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SaintGnome 09-26-2017 08:15 PM

So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
So AP. Under whelming so far to be sure.

Disclaimers (in advance) : Not enough carries. Used in obvious running situations. Virtually no preseason time to get in rhythm. Not given space (DL/LB on him on as he gets the ball), what else, poor run support by the O-line (kind of the same thing as the last excuse/reason, right?)

Observations: He seems as strong as ever. He is fiery, and he wants to contribute. That being said he doesn't seem to have that 5th gear, that speed burst that made him the monster that he was. OK, you can say our O-line isn't doing our running game any favors, and maybe not....but Ingram and Kamara seem to be able to find running lanes... yet AP has not.

I'm reminded of a joke a Cowboy friend of mine had of a running back (I forget which, it was years ago) but if we need 3 yards we can count on our RB. If we need 4 yards we can count on our RB for 3 yds. That's what I feel about AP. I hope I am wrong.
Anyone have any other thoughts?

ScottF 09-26-2017 08:19 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
complete waste
like having a second d*** but only one girlfriend

jnormand 09-26-2017 08:23 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 766836)
complete waste
like having a second d*** but only one girlfriend

Bahahaha!

Perfect analogy!

rezburna 09-26-2017 08:30 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 766836)
complete waste
like having a second d*** but only one girlfriend

I don't know, depending on your girlfriend there's a way to utilize the extra appendage. ��

SaintGnome 09-26-2017 08:36 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Wow, OK. So all of your observations are worthy of press releases. I'm sorry my post wasn't....what?

frydaddy 09-26-2017 08:44 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
True he may not have the explosion he once did, but the ability is still there. I thought last week he looked like he was finally beginning to find himself within this offense. There's also something to be said for the coaches needing to learn and understand how to utilize this 3 headed monster we've got at RB, and it seemed like maybe they're starting to get that figured out too. Still a whole lotta season left to play and I think his role will start to expand a bit. And if history repeats itself there may be some games where we're gonna need him to step in and be the starter. Don't give up on the old guy yet, there's still some gas left.

saintfan 09-26-2017 08:47 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 766836)
complete waste
like having a second d*** but only one girlfriend

:lolup:

:banana: :banana:

Seer1 09-26-2017 09:22 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 766843)
Wow, OK. So all of your observations are worthy of press releases. I'm sorry my post wasn't....what?

So sorry! Welcome to the ADD poster child of the Saints... SQUIRREL!!!

saintshrimp 09-26-2017 09:33 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Hasnt been really given a chance to succeed.1 carry here one carry there isnt the way to use the guy. Sean doesnt run the ball often enough for any back to succeed to be honest. His style of runninf is done with screen passes.

foreverfan 09-26-2017 09:47 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 766836)
complete waste
like having a second d*** but only one girlfriend

We could have a third d*** too. Do we more girl friends with more nipples?
Ok... you know some of you want to see this.

http://www.rawayurveda.com/wp-conten...57616nk48g.jpg

jnormand 09-26-2017 09:51 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Good gawd FF. Lol

SmashMouth 09-26-2017 11:17 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 766836)
complete waste
like having a second d*** but only one girlfriend

Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 766841)
I don't know, depending on your girlfriend there's a way to utilize the extra appendage. ��

Pray tell.... :popcorn:

QBREES9 09-27-2017 12:01 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Never thought we needed him, So if he has to go, then go.

CharityMike 09-27-2017 12:44 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 766854)
Hasnt been really given a chance to succeed.1 carry here one carry there isnt the way to use the guy. Sean doesnt run the ball often enough for any back to succeed to be honest. His style of runninf is done with screen passes.

Agree.

We have seen the exact same thing with Ingram. A carry here, a carry there, he was crap. When we actually stuck to the run and using Ingram as the main runner, low and behold, he was good. This is the same thing with AP. Has he lost a bit of pep, of course, we all get older and his past injuries have taken a toll. But I am willing to bet, if Ingram gets hurt, AP will start to shine with getting more carries than, here and there.

Crusader 09-27-2017 01:55 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
I still think his time will come. Football is a lot about finding your rhythm and he hasn't really gotten there yet.

jeanpierre 09-27-2017 03:37 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Knew it wasn't going to be easy for us or him, but it's starting to looked forced...

I liked that Ingram, whom we've spent five plus years developing, moulding our scheme, led the way rushing and complementing with Kamara...

We could us a reserve 3-tech DT, I'd move AP in a second for a quality defensive lineman and bring back Darius Victor as a reserve...

|Mitch| 09-27-2017 08:15 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
I'm in the minority; but I think AP is needed... As we get later in the season, his carries will steadily increase and god forbid if Ingram catches a injury or something...

Utah_Saint 09-27-2017 10:31 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
He looked kinda slow but still very strong. Once the oline settles in, I think they'll get more use outta him. He can still take on linebackers and flatten Dbacks so if he gets the blocking up front, he should be valuable.

ScottF 09-27-2017 10:43 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 766841)
I don't know, depending on your girlfriend there's a way to utilize the extra appendage. ��

it's all about angles

ScottF 09-27-2017 10:45 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 766843)
Wow, OK. So all of your observations are worthy of press releases. I'm sorry my post wasn't....what?

?????

SaintGup 09-27-2017 11:57 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 766833)
So AP. Under whelming so far to be sure.

