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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 796397)

Dante Pettis. He is a super dangerous punt returner & has vision.

Possible upgrade over TLL?

Dante Pettis | All 9 Career Punt Return Touchdowns (NCAA Record) - YouTube

Thanks for the insight, K.

Maybe he'd be a consideration if we trade down (ha) if all our targeted players are already gone by then.

One of those for me was DT Taven Bryan but I don't like that an analyst said Bryan wasn't consistent stopping the run. I am so tired of being gashed right up the middle.

So, liking DT Phillips more now. Or TE.

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 796382)

Mike is peaking at the best possible moment (Pro Day & NFL combine). Big, strong, fast & appears to be a freak of nature. He's compared well to Jimmy G. The only negative from a lot of scouts is his blocking :(.

I just don't think he'll be on the board after Day 2. Would love to have him though.

Opps, above I responded to the wrong post from you.

Thanks for the insight, K.

Maybe he'd be a consideration if we trade down (ha) if all our targeted players are already gone by then.

One of those for me was DT Taven Bryan but I don't like that an analyst said Bryan wasn't consistent stopping the run. I am so tired of being gashed right up the middle.

So, liking DT Phillips more now. Or TE.

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

Siran is a good run defender. Could become a solid contributor on special teams. Good value in later rounds of the draft.

Siran Neal DB Jacksonville State Highlights 2018 NFL Draft - YouTube

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 796516)

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/977474193670508544

My guy. Im all in on him.

If im being realistic at who could possibly be there at 27, My cloud in the first would probably look something like...

Taven Bryan - DT, Florida
Leighton Vander Esch - LB, Boise St.
DJ Moore - WR, Maryland
Harold Landry - DE, Boston College
Arden Key - DE, LSU
Connor Williams - OT/OG, Texas

I also would not be mad at....

Lamar Jackson - QB, Louisville
Jaire Alexander - CB, Louisville
Josh Jackson - CB, Iowa
Mike Hughes - CB, UCF
Uchenna Nwosu - LB/DE, USC
Christian Kirk - WR, Texas A&M
Rashaan Evans - LB, Alabama
Hayden Hurst - TE, South Carolina
Mike Gesicki - TE, Penn St.
Dallas Goedert - TE, South Dakota St.
Isaiah Wynn - OT/OG, Georgia

although plenty of those guys SHOULD be gone by pick 27 i still wanted to throw their names in bc several will fall as they do every year. If you notice guys missing from that cloud it’s because i fully believe/EXPECT them to be gone and locks for the top 20ish...
Baker Mayfield
Roquan Smith
Bradley Chubb
Marcus Davenport
Denzel Ward
Minkah Fitzpatrick
Derwin James
Vita Vea
Da’ron Payne
Tremaine Edmunds
Calvin Ridley
etc.

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 796437)

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Do you watch Inside New Orleans Sports with Eric Asher?

Mike Fazende was one of the guest last night (airs LIVE on Thursdays on WLAE at 6pm)...

I like Mike, good, humble guy with a great grasp on personnel, team fit, salary cap, and an unabashed, but honest, NOLA homer...

To paraphrase, Fazende highlighted a great point about how Vander Esch went from being a walk-On as a TE/WR to playing as an elite LB...

Vander Esch learned a new position and re-built his body, was outstandingly productive and earned first round grade in three years...

That kind of player to come from lean walk-on to top tier prospect linebacker is one who you jumps out at you and you take notice...

You factor in his SPARQ, his Combine Performance, his increase in production - this guy is the goods...

I'd also mention that unlike these Bama and UGA linebackers, he didn't have great talent around him or in front of him on his defensive line...

Evans and Smith will be solid pros, but they came from factories that mill out these guys and have superior talent around them, rarely challenged or directly targeted...

Consider Fazende's point and then you realize that this is a young man that understands adversity and challenge and has already demonstrated he can overcome it...

For me, it's Taven Bryan or Vander Esch or Bust...And I'd jump the Falcons to get either one...

How can this not excite some people???? He shows it all on tape too.

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

Since TE is popular among the Saints options this year, as it should be, My TE rankings probably go against the grain but here is how i rank the top 4 this year...

1. Hayden Hurst - South Carolina
2. Mike Gesicki - Penn State
3. Dallas Goedert - South Dakota State
4. Mark Andrews - Oklahoma

this ranking is based on how i envision each could be used in the Saints offense and who their play style reminds me of in the current NFL...

Hayden Hurst - All around athlete. Former baseball player and drafted by the Pittsburgh Pirates as a pitcher. Definitely believe he could be used the same way Travis Kelce is utilized in the Kansas City offense. plays much faster on tape than he tests and thats what matters to me. doesnt shy away from contact and shows great athleticism/speed. running/passing ability on Trick plays at south carolina immediately come to mind when thinking of his Kelce like impact. Biggest knock is the age(24/25 during the season). I wish he was 22.

Mike Gesicki - I see Jimmy Graham...frame and athletic ability is top tier at the TE position. will he have the same impact? who knows but talent is definitely there. like Jimmy, don’t expect much in the blocking lasrt of his game.

Dallas Goedert - I’ve seen/heard Ertz and Gronk comparisons thrown around but Im still upset we didnt get to see him at the combine or Senior bowl against better talent he’s accustomed to seeing. Love how smooth he is on tape but i feel like Hurst/Gesicki play faster and against better competition. Right now He’s Hunter Henry but with the right system/development he could be ertz, but i dont see gronk, maybe baby gronk. the arrow is definitely UP on him though.

Mark Andrews - Gotta like some of the things he puts on tape, good hands and finds soft spots in the defense. tested well at the combine but definitely plays slower on tape. He reminds me of witten with his route running & finding ways to get open minus the blocking.

imo Hurst, Gesicki, Goedert all rank closely with each other. I dont think either are 1st rounders...more early 2nd, but I understand if the Saints take one of ‘em in the first. although i want BPA this year.

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

Not a very flattering photo of Arden Key who looks more like a Dave Chappelle on meth than a defensive end...

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

Saints FO ... due diligence on Arden. 1st rounder? Highly unlikely.

One too many red flags with this guy.