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Beastmode 10-26-2017 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 772187)
Don't like dealing with the Pats. You rarely get the better end of the deal. Be shocked if we got more than a 6th max for him

The Cooks trade i think we broke even. Barely. Cooks is money for them right now and Ramczyk for us plus we got a spare tire DE. I agree though, really don't want to trade with them. Probably the best thing we got from them was their overflow WR but that was by default since they thought they were stacked at WR and that was not even a trade. He also has not seen the field so really no value right now.

saintsfan1976 10-26-2017 09:05 AM

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Sell high.

hagan714 10-26-2017 10:29 AM

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Hightower is now out for the season. So maybe the Pats

K Major 10-26-2017 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 772448)
Hightower is now out for the season. So maybe the Pats

That one is gonna really sting down the stretch for the Pats but I'm still not counting them out. BB is a Yoda.

nola_swammi 10-26-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 772218)
I loved and miss Brandin Cooks; but more and more, I'm glad we made that trade as Ramczyk looks like a franchise anchor on that line...

I like the trade as well but NE tried to screw us cause they thought the interest in Malcolm will give them back that 1st rd pick. I am just happy that deal failed.

jeanpierre 10-26-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 772453)
I like the trade as well but NE tried to screw us cause they thought the interest in Malcolm will give them back that 1st rd pick. I am just happy that deal failed.

Patriots weren't trying to screw anyone, they were just doing like anyone with a Top 10 CB, a premium position in the NFL, would do, and that was ask for maximum compensation in return...

The only team that doesn't seem to get maximum compensation in this league is Loomis, though the Graham-Unger trade was looking good during Anthony's rookie season...

Utah_Saint 10-26-2017 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 772544)
Patriots weren't trying to screw anyone, they were just doing like anyone with a Top 10 CB, a premium position in the NFL, would do, and that was ask for maximum compensation in return...

The only team that doesn't seem to get maximum compensation in this league is Loomis, though the Graham-Unger trade was looking good during Anthony's rookie season...

It still looks good. The Saints had no significant drop in offensive production with the loss of Graham but got a probowl caliber center. Now just two years later the Seahawks are looking to trade away Graham but the Saints are still thrilled with Unger.

nola_swammi 10-26-2017 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 772544)
Patriots weren't trying to screw anyone, they were just doing like anyone with a Top 10 CB, a premium position in the NFL, would do, and that was ask for maximum compensation in return...

The only team that doesn't seem to get maximum compensation in this league is Loomis, though the Graham-Unger trade was looking good during Anthony's rookie season...

What make you think he is a top 10 corner? Is it cause the game saving pick in the super bowl? If you really watch the game, he was the one who put their game in jeopardy in the 1st place. If you go by the numbers and NFL top 10 he wasn't even mention for the season of 2016. His own team don't value him as a top 10. Why I say that you might ask, the Patriots decided to pay high dollar for a corner from another team and place him on franchise tag to only try trade him. If you need a link to the top 10 for 2016 and look at the numbers here :

Xavier Rhodes leads Top-10 No. 1 cornerbacks - NFL.com

Seer1 10-27-2017 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 772568)
What make you think he is a top 10 corner? Is it cause the game saving pick in the super bowl? If you really watch the game, he was the one who put their game in jeopardy in the 1st place. If you go by the numbers and NFL top 10 he wasn't even mention for the season of 2016. His own team don't value him as a top 10. Why I say that you might ask, the Patriots decided to pay high dollar for a corner from another team and place him on franchise tag to only try trade him. If you need a link to the top 10 for 2016 and look at the numbers here :

Xavier Rhodes leads Top-10 No. 1 cornerbacks - NFL.com

Yeah, I think his price tag was a little steep too. And the fact that he's still wearing a Pat's uniform says the Saints front office did as well. Although I've gotta say that he looked pretty good against the clowns the other night.

nola_swammi 10-27-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 772651)
Yeah, I think his price tag was a little steep too. And the fact that he's still wearing a Pat's uniform says the Saints front office did as well. Although I've gotta say that he looked pretty good against the clowns the other night.

Julio did score on him;)

Target 13, 9 receptions, 99 yards, 1td

K Major 10-27-2017 08:32 PM

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IF the Saints are serious about trading Kikaha in a player-for-player swap, I'd call the Bills about Marcell Dareus...

Bills trade Marcell Dareus to Jaguars – ProFootballTalk

rezburna 10-27-2017 08:37 PM

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How do we miss out on these kind of trades?

blackangold 10-27-2017 08:40 PM

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How do we miss out on these kind of trades?

I would have been fine with a 3rd for him... Only cost a 6th

nola_swammi 10-27-2017 11:22 PM

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The rich getting richer, dayum

FinSaint 10-28-2017 04:46 AM

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How do we miss out on these kind of trades?

