Payton need to go?

spkb25 · 09-17-2017, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I've never been a proponent of tanking but if we're going to continue to play this bad, we might as well keep them until the end of the season. At the same time, if we have any chance of turning it around, we're better off keeping them til the end of the season as well.

It's crazy how contradicting that is.

not really, what we need to have happen is for us to win 3-5 games so it is blatantly obvious he needs to go. I am afraid 7-9 gets him back here again.

I bet SP will be successful somewhere else, but he is done here

spkb25 · 09-17-2017, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Too early for this thread

And now?

neugey · 09-17-2017, 07:03 PM

Here is the really scary things about this year's 0-2 -

We have turned the ball over 0 times. No fumbles lost, no interceptions thrown. We also have never blown special teams coverage and given up a big return. So on the whole we are actually executing fairly well right now.

Despite all of this, it was obvious by midway through 3rd quarter in each game we were toast and out of the game, even with one of the best passers in the league.

It could real ugly real fast against a team that does force us to turn it over.

Danno · 09-17-2017, 07:07 PM

Just a reminder...

We have the highest paid Head Coach in the NFL.

Pete Carroll	Seattle Seahawks	$8,000,000
Sean Payton	New Orleans Saints	$8,000,000
Bill Belichick	New England Patriots	$7,500,000
Andy Reid	Kansas City Chiefs	$7,500,000
John Harbaugh	Baltimore Ravens	$7,000,000
Mike Tomlin	Pittsburgh Steelers	$7,000,000
Mike McCarthy	Green Bay Packers	$6,000,000
Jason Garrett	Dallas Cowboys	$6,000,000
Bruce Arians	Arizona Cardinals	$6,000,000
Jay Gruden	Washington Redskins	$5,000,000

CharityMike · 09-17-2017, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Just a reminder...

We have the highest paid Head Coach in the NFL.

LOL..way to pour salt on the wound.

WillSaints81 · 09-17-2017, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Okay, Soooooo if you let Coach Payton go. Who takes his place?

We rebuild like the way the panthers and bucs did. Get a new GM and a new idea here and hope it works. If it doesn't, then hopefully someone in the league will put the pressure on Benson(either one). Start with a younger energetic QB and become a run oriented team with money to pay for a couple of A type defensive players. If we cannot do this then someone needs to start studying some college course to be a saints GM so the suckage won't take that long.

Why should we continue 7-9 seasons? It's more depressing because we are holding back potential legends. If Brees was not on the team the losing seasons will be easier to swallow because at least we can't say we have someone on our team who deserves more wins than players on the other three teams.

AsylumGuido · 09-17-2017, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

So basically we should not care, stay with Payton and Brees just because and enjoy losing? What's wrong with wanting your team to get better? You act as if we owe them something for winning a game almost 10 years ago. I just don't get how you equate wanting drastic change to not being a real fan. Dude you suck. One more loss and you will disappear. I don't know why I bother with you.

I haven't disappeared in 50 years, "Dude". I've been there week in week out pulling for my Saints. I know there is nothing I can do personally, or any of you either, to improve anything. I never leave my Saints.

ChrisXVI · 09-17-2017, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We rebuild like the way the panthers and bucs did. Get a new GM and a new idea here and hope it works. If it doesn't, then hopefully someone in the league will put the pressure on Benson(either one). Start with a younger energetic QB and become a run oriented team with money to pay for a couple of A type defensive players. If we cannot do this then someone needs to start studying some college course to be a saints GM so the suckage won't take that long.

Why should we continue 7-9 seasons? It's more depressing because we are holding back potential legends. If Brees was not on the team the losing seasons will be easier to swallow because at least we can't say we have someone on our team who deserves more wins than players on the other three teams.

Will, I don't know what's going on with you man, but you've been terrific and on point lately. Well said buddy!

WillSaints81 · 09-17-2017, 10:16 PM

I haven't changed from any of my view points in the offseason. It's just the offseason was so full of let's not be negative hoopla on this forum that it became hard to express concerns over stuff from last season. Once the season starts, you see everything loud and clear. But this time I'm looking at every snap and I am seeing for myself how awful everything looks.

