Adrian Peterson Needs To Geaux
 

This Bullshinski can not be tolerated...

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He should be mad. Mark Igram should be too. We should have featured those two all night long on the ground and through the air. Payton needs to go.

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Peterson should have never been signed. It didn't make any sense. I don't understand why we didn't really get Ingram involved until the end of the 4th quarter. Clearly Alvin Kamara is our RB of the future but Ingram is one of our best weapons right now and he wasn't out there.

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It seems like sometimes Payten out thinks himself. Too worried about mismatch packages when sometimes simple is the answer. Its still only week one but Brees almost got killed last night. Our defense looked worse than last year.

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I was stoked for the AP signing, but he does not look like a good fit for our offense.

Another frustrating thing is Payton will not admit fault and Peterson will not be released/traded.

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If you watched that game and you think that is the bullshinski that can't be tolerated...

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Another year of off-season lip service to the running game, this time worse than ever. Payton should have been updating his running schemes but it seems like he spent more time playing golf with Johnny Manziel and going to Kenny Chesney's beach-side parties.

This is 0% AP's fault. Treating AP like any old running back was not what was needed.

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Yeah I think Sean handled it perfectly. Just look to make eye contact like yeah I see you... I got you... and ignore it.

The real problem isn't with AP or who ever is at RB the problem is the O line is crap. They can't protect a hall of fame QB and they certainly can create lanes for the RBs.

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Bad fit. Cards and Giants need a back. I would like to see him go to Denver. I think he would thrive.

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Unfortunately, yes. Why do you ask?

What is so wrong about AP saying "we need to run the ball" to the HC?
Should he start and end sentences with "Sir"?
Speak only when spoken to?

What I found bullshinski:
The awful play calling through 4 quarters.
The complete lack of in-game adjustments by both offense and defense.
1 out of 5 in the red zone.
Letting a walk-on WR look like Randy Moss.
Letting Bradford stand in his pocket for ages, untouched, the entire game (save for one freak sack) when going against an o-line that has never played together in a regular season game.

So, in all, AP telling Payton "we need to run the ball" doesn't even make the list of the bullshinski I witness.

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you nailed it. If Peterson had 30 carries, he would have had 60 yards with this line. We're driving a Mercedes body on a prius motor.

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I agree. I still think AP has plenty left in the tank, but as others stated, we aren't the type of team to give one back 20+ carries to get going.

I would love to see them trade him to Cards/Giants and try to get secondary help or draft picks. Not sure what those teams have available.

Its nothing against AP, it just we have two guys that can play well at RB already and need help elsewhere, and he is the logical choice to cut out of the equation.

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I agree it can't be tolerated but given the situation I'll give him a pass now. He was fired up and was full of emotion. You could tell he wanted to hurt Minnesota. Bad. It was a huge game for him personally. There was also no audio. They could have been arguing about Gatorade. I'll give him the benifit of the doubt. This time.

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I don't know what the conversation was about. Peterson claimed that he just suggested they run up the middle. If that's true, I don't see anything wrong with a suggestion. We've seen Brees get animated talking to Payton before. I didn't see Peterson actively pouting, otherwise I'd be upset. I think this is being blown up because people automatically assume that Peterson can't handle sharing the load. Maybe he ultimately will prove that he indeed cannot handle it, but he chose to sign here, and this is not an offense you want to play in if you are a selfish running back. You will not get what you want, and he had to already know that.

One last thing I want to point out is that I've seen a lot of people mentioning that Ingram is hands down our best back, and suggesting we should have featured him more. I don't agree that Ingram is our best back, for one thing, but just looking at the stats from last night, Peterson technically had the "best" night. 6 carrries for 18 yards for AP, 6 carries for 17 yards for Ingram and 7 for 18 for Kamara.

Nobody beat anybody out at the position last night, let's be honest. Nevermind all the talk about who fits where. Nobody had any room.

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I would trade him, but nothing to do with this situation. If we need an good OL go get one. We are still fine at RB and several teams are hurting at RB. AP will also not be here next year regardless. Way more value in a OL than AP right now.

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I'm not sure who would give us a good offensive lineman for Adrian Peterson. I happen to believe he has something left in the tank, and he can be successful here, or elsewhere, but he IS 32 and that kind of makes his trade value next to nothing. Teams that need running backs will probably inquire about him, sure, but they'll be talking about mid round draft choices, not starting offensive lineman. Just my two cents.

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Let this sink in.