I think the FO is a bit gun-shy with Bills' players after Byrd and Spiller - and for a good reason.

lee909 10-28-2017 04:57 AM

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Good damn that Jags front 7 is good.

Honestly pretty happy for them.
Hope the do well. Always like to see fan bases that suffer take steps forward.

Would have eaten loads of cap to get him here but damn he would have been a game changer at stopping the run.

jeanpierre 10-28-2017 06:04 AM

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Yeah, I saw that notice; well, at least my CBS Fantasy Team is a little better as I drafted the Jags defense...

The Jags must have the fountain of youth, because it seems they're hitting on all Free Agent Cylinders...

Now with former Tide DT Marcell Dareus, this may vault the Jags defense into Top 3 discusssion...

Had the Saints been able to get Dareus, you'd really have seen our Defensive Ends absolutely eat...

jeanpierre 10-28-2017 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 772673)
How do we miss out on these kind of trades?

Rez, give Mickey a moment to catchup and we'll address that with everyone in the room...He's been busy cramming the numbers that Drew's agent dictates to him...

jeanpierre 10-28-2017 06:11 AM

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Can't make this up > Falcons fans want to trade for Kikaha...

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2017/1...-hauoli-kikaha

CheramieIII 10-28-2017 07:08 AM

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How much do you guys think we'll really get. Hell I would settle for a 7th and a cup of coffee at Dunkin Donuts because it's better and cost half of Starbucks!

Seer1 10-28-2017 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 772694)
Can't make this up > Falcons fans want to trade for Kikaha...

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2017/1...-hauoli-kikaha

Yeah, but sure don't want any falcons fans in exchange though...

jeanpierre 10-28-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 772713)
Yeah, but sure don't want any falcons fans in exchange though...

Read the story, writer suggests a fifth round pick will get it done...

Utah_Saint 10-28-2017 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 772673)
How do we miss out on these kind of trades?

I don't think we did miss out on this one. The Bills have been shopping Darius for months. Between his bad attitude, big contract and significantly decreased production, I think most teams were hesitant to take on the headache.

K Major 10-28-2017 10:51 AM

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Darius will be fine. Couglin is back and he knows how to develop a winning franchise + the Jags are building something special on defense. Their D line is becoming dominant.

I would have loved Darius in black and gold.

st thomas 10-28-2017 12:37 PM

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what about the jimmy graham returning back to saints, that was on our local tv station. i'm serious. anyone hear that one?

Utah_Saint 10-28-2017 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 772739)
what about the jimmy graham returning back to saints, that was on our local tv station. i'm serious. anyone hear that one?

It was reported that the Saints and Seahawks were in negotiations for Graham by SPORTSTALK360. But they didn't provide any source. Benjamin Allbright of CBS Sports tweeted that there was no truth to the rumor.

Rugby Saint II 10-28-2017 02:06 PM

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Fake News.....

vpheughan 10-29-2017 09:24 AM

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Still waiting for Garropolo and Malcom Butler to suit up for the Saints! "Done Deals" if I remember correctly!

jeanpierre 10-29-2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 772739)
what about the jimmy graham returning back to saints, that was on our local tv station. i'm serious. anyone hear that one?

Think his stock just went up with that game winning score today...

nola_swammi 10-29-2017 11:23 PM

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I was against Kikaha being traded but the talent of Hendrickson can't be denied plus you have Muhammad in the waiting. Okfar is a beast = wise decision to trade Kikaha (never thought I would say that)

jeanpierre 10-30-2017 12:35 AM

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jeanpierre 10-30-2017 12:36 AM

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jeanpierre 10-30-2017 12:37 AM

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jeanpierre 10-30-2017 12:38 AM

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vpheughan 10-30-2017 10:22 AM

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From the always accurate insider, Sources! "Reports say that Reports say! "

Beware of the Eagles! Their front office guys will be going around ripping off those "Fake glasses with nose and mustache" all across the NFL!!

lee909 10-30-2017 10:27 AM

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There is definitely some smoke there
Been a healthy cut lately.

K Major 10-30-2017 02:16 PM

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Saints Trying To Find Trade Partner For OLB Hau'oli Kikaha | NFLTradeRumors.co

lee909 10-30-2017 02:24 PM

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Would make sense

Moves to the Pats
Wins superbowl
Gets 5-7 Sacks
Signs elsewhere on overpriced deal
Pats get Comp pick higher than the pick they traded

Think we have seen this before

jeanpierre 10-30-2017 02:49 PM

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ChrisXVI 10-30-2017 07:28 PM

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The trades are flowing now...




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