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Maybe you didn't notice the post I was responding to.

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Can we trade Payton for Belchick?

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Yep and you know what extremely frustrating? Watching SP not adjust to the fact that we did not have the blocking for plays that take time to develop down the field and Brees kept getting 0 time. You could tell the Vikings thought we were going to bring heat and that was why they only threw quick passes to start the game. Then they switched it up and started going down the field.

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I could tell our D wasn't the same as preseason right from the very start, when they got beat on 3rd down twice by the same exact play, a drag route.
Right before the snap, the entire LB and DB group were just pointing and shouting to each other like they didn't know their assignments.

But our "number 1 offense" refused to throw to anyone that wasn't a RB. We needed to take shots downfield, yet Payton force fed the ball to Kamara and AP.

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No slants to MT. I counted one. One of the worst plays I saw was the swing pass to kamara...I mean I just looked like it was in slow mo wondering when are we going to throw him the ball.

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Is Payton that scared of our receiving corps without Cooks or Snead? I understand he said he was committed to the running game but I didn't think he meant he was committed to only throwing to his running backs.
I think Brees was a little off too. It's understandable, they didn't get much game time work together. I hope they get their **** together. KC had to score what, like 40 plus points to beat the Pats? I guarantee our defense can't limit them to under 30 so offense better get their **** together .

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Watched the game again last night and confirmed play calling has got to be more patient with the run game - from a post earlier in the thread...

In the first half, we had RuYd plays of 9, 1, 3, 2, 2, 1, 4, 3, 3, 7, 2, 5, -1, 3, 2, 1...

Again, the 20 yd gashes are great, but this Vikings defense was third (3rd) in pass defense, but only twentieth (20th) in rush defense last season...

So the recipe for beating these physical defenses like the Vikings, Seahawks and Broncos is too pound them, running it right at their edge rushers...

And another thing I didn't see with the Ingram and Peterson runs was a lot of pull-zone blocking to open the field, instead trying to run at L. Joseph...

Running those wide zone sweeps, exposing their pass rushers to those remember me hits from our physical guards...

Believe Payton learned his lesson and the MNF beating in the second half will reinforce the lesson...

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I don't understand why our offense didn't come out of the gates aggressive, we just passed every ball to the flats and expected to get a first down. Call some shots down the field man!!

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