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ChrisXVI 09-15-2017 08:08 PM

Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 

Do it!!!

jnormand 09-15-2017 08:11 PM

Re: Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 
Idk. I'd rather keep him.

ChrisXVI 09-15-2017 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 764168)
Idk. I'd rather keep him.

Why? Do you enjoy terrible zone coverage and personal foul penalties?

Lord_Saint83 09-15-2017 08:24 PM

Re: Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 764169)
Why? Do you enjoy terrible zone coverage and personal foul penalties?


Well none of em are playing great in coverage back there.

spkb25 09-15-2017 08:37 PM

Re: Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 
it is laconfera...ive never seen him correct

jnormand 09-15-2017 08:39 PM

Re: Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 764169)
Why? Do you enjoy terrible zone coverage and personal foul penalties?

Maybe I do Chris. Do you enjoy asking condescending questions and being a dick? Lol!

AllSaints 09-15-2017 08:40 PM

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I like Kenny V but he never makes the big game changing play the forced fumble... int... he makes the tackle yeah... after the ball is caught... but he will be gone after this season anyway... if we could get something actually to help another position I'm all about it !

Beastmode 09-15-2017 08:53 PM

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Did not bring to the table what was projected. He's average. The big plays are not there from where he was pulled. Not bad but certainly nothing special.

neugey 09-15-2017 09:27 PM

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I wonder if we missed the boat and should have moved him to linebacker. It worked for Mark Barron and Deone Bucannon.

CharityMike 09-15-2017 09:40 PM

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Hmmm :popcorn:

ChrisXVI 09-15-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 764173)
Maybe I do Chris. Do you enjoy asking condescending questions and being a dick? Lol!

That's fair... I did sound rude. I apologize for that. I've just kind of soured on Vaccaro quite a bit and that PED suspension put it over the edge. When we didn't reach a long-term deal with him before the season I had a feeling he was a goner.

jnormand 09-15-2017 10:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 764199)
That's fair... I did sound rude. I apologize for that. I've just kind of soured on Vaccaro quite a bit and that PED suspension put it over the edge. When we didn't reach a long-term deal with him before the season I had a feeling he was a goner.

Dude I was laughing so hard when I responded with that. Lmao!

The Dude 09-15-2017 11:54 PM

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If we can get a solid offensive lineman sure.

FinSaint 09-16-2017 03:38 AM

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A change of scenery and scheme might do him wonders, as was the case with Jenkins.

For example, replace Sendejo from the Vikes with Vaccaro and he probably would end up getting some pro bowl nods.

I do like some aspects of the player Vaccaro is, but maybe it's just the potential I like rather than what the reality is.

hagan714 09-16-2017 03:55 AM

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KV is a great safety in a 3 safety. I love him as a pest. But is he worth the market value for a team with so pieces still needed?

Kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21 million?

MatthewT 09-16-2017 05:44 AM

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Vaccaro and Peterson to the Seahawks for Jimmy Graham. With Graham the Saints would have their TD machine back.

jeanpierre 09-16-2017 06:34 AM

Report: Teams engaged in trade talks with Saints for Kenny Vaccaro
 
Nevermind, ChrisXVI caught it...

jeanpierre 09-16-2017 06:36 AM

Re: Report: Teams engaged in trade talks with Saints for Kenny Vaccaro
 
Bump

jeanpierre 09-16-2017 07:45 AM

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But you gotta consider the source of this story - and I'd hardly say we're overloaded; if anything, we've got balanced staff there...


ChrisXVI 09-16-2017 08:13 AM

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There won't be any drop-off from Vaccaro to Vonn Bell. Trade Vaccaro, gain roughly $5 million in cap space and a good draft pick. Then sign Erik Harris back off the Raiders practice squad for depth.

spkb25 09-16-2017 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 764275)
There won't be any drop-off from Vaccaro to Vonn Bell. Trade Vaccaro, gain roughly $5 million in cap space and a good draft pick. Then sign Erik Harris back off the Raiders practice squad for depth.

Bell has looked horrible, there will be drop off. He was replaced by a rookie

vpheughan 09-16-2017 09:05 AM

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Dudes! I laughed so hard at him laughing so hard while he asked you that!!

ChrisXVI 09-16-2017 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 764281)
Bell has looked horrible, there will be drop off. He was replaced by a rookie

Replaced at the FS position... As a box safety they're very comparable.

Euphoria 09-16-2017 09:58 AM

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I am ok trading him.

I don't know why we keep ignoring the fact this team needs an overhaul/rebuild. And we need to start with the Oline and Dline. People ignore that football is played in the trenches to much because they want the stud-flashy-players (role players). We need dirty/nasty big men on the lines who can block for our QB and RB's and be able to create havoc on opposing offenses. Then we can worry about the the flashy guys.

