Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit

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It ain't over until it's over
The Saints held a 35-point lead in the second half, yet still had to hang on at home. Cam Jordan finally put the Who Dats somewhat at ease by tipping and intercepting a pass in the end zone for a score and 14-point lead late. Kenny Vaccaro's pick with less than 5 minutes left finally ended the unexpected roller-coaster ride. This is my 18th year covering the Saints and this was the wildest, wackiest game I've ever covered. The only ones remotely similar were the Saints' 52-49 win against the Giants in 2015 and their 33-30 rally vs. the Redskins in 2009.

The Saints defense, dare I say, has become a strength
The Saints put on a pretty fair impression of the Dome Patrol on Sunday, dominating the Lions and making big plays with a swagger on defense they haven't had in a while. The D set the tone with Alex Okafor’s strip-sack-fumble-recovery TD on the Lions' opening drive. Cam Jordan's interception and score put the Saints' advantage back to 14 points late. It was the first time in the Saints' 51-year history that they've scored three defensive TDs in a game.

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hagan714 · 10-15-2017, 05:12 PM

what did I learn? never drink the kool aid till the fat lady signs and never go into prevent defense at the beginning of the fourth. we do not have the talent op front to run prevent

RockyMountainSaint · 10-15-2017, 05:15 PM

I've learned that sports writers can use many words while saying nothing substantial.

dizzle88 · 10-15-2017, 05:16 PM

Drew and SP didn't heed their own message.

Drew said keep the foot on their throats and could barely complete a pass the entire second half.

blackangold · 10-15-2017, 05:22 PM

Offense looks worse than the D...

Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back.

Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season.

Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through.

WillSaints81 · 10-15-2017, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

what did I learn? never drink the kool aid till the fat lady signs and never go into prevent defense at the beginning of the fourth. we do not have the talent op front to run prevent

We went into prevent well before the fourth quarter.

We may have won, but I still believe having AP in this game would have been better so we don't end up in the situation we did.

RockyMountainSaint · 10-15-2017, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We may have won, but I still believe having AP in this game would have been better so we don't end up in the situation we did.

?????????

frydaddy · 10-15-2017, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We went into prevent well before the fourth quarter.

We may have won, but I still believe having AP in this game would have been better so we don't end up in the situation we did.

..................
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There are no words for this level of derp.

dizzle88 · 10-15-2017, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Offense looks worse than the D...

Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back.

Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season.

Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through.

Very true, we used to take shots down the field early and often in previous years.

However, I don't think the D had anything to do with the Lions come back, Ingram fumbled and Brees threw a pick 6. Then we didn't get a first down the entire second half.

The Dude · 10-15-2017, 05:49 PM

If there is any question about the Value of Armstead it should have been answered today. As soon as they pulled him out the offense started to sputter. He went back in but they never did get a chance to regroup. It has as much to do with consistency on the offensive line as it did Armstead I guess but it all started then.

I also saw a lot of short passes from Drew as well. He's getting old.

10-15-2017, 05:05 PM	#1
Threaded by SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29 Rating: (0 votes - average) It ain't over until it's over The Saints held a 35-point lead in the second half, yet still had to hang on at home. Cam Jordan finally put the Who Dats somewhat at ease by tipping and intercepting a pass in the end zone for a score and 14-point lead late. Kenny Vaccaro's pick with less than 5 minutes left finally ended the unexpected roller-coaster ride. This is my 18th year covering the Saints and this was the wildest, wackiest game I've ever covered. The only ones remotely similar were the Saints' 52-49 win against the Giants in 2015 and their 33-30 rally vs. the Redskins in 2009. The Saints defense, dare I say, has become a strength The Saints put on a pretty fair impression of the Dome Patrol on Sunday, dominating the Lions and making big plays with a swagger on defense they haven't had in a while. The D set the tone with Alex Okafor’s strip-sack-fumble-recovery TD on the Lions' opening drive. Cam Jordan's interception and score put the Saints' advantage back to 14 points late. It was the first time in the Saints' 51-year history that they've scored three defensive TDs in a game. read more on NOLA Attached Thumbnails Rugby Saint II likes this.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit what did I learn? never drink the kool aid till the fat lady signs and never go into prevent defense at the beginning of the fourth. we do not have the talent op front to run prevent Halo, foreverfan, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

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RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit I've learned that sports writers can use many words while saying nothing substantial. Halo and foreverfan like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Drew and SP didn't heed their own message. Drew said keep the foot on their throats and could barely complete a pass the entire second half. Halo, RockyMountainSaint and hagan714 like this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Offense looks worse than the D... Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back. Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season. Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through. Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.
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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by hagan714 what did I learn? never drink the kool aid till the fat lady signs and never go into prevent defense at the beginning of the fourth. we do not have the talent op front to run prevent We went into prevent well before the fourth quarter. We may have won, but I still believe having AP in this game would have been better so we don't end up in the situation we did. hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We may have won, but I still believe having AP in this game would have been better so we don't end up in the situation we did. ?????????

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frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We went into prevent well before the fourth quarter. We may have won, but I still believe having AP in this game would have been better so we don't end up in the situation we did. .................. . There are no words for this level of derp.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by blackangold Offense looks worse than the D... Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back. Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season. Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through. Very true, we used to take shots down the field early and often in previous years. However, I don't think the D had anything to do with the Lions come back, Ingram fumbled and Brees threw a pick 6. Then we didn't get a first down the entire second half. RockyMountainSaint and Thirty3 like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit If there is any question about the Value of Armstead it should have been answered today. As soon as they pulled him out the offense started to sputter. He went back in but they never did get a chance to regroup. It has as much to do with consistency on the offensive line as it did Armstead I guess but it all started then. I also saw a lot of short passes from Drew as well. He's getting old. RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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