatever.

WillSaints81 · 09-10-2017, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ok ... whatever.

You believe what you want to believe but Brees almost lost to the vikings in that NFC Championship game. Even in a winning season, without HFA it is not easy to go to a SB. You are optimistic but there is no way the saints beat 12-4 Seattle in Seattle in 2014 with bad center play and the way the offense got pushed around three of the last four home games that season. If somehow we won that division by beating SF or Atlanta in the games we should have won, we were in for trouble in Seattle that January. 2015, we had to deal with a likely 14-1 Carolina and a 13-3 Arizona. Even if we won we are still going there if we got by Carolina in January. Maybe last year with a top 20 defense we would have won, but those two years we would have had to win in Seattle, Carolina, and Arizona in January. The team needs to be complete to win a SB. Top three offense, top five oline, and top 20 defense.

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Papa Voodoo · 09-11-2017, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

You believe what you want to believe but Brees almost lost to the vikings in that NFC Championship game. Even in a winning season, without HFA it is not easy to go to a SB. You are optimistic but there is no way the saints beat 12-4 Seattle in Seattle in 2014 with bad center play and the way the offense got pushed around three of the last four home games that season. If somehow we won that division by beating SF or Atlanta in the games we should have won, we were in for trouble in Seattle that January. 2015, we had to deal with a likely 14-1 Carolina and a 13-3 Arizona. Even if we won we are still going there if we got by Carolina in January. Maybe last year with a top 20 defense we would have won, but those two years we would have had to win in Seattle, Carolina, and Arizona in January. The team needs to be complete to win a SB. Top three offense, top five oline, and top 20 defense.

Don't be hatin' on Special Teams. 3 game winning field goals not only blocked last year, but returned for TDs. And, Lutz is still kicking low.

Utah_Saint · 09-11-2017, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We had a top 20 defense in 2013. I can't say with the way the oline was playing in 14 and 15 that there would have been two more rings.

The Oline was ranked 11th in 2014 and 3rd in 2015. Your argument is invalid.

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09-10-2017, 10:03 PM	#11
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Just How Good Is Drew Brees? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We had a top 20 defense in 2013. I can't say with the way the oline was playing in 14 and 15 that there would have been two more rings. Ok ... whatever.

09-10-2017, 11:18 PM	#12
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Just How Good Is Drew Brees? Originally Posted by K Major Ok ... whatever. You believe what you want to believe but Brees almost lost to the vikings in that NFC Championship game. Even in a winning season, without HFA it is not easy to go to a SB. You are optimistic but there is no way the saints beat 12-4 Seattle in Seattle in 2014 with bad center play and the way the offense got pushed around three of the last four home games that season. If somehow we won that division by beating SF or Atlanta in the games we should have won, we were in for trouble in Seattle that January. 2015, we had to deal with a likely 14-1 Carolina and a 13-3 Arizona. Even if we won we are still going there if we got by Carolina in January. Maybe last year with a top 20 defense we would have won, but those two years we would have had to win in Seattle, Carolina, and Arizona in January. The team needs to be complete to win a SB. Top three offense, top five oline, and top 20 defense.

09-11-2017, 12:31 PM	#14
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Just How Good Is Drew Brees? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 You believe what you want to believe but Brees almost lost to the vikings in that NFC Championship game. Even in a winning season, without HFA it is not easy to go to a SB. You are optimistic but there is no way the saints beat 12-4 Seattle in Seattle in 2014 with bad center play and the way the offense got pushed around three of the last four home games that season. If somehow we won that division by beating SF or Atlanta in the games we should have won, we were in for trouble in Seattle that January. 2015, we had to deal with a likely 14-1 Carolina and a 13-3 Arizona. Even if we won we are still going there if we got by Carolina in January. Maybe last year with a top 20 defense we would have won, but those two years we would have had to win in Seattle, Carolina, and Arizona in January. The team needs to be complete to win a SB. Top three offense, top five oline, and top 20 defense. Don't be hatin' on Special Teams. 3 game winning field goals not only blocked last year, but returned for TDs. And, Lutz is still kicking low.

09-11-2017, 05:05 PM	#15
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Just How Good Is Drew Brees? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We had a top 20 defense in 2013. I can't say with the way the oline was playing in 14 and 15 that there would have been two more rings. The Oline was ranked 11th in 2014 and 3rd in 2015. Your argument is invalid.

09-11-2017, 05:25 PM	#16
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Just How Good Is Drew Brees? Simply the Best. DREW BREES

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