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jeanpierre 12-14-2017 05:10 PM
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jeanpierre 12-14-2017 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 780511)
They should go ahead and put Alvin’s name on the trophy. Kamara is the definition of special player.


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Guess we'll see how Kamara bounces back after being concussed, then if even he takes one of the Rookie of the Week Awards in December, he should be the guy...

But I'll tell you, Marshon Lattimore deserves EQUAL billing and I'd LOVE to see both of them win - AND I'm NOT a participation trophy kinda guy either...

jeanpierre 12-14-2017 05:25 PM
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Consider this, by season's end Lattimore will have faced two of the top three WR in the game - twice...

jeanpierre 12-16-2017 07:17 PM
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jeanpierre 12-16-2017 07:25 PM
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jeanpierre 12-16-2017 07:45 PM
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jeanpierre 12-17-2017 08:09 AM
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Kamara needs to step up today; besides, he's my lead back on all my fantasy teams and it's the first round of FF playoffs...

Beastmode 12-17-2017 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 782691)
Kamara needs to step up today; besides, he's my lead back on all my fantasy teams and it's the first round of FF playoffs...

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/942255705452630016

That right there makes watching football today very enjoyable for me. I have Hunt and Kamara. Still can't believe I got Kamara for $1. Pretty amazing how $1 can make someone go from last place to a convincing 1st place in FF in a year.

jeanpierre 12-22-2017 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 782695)
That right there makes watching football today very enjoyable for me. I have Hunt and Kamara. Still can't believe I got Kamara for $1. Pretty amazing how $1 can make someone go from last place to a convincing 1st place in FF in a year.
Kamara had a solid game, just not a 200Yd from scrimmage game; hopefully he has that this week as I've got him in both my leagues...

One is for the championship!!!

jeanpierre 12-22-2017 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 780511)
They should go ahead and put Alvin’s name on the trophy. Kamara is the definition of special player.
Actually, I believe Lattimore deserves equal recognition for Rookie of the Year...

jeanpierre 12-22-2017 02:58 PM
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Hate to see Lattimore & Kamara knock each other out & Hunt win ROTY, but that may happen unless Lattimore & Kamara voters leave Hunt off their ballots entirely...

jeanpierre 12-22-2017 03:02 PM
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Could Lattimore catch Kamara in ROTW awards? Shutting down Julio could geaux a long way...


And I've got Julio, Kamara and Ingram in my Fantasy Championship... :doh:

Beastmode 12-22-2017 03:28 PM
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Julio is broken. May not even play. Regardless he sucks, getting old. Body can no longer deliver the goods.

K Major 12-22-2017 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 783811)
Julio is broken. May not even play. Regardless he sucks, getting old.
I hate Atlanta as much as the next man but Julio sucks? Lies.

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jeanpierre 12-22-2017 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 783815)
I hate Atlanta as much as the next man but Julio sucks? Lies.
http://www.empiresports.co/wp-conten...terback-qb.jpg

Now that's funny...

The Dude 12-22-2017 05:57 PM
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Julio is broken. May not even play. Regardless he sucks, getting old. Body can no longer deliver the goods.
Lmao. Come on now.

jeanpierre 12-22-2017 07:24 PM
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jeanpierre 12-24-2017 11:03 AM
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Hopefully Suh and company can shut down Hunt to Alvin Kamara can clinch the Offensive Rookie of the Year Award...

jeanpierre 12-25-2017 11:19 PM
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hagan714 12-26-2017 05:10 AM
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Something that has never happen. Saints pull a clean sweep

Lattimore Defensive Rookie of the year

Kamara Offensive Rookie of the year

jeanpierre 12-27-2017 10:35 AM
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44Champs 12-27-2017 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 784594)
Something that has never happen. Saints pull a clean sweep

Lattimore Defensive Rookie of the year

Kamara Offensive Rookie of the year
Curios to know if any team has ever accomplished that

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jeanpierre 12-27-2017 02:58 PM
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jeanpierre 12-27-2017 03:09 PM
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Curios to know if any team has ever accomplished that

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AP Rookie of the Year Awards

1967 Detroit Lions RB Mel Far, CB Lem Barney

jeanpierre 12-27-2017 07:40 PM
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Be sure to vote for Lattimore on the Tweety-bird-wire...

ChrisXVI 12-27-2017 08:47 PM
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http://i68.tinypic.com/wvvcjq.jpg

If anyone could clarify, I’m pretty sure the Bills defense runs primarily zone coverage (Cover 3) and White doesn’t travel with #1 WR’s. It’s the same criticism Josh Norman received playing for Sean McDermott.

jeanpierre 12-27-2017 11:06 PM
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http://i68.tinypic.com/wvvcjq.jpg

If anyone could clarify, I’m pretty sure the Bills defense runs primarily zone coverage (Cover 3) and White doesn’t travel with #1 WR’s. It’s the same criticism Josh Norman received playing for Sean McDermott.
That's a great point; I asked if any other cornerbacks had to face the level of competition that Lattimore has had to face, including Julio Jones and Mike Evans - Twice - in one season, got no response from PFF...

ChrisXVI 12-28-2017 06:16 AM
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The problem with PFF though is that they seem to be unable to tell the difference between man and zone coverage; and they’re completely lost when it comes to knowing the individual assignments within zone coverage.

For example, in the most recent game against the Failclowns they had Lattimore giving up 6 catches for 140 yards to Julio Jones. However, Brian Baldinger broke down every Julio catch from that game and only 3 were against Lattimore (2 in man and 1 in Cover 3 deep down the left sideline.)

Point being, don’t trust PFF when they’re talking about DB’s.

jeanpierre 12-28-2017 03:36 PM
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jeanpierre 12-29-2017 09:01 PM
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jeanpierre 12-31-2017 08:14 PM
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You young guys may not appreciate this comparison to Gale Sayers, but this is a very BIG DEAL...

vpheughan 12-31-2017 08:20 PM
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"ROOKIE CONTRACT" negates everything according to EGGSPURTS

K Major 12-31-2017 08:58 PM
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Kamara is part Alien. Unreal talent.

Enough speculation, it's his award.

saintfan 12-31-2017 10:57 PM
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He is amazing.

The Dude 01-01-2018 01:35 AM
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Both were sub par today. Lattimore got beat like a red headed staue in the Atlanta game and today. He gets worn down easy against elite receivers and has to take plays off.
He even signaled for Moore to take over on a couple today.

dizzle88 01-01-2018 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 785704)
Both were sub par today. Lattimore got beat like a red headed staue in the Atlanta game and today. He gets worn down easy against elite receivers and has to take plays off.
He even signaled for Moore to take over on a couple today.
How have you forgotten already what has happened in the past? Lattimore may not be perfect, but without him we'd have lost more games, guarantee it.

Why feel the need to go after two guys in their rookie seasons that have become just as vital as Brees this year?

Once again, Lattimore is;

1) A rookie
2) The best DB the Saints have had in recent memory
3) A huge reason why the saints are mid teens in Defense

Tons of teams would give up a ransom for Kamara and Lattimore and recently you've spoken about them as if they were UDFA's and didn't deserve a spot.

CheramieIII 01-01-2018 05:40 AM
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Amara offense and Lattimore defense!

CheramieIII 01-01-2018 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 785654)
You young guys may not appreciate this comparison to Gale Sayers, but this is a very BIG DEAL...

https://twitter.com/RLiuNFL/status/947589701342498818
and the Saints have the record for RB's to achieve 1500 yards from scrimmage.

QBREES9 01-01-2018 10:27 AM
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Alvin Kamara!!!!

jeanpierre 01-01-2018 11:48 AM
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