It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees

jeanpierre · 09-19-2017, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Omar Khan.

He's a smart guy (Tulane educated), home grown and has a solid track record.

Meh, those were some awful drafts under Mike Ditka and Jim Haslett; and I'm not so sure Omar hasn't benefited from the scenery more than his own making...

We do some tweaking with reducing Payton's GM authority, make Jeff Ireland the GM, hell, bring Parcells in as Team President if that's what it takes...

spkb25 · 09-19-2017, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

I live in Houston, so I know a little, not much about the Texans, but the Texans would would all give Brees their body parts to join this team, because they're one of about 20 or so teams that has everything else BUT a great QB.

I guess some of you are too young to remember what its like to have a great rest-of-the-team-even-a-great kicker, but at QB, have an Aaron Brooks or a Jim Everett or a Dave Wilson or some assorted Billy Joes.

Drew Brees'es dont grow on trees, people.

Even a guy named Bobby Hebert, (who was actually one of our 2** best pre-Brees QBs*** ) agrees with me.

It would be CRAZY to unload Drew Brees.

** Somewhere, on our board, there could be some millenial kid, playing with his phone, who doesnt know the name ARCHIE. Dont laugh. 60% of America cant name 3 branches of govt.

*** Bobby was actually pretty damn good, and tough as nails. Dont be hatin, fellow old guys. You were screamin for them to put him in, when we had Dave Wilson, so put a sock in it. And we all felt like we had a chance, when Bobby was in there. Did you feel like that with Richard Todd? Yeah, ok I thought Todd would do it for us too. nevermind. But he was 10X better than Stabler- so simma down now !

Dude do not get it twisted, I know how good Drew is. He may end up leading the NFL in pass yards all time. He is going to the hall fo fame first ballot. I think what people are saying is we need to rebuild this team. We aren't winning with drew. We may never have another drew brees, but you can apparently win in the nfl without a drew brees at the helm.

spkb25 · 09-19-2017, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

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We do some tweaking with reducing Payton's GM authority, make Jeff Ireland the GM, hell, bring Parcells in as Team President if that's what it takes...

For what purpose?

spkb25 · 09-19-2017, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Brees has a no trade clause in his contract. The Saints will be the last team he will ever play for. He has stressed that on numerous occasions.

That's good, every athlete says **** like that.

SmashMouth · 09-21-2017, 05:07 PM

AsylumGuido · 09-21-2017, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

That's good, every athlete says **** like that.

Brees isn't "every athlete," in case you haven't noticed. I believe him when he says he plans to retire as a Saint. That's a big reason why he wants to continue with year to year contracts.

WillSaints81 · 09-22-2017, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Don't cut bait. We've got new leadership throughout this team. Our new additions have all been beneficial. Whether they are coaches, players or front office. It's a new team that needs time to become a collective unit.

I believe that Payton needs to be reigned in and let Loomis be an accountant and have a real football GM.

No GM wants to feel like he has less power than a HC.

WillSaints81 · 09-22-2017, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

No, we need a up-and-comer, not some recycled coach who has been out of the league for some time.

ChrisXVI · 09-22-2017, 04:49 PM

Maybe we shouldn't have kicked Rita out of the organization if she was the only one willing to challenge Payton.

neugey · 09-22-2017, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

No thanks. Sean Payton already has me terrified.

09-19-2017, 02:27 PM	#51
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by K Major Omar Khan. He's a smart guy (Tulane educated), home grown and has a solid track record. Meh, those were some awful drafts under Mike Ditka and Jim Haslett; and I'm not so sure Omar hasn't benefited from the scenery more than his own making... We do some tweaking with reducing Payton's GM authority, make Jeff Ireland the GM, hell, bring Parcells in as Team President if that's what it takes...

09-19-2017, 05:37 PM	#52
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by skymike I live in Houston, so I know a little, not much about the Texans, but the Texans would would all give Brees their body parts to join this team, because they're one of about 20 or so teams that has everything else BUT a great QB. I guess some of you are too young to remember what its like to have a great rest-of-the-team-even-a-great kicker, but at QB, have an Aaron Brooks or a Jim Everett or a Dave Wilson or some assorted Billy Joes. Drew Brees'es dont grow on trees, people. Even a guy named Bobby Hebert, (who was actually one of our 2 best pre-Brees QBs* ) agrees with me. It would be CRAZY to unload Drew Brees. Somewhere, on our board, there could be some millenial kid, playing with his phone, who doesnt know the name ARCHIE. Dont laugh. 60% of America cant name 3 branches of govt. * Bobby was actually pretty damn good, and tough as nails. Dont be hatin, fellow old guys. You were screamin for them to put him in, when we had Dave Wilson, so put a sock in it. And we all felt like we had a chance, when Bobby was in there. Did you feel like that with Richard Todd? Yeah, ok I thought Todd would do it for us too. nevermind. But he was 10X better than Stabler- so simma down now ! Dude do not get it twisted, I know how good Drew is. He may end up leading the NFL in pass yards all time. He is going to the hall fo fame first ballot. I think what people are saying is we need to rebuild this team. We aren't winning with drew. We may never have another drew brees, but you can apparently win in the nfl without a drew brees at the helm.

09-19-2017, 05:38 PM	#53
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by jeanpierre . We do some tweaking with reducing Payton's GM authority, make Jeff Ireland the GM, hell, bring Parcells in as Team President if that's what it takes... For what purpose?

09-19-2017, 05:40 PM	#54
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Brees has a no trade clause in his contract. The Saints will be the last team he will ever play for. He has stressed that on numerous occasions. That's good, every athlete says **** like that.

09-21-2017, 05:07 PM	#55
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees skymike and WhoDat!656 like this.

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09-21-2017, 05:36 PM	#56
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by spkb25 That's good, every athlete says **** like that. Brees isn't "every athlete," in case you haven't noticed. I believe him when he says he plans to retire as a Saint. That's a big reason why he wants to continue with year to year contracts.

09-22-2017, 03:31 PM	#57
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Don't cut bait. We've got new leadership throughout this team. Our new additions have all been beneficial. Whether they are coaches, players or front office. It's a new team that needs time to become a collective unit. I believe that Payton needs to be reigned in and let Loomis be an accountant and have a real football GM. No GM wants to feel like he has less power than a HC.

09-22-2017, 03:48 PM	#58
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by SmashMouth No, we need a up-and-comer, not some recycled coach who has been out of the league for some time. neugey likes this.

09-22-2017, 04:49 PM	#59
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Maybe we shouldn't have kicked Rita out of the organization if she was the only one willing to challenge Payton. SmashMouth likes this.

09-22-2017, 05:40 PM	#60
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by SmashMouth No thanks. Sean Payton already has me terrified.

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