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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno We're gonna shock the world!!! Yeah...no Correct me if I'm wrong Danno, but it sounds as though you - along with the rest of us, has lost a bit of faith in this team after seeing ...

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Old 09-13-2017, 06:29 PM   #1
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Re: The schellacking will be televised

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We're gonna shock the world!!!

Yeah...no
Correct me if I'm wrong Danno, but it sounds as though you - along with the rest of us, has lost a bit of faith in this team after seeing the continous problems they refuse to fix?
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Correct me if I'm wrong Danno, but it sounds as though you - along with the rest of us, has lost a bit of faith in this team after seeing the continous problems they refuse to fix?
Well I don't think its anywhere close to "refuse to fix".

What have they "refused" to do?
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Well I don't think its anywhere close to "refuse to fix".

What have they "refused" to do?
Okay, allow me to rephrase...

Showing their ineptitude at trying to fix the defense.
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Okay, allow me to rephrase...

Showing their ineptitude at trying to fix the defense.
Thats better.

But keep in mind its only 1 game. But yes, it looks like a lot of new players, New assistants, yet the same old results over the last several years.

The only common denominator is???

Lets recap.

Changed DC, LB coach, DB coach, DL coach, OL coach, RB coach, TE coach
Upgraded our scouting department
Upgraded talent at LB, DL, DE, CB, S, OL, WR, RB, FB...

I just can't put my finger on what moves we haven't tried...
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Thats better.

But keep in mind its only 1 game. But yes, it looks like a lot of new faces with the same old results over the last several years.

The only common denominator is???

Lets recap.

Changed DC, LB coach, DB coach, DL coach, OL coach, RB coach, TE coach
Upgraded our scouting department
Upgraded talent at LB, DL, DE, CB, S, OL, WR, RB, FB...

I just can't put my finger on what moves we haven't tried...
Even though it's one game, I found myself more frustrated about that loss than I have been from any loss in recent memory.

Payton fired Rob because the D he wanted, Rob couldn't deliver.
So Payton hired his buddy DA, guess what, that D still doesn't seem to be working.

Maybe Payton just can't coach defensively and he should stay clear of that side of the ball.

I personally think Carmichael should be calling plays on offense also.
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Payton fired Rob because the D he wanted, Rob couldn't deliver.
So Payton hired his buddy DA, guess what, that D still doesn't seem to be working.

Maybe Payton just can't coach defensively and he should stay clear of that side of the ball.

I personally think Carmichael should be calling plays on offense also.
To be fair, Rob's defenses sucked for 3 straight years.

DA wasn't his buddy, he was a solid up and comer Payton was familiar with.

Dennis Allen will be a successful HC in a few years. He's still very very young.

Agree PC should be calling plays.

Which brings me back to the point I was making...

Whats the common denominator?

Hint, he spells his name differently that Peyton Manning.
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To be fair, Rob's defenses sucked for 3 straight years.

DA wasn't his buddy, he was a solid up and comer Payton was familiar with.

Dennis Allen will be a successful HC in a few years. He's still very very young.

Agree PC should be calling plays.

Which brings me back to the point I was making...

Whats the common denominator?

Hint, he spells his name differently that Peyton Manning.
I'll answer that question with his favourite quote...

Credit "insert team name"
We didn't execute
We'll check the tape and get it sorted
Any questions?
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To be fair, Rob's defenses sucked for 3 straight years.
To be fair, Rob's defense was ranked No. 4 his first year, no?!?
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I just can't put my finger on what moves we haven't tried...
Well, on offense, we've shifted personnel on that side of the ball, specifically the line, toward mass and @ss and left the athletic linemen aside...

Yet the playcalling is still for the previous regime of personnel...

Power running is 2-3 yards and a cloud of dust, and we seemed to lose patience with it even though we were up 6-3 when we were still running the ball...
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Okay, allow me to rephrase...

Showing their ineptitude at trying to fix the defense.
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