Disclaimers (in advance) : Not enough carries. Used in obvious running situations. Virtually no preseason time to get in rhythm. Not given space (DL/LB on him on as he gets the ball), what else, poor run support by the O-line (kind of the same thing as the last excuse/reason, right?)

Observations: He seems as strong as ever. He is fiery, and he wants to contribute. That being said he doesn't seem to have that 5th gear, that speed burst that made him the monster that he was. OK, you can say our O-line isn't doing our running game any favors, and maybe not....but Ingram and Kamara seem to be able to find running lanes... yet AP has not.

I'm reminded of a joke a Cowboy friend of mine had of a running back (I forget which, it was years ago) but if we need 3 yards we can count on our RB. If we need 4 yards we can count on our RB for 3 yds. That's what I feel about AP. I hope I am wrong.
Anyone have any other thoughts?

I think John Madden said it about a back called Walt Garrison.Not sure though.

Rugby Saint II 09-27-2017 12:37 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
He is better than Hightower as a rotational back I believe. He will find his groove and Ingram will probably miss some time with an injury. We have got to stop forcing the ball to any RB except Ingram. Feed him the ball and we can win games.

foreverfan 09-27-2017 02:51 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 766950)
it's all about angles

All of this elephant in the room, d***s and angles stuff... What are you people are talking about? :help:

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SaintGup 09-27-2017 03:42 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 766978)
All of this elephant in the room, d***s and angles stuff... What are you people are talking about? :help:

https://media1.giphy.com/media/XSQUAevZhaROM/giphy.gif

What you should worry about is if you're in a room with an elephant and his d*** is at an angle, then you have problems!😮

foreverfan 09-27-2017 07:38 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGup (Post 766985)
What you should worry about is if you're in a room with an elephant and his d*** is at an angle, then you have problems!😮

I'm safe because I only hang out with the females. :bart:

Seer1 09-27-2017 07:42 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 766951)
?????

I think he was a little flabbergasted at the speed at which we are able to go off topic.

That's actually our super power you know.

WhoDat!656 09-27-2017 07:49 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Barring an injury to Ingram or Kamara will AP finish the season with the Saints?

I feel like the Saints will attempt to trade him for some defensive line help if the opportunity arises, with a team like the Giants.

ScottF 09-27-2017 08:07 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 767027)
I think he was a little flabbergasted at the speed at which we are able to go off topic.

That's actually our super power you know.

which is all well and good until he PM'd me, starting it off with "FU2"

misread + overreaction = BLW (blocked like Will)

SmashMouth 09-27-2017 08:14 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 766978)
All of this elephant in the room, d***s and angles stuff... What are you people are talking about? :help:

https://media1.giphy.com/media/XSQUAevZhaROM/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/hMpOHYLj2Bhi8/giphy.gif

ScottF 09-27-2017 08:31 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 767044)

have they widened the goalposts?
so hard to keep up with the new rules

Seer1 09-27-2017 08:59 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 767041)
which is all well and good until he PM'd me, starting it off with "FU2"

misread + overreaction = BLW (blocked like Will)

Perhaps a sense of humor transplant should be a prerequisite to joining here. I know it makes my stay here very enjoyable.

jnormand 09-27-2017 09:21 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 767055)
Perhaps a sense of humor transplant should be a prerequisite to joining here. I know it makes my stay here very enjoyable.

You had a sense of humor transplant? Did B&G pay for that?

rezburna 09-27-2017 09:29 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
I gave it time to marinate so if anybody missed it I meant anal. I repeat, I meant she might be down for the DP. If you try it at home on your significant other and she kicks you out of the house I'm not responsible.

Halo 09-27-2017 11:15 PM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Friendly reminder.
Take break from all the part kneeling/part standing discussions.
One of our resident dirty birds made a vicious prediction in Smacktalk and ya'll too distracted to ensure he eats his dirty bird words...

Here

foreverfan 09-28-2017 06:06 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 767051)
have they widened the goalposts?
so hard to keep up with the new rules.

https://media.giphy.com/media/hMpOHYLj2Bhi8/giphy.gif

These look like some very old rules but they look widen to me.

foreverfan 09-28-2017 06:15 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 767055)
Perhaps a sense of humor transplant should be a prerequisite to joining here. I know it makes my stay here very enjoyable.

Some people are experts at pissing others off.

http://p.fod4.com/upload/aff3567c9ab...%20Creeper.gif

Seer1 09-28-2017 06:33 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 767056)
You had a sense of humor transplant? Did B&G pay for that?

No, our soon to be disappearing health care coverage for a pre-existing condition did.

On (in) the other hand, I am looking into having B&G pay for my d**k transplant. All of the talk on this thread has me thinking seriously about getting another one. Just wish my name was Vic so I could become Double D**k Vic. Has a real ring to it...

Seer1 09-28-2017 06:34 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 767097)
These look like some very old rules but they look widen to me.

Oh yeah Forever, thanks for yet another thread save. Don't know what we'd do without you!

foreverfan 09-28-2017 06:48 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 767101)
Oh yeah Forever, thanks for yet another thread save. Don't know what we'd do without you!

Yea... I'd use the other stall. ;)

foreverfan 09-28-2017 06:56 AM

Re: So, the elephant in the room: Peterson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 767099)
Just wish my name was Vic so I could become Double D**k Vic. Has a real ring to it...

On an unrelated note to this thread about foot care.

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