At this point everyone is expendable... including Brees. Get Houston on the phone!

Rugby Saint II 09-16-2017 10:09 AM

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I'm afraid that we've seen the best from KV and it's not what I had hoped for.

brees84 09-16-2017 10:20 AM

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Kenny Vaccaro: opposing tight ends best friend on the field.

hagan714 09-16-2017 11:08 AM

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unlike in years past this is a good year for SS in the 2018 draft

Ronnie Harrison, SS Alabama 6011 214 4.57 #15 Jr
Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr
Marcus Allen SS/FS Penn State 6012 202 4.55 #2 Sr
Adonis Alexander SS/OLB Virginia Tech 6026 195 #36 Sr
Tre Flowers SS/FS Oklahoma ST 6021 198 #31 rSr
Steven Parker SS/FS Oklahoma 6002 204 4.58 #10 Sr

FA is not looking too bad to boot

Rell&Gold 09-16-2017 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 764174)
I like Kenny V but he never makes the big game changing play the forced fumble... int... he makes the tackle yeah... after the ball is caught... but he will be gone after this season anyway... if we could get something actually to help another position I'm all about it !

News Flash! Saints Forum we have NO defensive players make game changing plays....its been a while.

Rell&Gold 09-16-2017 05:40 PM

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Saints draft Duds not Studs

Danno 09-16-2017 06:25 PM

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Wow, and half you clowns bashed Harper.

jeanpierre 09-16-2017 06:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 764228)
If we can get a solid offensive lineman sure.

Trade a starting strong safety for a backup offensive lineman?

Know the injuries have everyone, including yours truly, flummoxed; the only starters we really need right now maybe a defensive tackle, defensive end or a cornerback...

That is assuming one doesn't consider the current starters starting quality...

Of course the want list could change if Willie Snead IV isn't retained, then we'll need a WR as it won't be long before Ted Ginn starts dropping passes (and that will have it's own thread)...

Danno 09-16-2017 06:33 PM

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I hope its for a pick, not a player.

No one is gonna let a quality OT go after game 1.

Well... maybe Cleveland, but I digress.

spkb25 09-17-2017 08:07 AM

Re: Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 764288)
I am ok trading him.

I don't know why we keep ignoring the fact this team needs an overhaul/rebuild. And we need to start with the Oline and Dline. People ignore that football is played in the trenches to much because they want the stud-flashy-players (role players). We need dirty/nasty big men on the lines who can block for our QB and RB's and be able to create havoc on opposing offenses. Then we can worry about the the flashy guys.

At this point everyone is expendable... including Brees. Get Houston on the phone!

Oline and dline no doubt. Agree 100%. I am not against trading him but there will be a drop off from kv to bell.

The minny game was a story about getting whooped on both sides of the ball at the line. Doesn't excuse the gaping holes on the backend, but Sam was making something to eat back there

spkb25 09-17-2017 08:07 AM

Re: Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 764284)
Replaced at the FS position... As a box safety they're very comparable.

I didn't see us playing three safeties, did we?

spkb25 09-17-2017 08:09 AM

Re: Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 764318)
I hope its for a pick, not a player.

No one is gonna let a quality OT go after game 1.

Well... maybe Cleveland, but I digress.

laugh at cleveland all we want, but right now their future looks brighter than hours. Maybe that will change in the next 8 hours, but right now...

hagan714 09-17-2017 09:04 AM

Re: Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 764318)
I hope its for a pick, not a player.

No one is gonna let a quality OT go after game 1.

Well... maybe Cleveland, but I digress.

OH yeah need them picks. great draft this year at positions of need.

Cruize 09-17-2017 09:10 AM

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Might as well get something for him. He won't be a Saint next year. Although, unless the Chiefs step up, I see the market as low. Off field issues. In the box safety. Contract up.

CheramieIII 09-17-2017 09:10 AM

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I don't think we should trade him. We finally have some good depth at safety and they want to throw it away. Worry about signing him next year. They always make the numbers work. Keep building the team not get a foundation built and tear it down before you make the second floor.

WillSaints81 09-17-2017 03:47 PM

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Well, I think we now can see one of the locker room cancers. And his play today on two potential turnovers sealed it for me. He can go.

Rsanders24 09-17-2017 04:02 PM

Re: Saints Engaged in Vacarro Trade Talks
 
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 764648)
Well, I think we now can see one of the locker room cancers. And his play today on two potential turnovers sealed it for me. He can go.

The question should be why we keep having these cancers....maybe he has something to say and a backbone. If we do move him I'm sure he will become an all pro safety.

After watching these two games I see that we don't put our players in position to make plays.


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