Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins

Rell&Gold · 09-20-2017, 08:23 AM

Teo' or Anzalone haven't shown me anything to solodify their roster spot at this point. Anzalone has been getting abused like a baby in coverage since pre-season

hagan714 · 09-20-2017, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Teo' or Anzalone haven't shown me anything to solodify their roster spot at this point. Anzalone has been getting abused like a baby in coverage since pre-season

Anzalone is a rookie. DA is not going all out like we all thought he would. I have a gut feeling the loss of Delvin Breaux may have some thing to do with.

I still would love to see Klien at MLB more if we can find SLB

Rell&Gold · 09-20-2017, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Anzalone is a rookie. DA is not going all out like we all thought he would. I have a gut feeling the loss of Delvin Breaux may have some thing to do with.

I still would love to see Klien at MLB more if we can find SLB

Anzalone being a rookie is supposed to help me ignore the fact that he's been a liability in coverage

Utah_Saint · 09-20-2017, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Anzalone being a rookie is supposed to help me ignore the fact that he's been a liability in coverage

The Saints defense is a liability in coverage.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2017, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

The Saints defense is a liability in coverage.

Anyone trying to cover Gronk is a liability in coverage.

K Major · 09-20-2017, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Anyone trying to cover Gronk is a liability in coverage.

AG,
We get it with Gronk. He's a beast, arguably the best in the NFL and has been for a while however that Saints defense has been a liability for years.

We gave up over 470 yards of offense to the Vikings in Week 1. Week 2, we gave up over 500 yards of offense to the Pats in the dome. Dennis Allen defense is giving up over 50% conversions on 3rd downs (that's the equivalent of 1 out of 9 drives), while allowing points on 2/3rds of possessions. That's flat out awful & unheard of. We still have Cam, Stafford & Rodgers who are good to elite quarterbacks.

I'm as optimistic as the next man but we have serious issues on defense & a very unkind schedule with QB's capable of embarrassing us (see Bradford and Brady), even Jay Cutler.

Utah_Saint · 09-20-2017, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Anyone trying to cover Gronk is a liability in coverage.

You're right. Gronk is special. But even if you take Gronk's numbers out, the Saints have still given up 661 yards in the air in two games. That would still be 31st in the league.

hagan714 · 09-21-2017, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Anyone trying to cover Gronk is a liability in coverage.

The only way to really minimize Gronk is a big fast SS which Kenny is not. Kenny is not fast nor is he big. He is a quick pest best up at the line. No I will not pull out my drum and start beating it, its in the shop getting ready for the draft. good year for SS.

My 2 favs to bang around with top TEs in the NFL are

Ronnie Harrison SS/FS/CB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr
Tre Flowers SS/FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 Sr

One with upside in coverage or one out to prove he has the coverage skills
Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr

All three are lights out hitters. They love making players blow snot bubbles.

You never stop Gronk you can only hope to minimize his impact. Kenny is not the answer

hagan714 · 09-21-2017, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Anzalone being a rookie is supposed to help me ignore the fact that he's been a liability in coverage

No but I was going for hope

. Looking at his play I see the saints once again getting caught asking a LB to cover too long with no pass rush. They have a long history of asking fast LB to do this.

ChrisXVI · 09-20-2017, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Teo' or Anzalone haven't shown me anything to solodify their roster spot at this point. Anzalone has been getting abused like a baby in coverage since pre-season

Not true. Anzalone has done very well. Are we really going to give up on him because he struggled against Brady/Gronkowski?

09-20-2017, 08:27 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Teo' or Anzalone haven't shown me anything to solodify their roster spot at this point. Anzalone has been getting abused like a baby in coverage since pre-season Anzalone is a rookie. DA is not going all out like we all thought he would. I have a gut feeling the loss of Delvin Breaux may have some thing to do with. I still would love to see Klien at MLB more if we can find SLB

09-20-2017, 11:26 AM	#4
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Anzalone being a rookie is supposed to help me ignore the fact that he's been a liability in coverage The Saints defense is a liability in coverage. jnormand likes this.

09-20-2017, 11:34 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,498	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Originally Posted by Utah_Saint The Saints defense is a liability in coverage. Anyone trying to cover Gronk is a liability in coverage. hagan714 likes this.

09-20-2017, 12:04 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,747 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Anyone trying to cover Gronk is a liability in coverage. AG, We get it with Gronk. He's a beast, arguably the best in the NFL and has been for a while however that Saints defense has been a liability for years. We gave up over 470 yards of offense to the Vikings in Week 1. Week 2, we gave up over 500 yards of offense to the Pats in the dome. Dennis Allen defense is giving up over 50% conversions on 3rd downs (that's the equivalent of 1 out of 9 drives), while allowing points on 2/3rds of possessions. That's flat out awful & unheard of. We still have Cam, Stafford & Rodgers who are good to elite quarterbacks. I'm as optimistic as the next man but we have serious issues on defense & a very unkind schedule with QB's capable of embarrassing us (see Bradford and Brady), even Jay Cutler. jnormand, Rsanders24 and dizzle88 like this.

09-20-2017, 01:19 PM	#7
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Anyone trying to cover Gronk is a liability in coverage. You're right. Gronk is special. But even if you take Gronk's numbers out, the Saints have still given up 661 yards in the air in two games. That would still be 31st in the league.

09-20-2017, 08:23 AM	#1
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Teo' or Anzalone haven't shown me anything to solodify their roster spot at this point. Anzalone has been getting abused like a baby in coverage since pre-season Rsanders24 likes this.

09-20-2017, 11:07 AM	#3
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Originally Posted by hagan714 Anzalone is a rookie. DA is not going all out like we all thought he would. I have a gut feeling the loss of Delvin Breaux may have some thing to do with. I still would love to see Klien at MLB more if we can find SLB Anzalone being a rookie is supposed to help me ignore the fact that he's been a liability in coverage hagan714 likes this.

09-21-2017, 04:23 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Anyone trying to cover Gronk is a liability in coverage. The only way to really minimize Gronk is a big fast SS which Kenny is not. Kenny is not fast nor is he big. He is a quick pest best up at the line. No I will not pull out my drum and start beating it, its in the shop getting ready for the draft. good year for SS. My 2 favs to bang around with top TEs in the NFL are Ronnie Harrison SS/FS/CB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr Tre Flowers SS/FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 Sr One with upside in coverage or one out to prove he has the coverage skills Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr All three are lights out hitters. They love making players blow snot bubbles. You never stop Gronk you can only hope to minimize his impact. Kenny is not the answer
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins Last edited by hagan714; 09-21-2017 at 04:33 AM..

09-21-2017, 03:57 AM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Anzalone being a rookie is supposed to help me ignore the fact that he's been a liability in coverage No but I was going for hope . Looking at his play I see the saints once again getting caught asking a LB to cover too long with no pass rush. They have a long history of asking fast LB to do this.
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09-20-2017, 08:28 AM	#10
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Trade LB Stephone Anthony to Dolphins Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Teo' or Anzalone haven't shown me anything to solodify their roster spot at this point. Anzalone has been getting abused like a baby in coverage since pre-season Not true. Anzalone has done very well. Are we really going to give up on him because he struggled against Brady/Gronkowski? FinSaint likes this.

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