Offensive line

The Dude · 09-12-2017, 08:14 AM

Well I made a post early in camp expressing my concern for the offensive line.
I was basically laughed off the board. Hey at least we have Fleener catching now!

ChrisXVI · 09-12-2017, 08:19 AM

The O-Line was fine until Strief went down.

rezburna · 09-12-2017, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

The O-Line was fine until Strief went down.

I don't know. I saw players getting beat early even before he went down. Brees was getting the ball out pretty quick at first though. I kept saying we needed two guards in the offseason. Peat needs to be playing LT instead of starting at Guard.

LT - 1. Armstead 2. Peat
RT - 1. Strief 2. Ramczyk

If we had signed two guards in the offseason Peat would have been filling at LT until Armstead returns and when Strief went down Ramczyk comes in instead of a Kelemente. Now we've got all kind of people out of position and it looks like a mess. Hell, we need a mobile QB until we can get our line together.

The Dude · 09-12-2017, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

The O-Line was fine until Strief went down.

No it wasn't. It definitely exploded when he went down but even from play one Bree's was dropping so far back he was basically running backwards. It would have eventually been dealt with by their defense. The depth along the line was my concern. And it is very real.

ChrisXVI · 09-12-2017, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

No it wasn't. It definitely exploded when he went down but even from play one Bree's was dropping so far back he was basically running backwards. It would have eventually been dealt with by their defense. The depth along the line was my concern. And it is very real.

We were playing a top 5 defense. Did people really expect Brees to have 5 seconds in the pocket?

burningmetal · 09-12-2017, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We were playing a top 5 defense. Did people really expect Brees to have 5 seconds in the pocket?

No, but when people say "give us a top 15 defense and we'd have won 3 or 4 Super Bowl's by now" you'd think if our offense is that amazing, we could give him SOME kind of time, right?

We have a good offense, most of the time. It's not elite. The talent is there, but for one thing the line depth IS and has been an issue for some time, and the play calling is too predictable. Even with Drew running for his life, you saw that when we were aggressive (which was rare) we could still move it. This offense COULD be elite, but it's far from it as of now.

K Major · 09-12-2017, 08:55 AM

To simplify, it's about matchups.

NO was over matched vs the Vikes. A better "matchup" will come Sunday vs NE. Their D (specifically the front 7) is no where near as good as MN.

It will help that this game is in the dome.

dizzle88 · 09-12-2017, 09:09 AM

The offense needed to play more in preseason, Brees is not in sync with these receivers.

Credit Coby Fleener and Tommy Lee Lewis, the only two bright spots in my opinion.

Danno · 09-12-2017, 09:45 AM

As several experts pointed out before the game, the Vikes have arguably the best front 7 in the NFL right now.

I looked that way to me.

My biggest disappointment was the fact that we couldn't get any pressure on them. And several experts also pointed out before the game that the Vikes O-line was arguably among the weakest in the NFL right now.

halloween 65 · 09-12-2017, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

To simplify, it's about matchups.

NO was over matched vs the Vikes. A better "matchup" will come Sunday vs NE. Their D (specifically the front 7) is no where near as good as MN.

It will help that this game is in the dome.

K Major they might not be as good as Minni but Belicheck can mask his weaknesses on either side of the ball better than any coach has ever. Brees will have to beat their secondary which is pretty good. Their front line isn't bad but their lb.'s right now are their weak links. I look for more dinks and dunks in this game against their lb.'s and with our O-line being broke down I look for Belicheck to play man to man and send occasional blitzes if his front gets enough pressure on Brees.

09-12-2017, 08:14 AM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Offensive line Well I made a post early in camp expressing my concern for the offensive line. I was basically laughed off the board. Hey at least we have Fleener catching now!
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09-12-2017, 08:19 AM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Offensive line The O-Line was fine until Strief went down. QBREES9 likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: Offensive line Originally Posted by ChrisXVI The O-Line was fine until Strief went down. I don't know. I saw players getting beat early even before he went down. Brees was getting the ball out pretty quick at first though. I kept saying we needed two guards in the offseason. Peat needs to be playing LT instead of starting at Guard. LT - 1. Armstead 2. Peat RT - 1. Strief 2. Ramczyk If we had signed two guards in the offseason Peat would have been filling at LT until Armstead returns and when Strief went down Ramczyk comes in instead of a Kelemente. Now we've got all kind of people out of position and it looks like a mess. Hell, we need a mobile QB until we can get our line together. hagan714 likes this.
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09-12-2017, 08:30 AM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Offensive line Originally Posted by ChrisXVI The O-Line was fine until Strief went down. No it wasn't. It definitely exploded when he went down but even from play one Bree's was dropping so far back he was basically running backwards. It would have eventually been dealt with by their defense. The depth along the line was my concern. And it is very real.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Offensive line Originally Posted by The Dude No it wasn't. It definitely exploded when he went down but even from play one Bree's was dropping so far back he was basically running backwards. It would have eventually been dealt with by their defense. The depth along the line was my concern. And it is very real. We were playing a top 5 defense. Did people really expect Brees to have 5 seconds in the pocket?

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09-12-2017, 08:40 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Offensive line Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We were playing a top 5 defense. Did people really expect Brees to have 5 seconds in the pocket? No, but when people say "give us a top 15 defense and we'd have won 3 or 4 Super Bowl's by now" you'd think if our offense is that amazing, we could give him SOME kind of time, right? We have a good offense, most of the time. It's not elite. The talent is there, but for one thing the line depth IS and has been an issue for some time, and the play calling is too predictable. Even with Drew running for his life, you saw that when we were aggressive (which was rare) we could still move it. This offense COULD be elite, but it's far from it as of now.
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09-12-2017, 08:55 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Offensive line To simplify, it's about matchups. NO was over matched vs the Vikes. A better "matchup" will come Sunday vs NE. Their D (specifically the front 7) is no where near as good as MN. It will help that this game is in the dome. Cruize and AsylumGuido like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Offensive line The offense needed to play more in preseason, Brees is not in sync with these receivers. Credit Coby Fleener and Tommy Lee Lewis, the only two bright spots in my opinion. RailBoss, 73Saint and jlouhill like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Offensive line As several experts pointed out before the game, the Vikes have arguably the best front 7 in the NFL right now. I looked that way to me. My biggest disappointment was the fact that we couldn't get any pressure on them. And several experts also pointed out before the game that the Vikes O-line was arguably among the weakest in the NFL right now. The Dude likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Offensive line Originally Posted by K Major To simplify, it's about matchups. NO was over matched vs the Vikes. A better "matchup" will come Sunday vs NE. Their D (specifically the front 7) is no where near as good as MN. It will help that this game is in the dome. K Major they might not be as good as Minni but Belicheck can mask his weaknesses on either side of the ball better than any coach has ever. Brees will have to beat their secondary which is pretty good. Their front line isn't bad but their lb.'s right now are their weak links. I look for more dinks and dunks in this game against their lb.'s and with our O-line being broke down I look for Belicheck to play man to man and send occasional blitzes if his front gets enough pressure on Brees.

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