Euphoria · 09-17-2017, 10:18 PM

Peyton Manning is available for GM position???

09-17-2017, 06:43 PM	#181
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by papz I've never been a proponent of tanking but if we're going to continue to play this bad, we might as well keep them until the end of the season. At the same time, if we have any chance of turning it around, we're better off keeping them til the end of the season as well. It's crazy how contradicting that is. not really, what we need to have happen is for us to win 3-5 games so it is blatantly obvious he needs to go. I am afraid 7-9 gets him back here again. I bet SP will be successful somewhere else, but he is done here

09-17-2017, 06:47 PM	#182
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Too early for this thread And now? K Major likes this.

09-17-2017, 07:03 PM	#183
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Payton need to go? Here is the really scary things about this year's 0-2 - We have turned the ball over 0 times. No fumbles lost, no interceptions thrown. We also have never blown special teams coverage and given up a big return. So on the whole we are actually executing fairly well right now. Despite all of this, it was obvious by midway through 3rd quarter in each game we were toast and out of the game, even with one of the best passers in the league. It could real ugly real fast against a team that does force us to turn it over. spkb25, ChrisXVI and MarchingOn like this.

09-17-2017, 07:08 PM	#185
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by Danno Just a reminder... We have the highest paid Head Coach in the NFL. LOL..way to pour salt on the wound. spkb25 likes this.

09-17-2017, 08:26 PM	#186
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by QBREES9 Okay, Soooooo if you let Coach Payton go. Who takes his place? We rebuild like the way the panthers and bucs did. Get a new GM and a new idea here and hope it works. If it doesn't, then hopefully someone in the league will put the pressure on Benson(either one). Start with a younger energetic QB and become a run oriented team with money to pay for a couple of A type defensive players. If we cannot do this then someone needs to start studying some college course to be a saints GM so the suckage won't take that long. Why should we continue 7-9 seasons? It's more depressing because we are holding back potential legends. If Brees was not on the team the losing seasons will be easier to swallow because at least we can't say we have someone on our team who deserves more wins than players on the other three teams. neugey, ChrisXVI and CharityMike like this.

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09-17-2017, 08:30 PM	#187
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by The Dude So basically we should not care, stay with Payton and Brees just because and enjoy losing? What's wrong with wanting your team to get better? You act as if we owe them something for winning a game almost 10 years ago. I just don't get how you equate wanting drastic change to not being a real fan. Dude you suck. One more loss and you will disappear. I don't know why I bother with you. I haven't disappeared in 50 years, "Dude". I've been there week in week out pulling for my Saints. I know there is nothing I can do personally, or any of you either, to improve anything. I never leave my Saints. exiled likes this.

09-17-2017, 08:35 PM	#188
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We rebuild like the way the panthers and bucs did. Get a new GM and a new idea here and hope it works. If it doesn't, then hopefully someone in the league will put the pressure on Benson(either one). Start with a younger energetic QB and become a run oriented team with money to pay for a couple of A type defensive players. If we cannot do this then someone needs to start studying some college course to be a saints GM so the suckage won't take that long. Why should we continue 7-9 seasons? It's more depressing because we are holding back potential legends. If Brees was not on the team the losing seasons will be easier to swallow because at least we can't say we have someone on our team who deserves more wins than players on the other three teams. Will, I don't know what's going on with you man, but you've been terrific and on point lately. Well said buddy! neugey and CharityMike like this.

09-17-2017, 10:16 PM	#189
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Payton need to go? I haven't changed from any of my view points in the offseason. It's just the offseason was so full of let's not be negative hoopla on this forum that it became hard to express concerns over stuff from last season. Once the season starts, you see everything loud and clear. But this time I'm looking at every snap and I am seeing for myself how awful everything looks. MarchingOn likes this.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Payton need to go? Peyton Manning is available for GM position???

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