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We are not just bad on Defense..we are Steve Spagnulo bad. Vikings total offense 476 yrds. Patriots total offense 566 yrds. That's 1042 yrds of offense given up in TWO games.

How can we go from so much positive in the off season and looking like we did in the preseason to this? So is it the players? I don't think for a second it is. This coaching staff is done.

Offense looks so out of whack is a shame. This whole AP thing has ruined our running game. We are to worried about touches instead of playing ball. Play calling is a yawn fest. So boring, so predictable. we are not fooling anyone anymore.

Defense is just straight lost. We can't play zone, we can't play man. What else is there? Our db's with the exception of Lattimore, look like they don't know how to cover anyone. This is just disgusting.

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Time to rip it apart and start over. Need a complete house cleaning, front office and entire coaching staff need to go.

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They need to take that Fkn pingpong table out the locker room and let them compete in a game of play diagnosis/recognition!

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Spagnulo bad would actually be an improvement at this point.

We just allowed Tom to have the best first quarter of his career. That's pretty sad when you consider the length of Tom's tenure plus some of the horrible defenses the AFC has fielded in the 21st century.

Tony Romo was reading our coverage like a book. He'd probably unretire if someone told him he could play vs our defense every week.

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don't pick on spags he is fine in NY. We gave that guy **** to work with and 0 time to get it together. stupid

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So five Coach's were fired during the off-season.......looks' as if that didn't
solve any problems. Old man Brady was running on the field he couldn't wait
to get back in and run up his stats. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.

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#+%*#%@^

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And SP fired him because he wanted to stick it to the NFL for being suspended and wanted to come back with a "bang."

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We don't have enough superstars on defense. Klein may be solid, but he can't do what a superstar can do. It's a superstar's league now.

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Week 3: "must win" yeesh

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Well I wish I could find some sign of hope but I simply can't.... surely it can't get any worse ??

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I said it early on. Week 1 was a must win. This team has seen a lot of defeat the past several years and they have to be getting tired of it mentally. Yes I know there are new players but that losing and desperate vibe flows through the locker room. they need to feel a win. If we can win the next two AND show improvement and cohesiveness we may just still have a shot. Lose next week and it's over .
Payton has wasted the latter half of a HOF QB career. He is the one common denominator. He needs to go.

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is it sad for me to be honest that I don't want SP to win if it means keeping him. unless we were going to make the playoffs i'd rather just lose so we fire him. four years and same tired product.

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I knew our defense would be bad today... We all did. But the Patriots defense is awful, and I thought this offense should be able to reach the thirties against them. What do they do? They put up over 400 yards and score 20 big ol' points.

Meaningless stats leading to meaningless offensive rankings, but not nearly enough points when they need them. Yep, this all sounds familiar.

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I NEVER want to lose a game. If I ever get to the point that I ever wish for my Saints to lose I would just as soon be hit by a truck.

:confused:

What the hell?

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if it is win and keep SP for another year when the wins do not amount to playoffs, no thanks

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Missing Snead is huge. He has been Mr. Automatic 3rd Down Conversion.

The inability to convert on 3rd downs has been the culprit on offense.

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Man you not lying. our Offense looks so stagnate this year. Unimaginative is the word that fits best. Our O line is also a mess. So with a offense that can't score points and a defense that can't stop anything, this is a recipe for failure.

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There in lies the difference, my friend.

I watch my Saints, as I have for 50 years, for the game to game entertainment value. Win or lose I love my Saints. I also know that there is nothing I can do to change anything about present or future outcomes. I get into the games as they unfold, of course. But then I let it be until the next week or the next season as I know I have no impact whatsoever on anything to do with the success or failure of my Saints.

Can't wait until next week!

14-2, Baby!

:bng:

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Ok, that still doesn't help the defense get any better. Even with Snead this offense isn't good enough to score enough points to keep up with even a mediocre team. The defense needs to help. We've tried to rely on the ole "we will just outscore them" approach for too long. Brees is past that point in his career and he doesn't have enough help on the offensive line to make up for it.

