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AsylumGuido 10-22-2017 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 771558)
Agreed with the above post.

Saints are playing just about as well as any team in the NFL right now. There isn't a team on the schedule that we wouldn't have a bona fide chance of winning.

Agree completely.

foreverfan 10-22-2017 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 771569)
or prison.

;p

WHODATINCA 10-22-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 771533)
Okay, Debbie, maybe when we win those games you can divorce the Downers, shed the negativity, and we can celebrate when you Do Dallas...

I don't think we need to get ahead of ourselves, but we came back from a pretty awful first half by Drew, and are now first in the division in Week 8 - and that's something to celebrate today...

OK, Polly Positive. I got sucked in by this team in 2013, 2014 and 2015. We'll see.

I do like our chances in the division, right now, for sure. Especially while watching the Failclowns get shut out in Foxboro.

0-2 in the first two games ... against other teams who are good .... does not exactly instill confidence. I think it's a little early for talk of the post-season.
But, trust me -- NOTHING would make me happier.

K Major 10-22-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 771586)
OK, Polly Positive. I got sucked in by this team in 2013, 2014 and 2015. We'll see.

I do like our chances in the division, right now, for sure. Especially while watching the Failclowns get shut out in Foxboro.

0-2 in the first two games ... against other teams who are good .... does not exactly instill confidence. I think it's a little early for talk of the post-season.
But, trust me -- NOTHING would make me happier.

There are a few seats left on the Saints wagon train. Climb aboard ;).

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frydaddy 10-22-2017 10:05 PM

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I understand being cautious with the optimism. God knows I've been convinced every year that we had corrected the mistakes of the previous year and we'd be good again. This team looks a lot different though. This team has shown that it can take a lickin' and keep on tickin'. That mentality was totally absent the last few years and it's hard to shake the PTSD that causes. I felt that old familiar sinking feeling after Hundley ran for that TD, but instead of going limp in the face of adversity they dug in and came back swinging. There is fight in this team again. There is talent on defense that hasn't been there in over a decade and they're playing better together all the time. The offense seems to be finding it's stride and we have a running game again. They've officially made a believer out of me and I will go ahead and put it out for all to see, for better or worse.. This team is for real, the defense is for real and we're gonna make the playoffs.

WHODATINCA 10-22-2017 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 771589)
There are a few seats left on the Saints wagon train. Climb aboard ;).

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Been here for awhile. I like my seating. I don't need to do this :pink: to actually be this: :bng:

Actually, I had an account here in 2008. Lost the password, dammit. So, re-upped in 2013.

Rell&Gold 10-22-2017 10:29 PM

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Today a game was played. A game filled with good moments and bad moments, but ultimately overcoming the bad to come out with a W IN LAMBEAU w/ inadequate weather. Cool, regardless that doesn't ERASE the potentially costly mistakes that were made. If a poster wants to talk about bad moments that WERE apart of THE GAME then so be it because at the end of the day those mistakes HAVE to be fixed in order for the Saints to play good football and make a Real run in the playoffs IF they get there. Good comeback win on the road, but the Saints still have work that needs to be done before I personally take them as a serious playoff contender. The potential is there, but its just that right now...potential. It does matter how you win and how you lose. Take the good w/ the bad because they go hand & hand.

Rell&Gold 10-22-2017 10:35 PM

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And they gave up 60-70 plus rushing yards in the second half maybe even more honestly and 150 plus total rushing w/ over 7 yards a carry....that was the most disheartening thing because the Packers didn't seem very interested in throwing the ball too much...their O seemed very limited.

Rell&Gold 10-22-2017 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 771595)
Been here for awhile. I like my seating. I don't need to do this :pink: to actually be this: :bng:

Actually, I had an account here in 2008. Lost the password, dammit. So, re-upped in 2013.

Yea, somehow if you acknowledge the saints miscues after a W your a "Bandwagon Fan"....I thought bandwagon fans were only around for the W's , but ok.