No one on the Saints is more familiar with the Vikings defense than AP. Yet not even once did we use AP in pass protection. Not once did we use AP on a checkdown route, where he can be very deadly if he gets a one and one matchup. Not once did we use AP as a decoy with play action and roll the play the other way.

Sean had no problem using Kamara and Ingram in multi-faceted ways, but we couldn't give AP the same treatment?! He has far more game experience than Ingram and Kamara combined.

If this is how we were going to treat AP, might as well made him inactive and gave his carries to Victor or Edmunds.

More and more I am also starting to see that Brees is a prisoner in this system. Bradford gets to make checks at the line but Brees cannot do so because the coach's ego is on the line?

Now that we have better special teams coaching and better assistants coaching LB, WR, etc. we are wasting their talents as well.

I don't know if I've ever seen a game where the players outside of 1 CB all played pretty well, no turnovers, no short field, etc. and still lost this badly. 100% coaching.

I'm tempted to say fire Payton, Carmichael and DA and give this team to Mike Nolan as an interim.

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Agreed. Kind of reminds me of a few years back when Dez was yelling at Romo on the sideline and the media fed off of what they "assumed" as a confrontation. When they finally got the audio, Dez was simply fired up and telling his QB "believe in me, I got you. We can beat these boys but I need to be involved!" (I'm paraphrasing). AP was no different last night.

Here is basically what was said ...

Let's be clear...I said we need to run the ball up their Donkey. Nothing more. I'm passionate but respect my coach at the same time

— Adrian Peterson (@AdrianPeterson) September 12, 2017

Over reaction by the media.

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Give him the ball and let him GEAUX ON THE FIELD.

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Anyone blaming AP for last night is crazy. AP didn't sign himself to the team and he's not calling the plays. Maybe if our head coach wasn't so concerned with coming up with special formations and player packages and actually let his OC worry about the offense while he took care of the overall coaching of the team we might have had a different result.

Over time Payton's offense is becoming less explosive and more predictable. Also, I'm not fooled by the stats at the end of the game. No one is impressed with getting a bunch of garbage yards at the end of the game when the defense is playing prevent.

One thing I did notice last night with our offense is that our no huddle offense is really effective. This has actually been the case the last 2 years. When we stop all the substitutions and just execute with pace our offense gets in a better rhythm and it starts to resemble what our offense used to look like (explosive wise)

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As soon as we stopped throwing to the RB's, that's when we started becoming effective.

We were not aggressive at all until late in the 3rd, then we got to the goal line and Payton just gave up multiple times and settled for 3!!

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One thing I see changing next week; no settling for multiple FGs. We don't have the D to win in that situation but we likely thought we did. It's obvious we do not.

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This. I really wish we would stop throwing bubble screens and quick screens to the running backs and wide receivers. We never get yards off these type of plays. It used to drive me crazy when we would run these type of plays with brandon cooks.

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The problem is the frequency at which we do those things.

The biggest thing we were missing was the vertical passing game and PA pass, it wasn't even attempted until halfway through the 3rd QTR.

Having the vertical pass being a threat for the defense opens up the bubble screen, RB screens and run game. Brees had 74 yards passing at half... unacceptable, we should come out taking shots down field and look to the run game to secure the lead.

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Maybe if Drew Bress could audible instead of running everything sent in to him it would also make a difference. I don't really Blame AP for being disappointed as much as I blame Payton for leaving Harris in there to make a fool out of himself.

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Exactly, 100% agree, 2009 Payton would call seam passes and double moves to start the game. Right off the bat, teams were on the back foot and then the screen opened up for PT23.

Payton has completely lost it, Carmichael should call plays.

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Not AP's fault. I'd be upset too.

SP's playbook is full of too much nonsensical crap & his obsession with 31 different personnel packages doesn't work against good defenses who have the coaching & talent to not really care.

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The offensive game plan was suspect at best. I think AP will struggle all year in the shared role anyway, but I don't blame him for saying wtf, like the rest of us.

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Never was a big fan of this move.

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I was expecting to see a ESPN alert AP was let go. But yeah AP I don't think was mad about not getting enough carries, he was probably mad because the offense without him did nothing for three quarters and he was hungry.

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Sean simply cannot commit to running the ball. It's just the way he is, and I reckon it's the way he always will be. i wish he'd cut back on the weaponry so that he doesn't feel compelled to have to squeeze them all into one game plan

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With this being said, I've gotten it out of my system. Now buckling up and riding with what we got for the rest of the season, hell or high water.

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Never liked the signing, like it even less now.

Washed up child beater.

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Take SP first and I am game for anything

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