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That's good

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willie snead is not the reason for the offensive woes. Oline is, which you were torn to shreds for being concerned about the depth...

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No, Snead alone is not the issue with the offense. But, add to Snead the missing starting left and right tackles and that might have something to do with the inability to convert on those 3rd downs.

Right?

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Missing Snead doesn't help, but it's not enough of an excuse. The Patriots offense seems fine without Edelman.

When things are going good, Brees is a genius and makes average players look better. When things are bad, we suddenly cannot live without a receiver who we picked up off the scrapheap. Don't get me wrong, I like Willie as a player. But we can't fall apart all because he isn't playing.

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i don't know you said "Armistead who" when discussing Ryan Ram...so can't be that. Plus you said we were better off for losing Armistead since it would cause more cohesion. Guess you were wrong, again. Told you then that losing starters is a bad thing."

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I don't know what everyone expected after seeing the bullets fly against the Vikes.

What we have is a young D trying to find themselves and learning as they go. I never read much into the offseason all those are is garbage. You don't get tested in preseason you get tested when the bullets are flying. I hope they figured out that when you have talent on the Oline you don't let them go because you don't want to pay them what they are worth. Those are the guys who win you football games.

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old as the NFL, Dominate the trehcnhes

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You know I never said that losing a starter isn't a bad thing. That is foolish. What I said was if something bad happens you have to look at what positives can be gained from it. Ramczyk is gaining very valuable experience. Not under the most ideal of situations, but valuable none the less.

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No, I don't have to look for the positive because I don't have any control over the team or who plays. Told you losing nick and armistead were going to hurt because starters are starters for a reason. Told you boss.Now you are seeing I was right

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And the whole thing about third down conversions...why does it always have to be third down conversions? Is that what this offense relies on? I just think Payton needs to go. I'm sick of all the malfunctioning issues on offense.

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Patriots are missing lots themselves... it's merely an excuse. The coaching is not up to par anymore. Some of the players have quit listening. The attitude of the players during the game spelled volumes. So sad. I wish it were different... it just isn't.

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People tend to bring up third downs a lot, but it's such an obvious statement to say that if we struggle on third down, we're going to struggle in general. Of course you have to convert on third down. But is it just third downs? What are we doing on first and second down to set up more manageable third downs?

That's what people miss when they just make blanket statements about needing to convert on third down. We're just not good enough, right now, and that means we're not getting it done on any down.

I'm tired of the malfunctioning as well, Will. We do have some injuries that aren't helping, but this kind of play is not terribly new, regardless.

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We know its you spags the jig is up. Thats sp in. (SPkb) theres for see.

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you know what is funny he was working with corey white and prob at corners, lol

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Exactly what I wanted to point out. At one point, they were down to two receivers and had a fullback spread out. They still made our defense look like melting butter.

The only positive I can take away from today is how surprisingly great Romo was as a color commentator. Too bad we'll be back to Kenny "the corpse" Albert next week probably.

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As I sit self-medicating, I can't help but wax nostalgic for the days of dependability on offense like, Deuce and Colston.

It's going to be a loooong season. Thank GOD for whiskey!

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+1. Brady was missing his biggest WR target underneath ... Edelman in addition to Amendola & Hightower. Tom still sliced us up with back up RB/FB's (Burkhead) on simple passing routes.

This team has run out of excuses.

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Nothing like the pain of crushed expectations. We were supposed to lose these games, but the manner of losing was just terrible. Injuries helped, but Patriots played without there 3 starting wide receivers and Bellicheck had a plan. Really a sad start to the season.

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It's called no talent. Missing on free agents and missing on draft picks in last 5 years. It doesn't matter who the DC is on this team. Payton, Loomis and now Ireland all responsible. Now offense has regressed, so having to see more of the defense.