SaintGup 10-22-2017 10:41 PM

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I am not convinced. What if the opposing team scores more points than we do, huh? It's too early to start dancing. I will wait until we win the Superbowl before getting ahead of myself, thank you. I will just sit here in Hundred Acre Wood with my tail nailed to my ass! 😁

Rell&Gold 10-22-2017 10:44 PM

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Number one rule in #SaintsClub DONT talk #BadSaintsFootball #SShhh

Lls...try to dictate how people view and discuss the team that NONE of US own

AsylumGuido 10-22-2017 10:50 PM

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17-2 Baby!

:bng:

Halo 10-22-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 771607)
Number one rule in #SaintsClub DONT talk #BadSaintsFootball #SShhh

Lls...try to dictate how people view and discuss the team that NONE of US own

I don't know... we allow fans to pretty much whale against our team, and some do. Some say things that would be banned elsewhere.

If you get called out for being negative, that's what happens when you whale against the team when it's winning. It happens everywhere. Lots of fans are celebrating some wins here.... don't read many who are calling the team "perfect."

hitta 10-22-2017 10:51 PM

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Question: With the guys in our secondary playing so well, what happens when Breaux returns? I've been really impressed with Crawley. Lattimore is a beast.

AsylumGuido 10-22-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 771611)
Question: With the guys in our secondary playing so well, what happens when Breaux returns? I've been really impressed with Crawley. Lattimore is a beast.

It's called depth, hitta. Been a long time since we've had that on defense.

17-2 Baby!

:bng:

frydaddy 10-22-2017 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 771603)
And they gave up 60-70 plus rushing yards in the second half maybe even more honestly and 150 plus total rushing w/ over 7 yards a carry....that was the most disheartening thing because the Packers didn't seem very interested in throwing the ball too much...their O seemed very limited.

Actually it was 40 yards, since we're nitpicking.

Rell&Gold 10-22-2017 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 771609)
I don't know... we allow fans to pretty much whale against our team, and some do. Some say things that would be banned elsewhere.

If you get called out for being negative, that's what happens when you whale against the team when it's winning. It happens everywhere. Lots of fans are celebrating some wins here.... don't read many who are calling the team "perfect."

Speaking on what the team did and OBVIOUS adjustments that need to be made...I wouldn't call negative but to each his own....If a fan cant take a little reality with his celebratory pie then maybe they are sitting at the wrong table.....

Saying the team still has no chance would negative there is a difference. I'm the first to Admit after those pics and How Jones was running all over the Saints (Which he was)....I thought they were going to lose because they all signs were pointing at a Historic Saints collapse...I was wrong they replaced their boots and went got back to work. Should it have been that though? The mental lapses are what hurt us on top of Big plays, but they do look better and they aren't the team from last year...that's as far as I'll go with that until I'm COMPLETELY sold...If you are completely sold cool...I don't like heartache...like I said I do the see the potential though it is there.

Halo 10-22-2017 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 771624)
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 771609)
I don't know... we allow fans to pretty much whale against our team, and some do. Some say things that would be banned elsewhere.

If you get called out for being negative, that's what happens when you whale against the team when it's winning. It happens everywhere. Lots of fans are celebrating some wins here.... don't read many who are calling the team "perfect."

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Speaking on what the team did and OBVIOUS adjustments that need to be made...I wouldn't call negative but to each his own....If a fan cant take a little reality with his celebratory pie then maybe they are sitting at the wrong table.....

Saying the team still has no chance would negative there is a difference. I'm the first to Admit after those pics and How Jones was running all over the Saints (Which he was)....I thought they were going to lose because they all signs were pointing at a Historic Saints collapse...I was wrong they replaced their boots and went got back to work. Should it have been that though? The mental lapses are what hurt us on top of Big plays, but they do look better and they aren't the team from last year...that's as far as I'll go with that until I'm COMPLETELY sold...If you are completely sold cool...I don't like heartache...like I said I do the see the potential though it is there.

I never said I was completely sold. I can't and don't speak for others.
I was disappointed in some poor tackling in defensive backfield, disappointed in Brees throwing 2 INT's, and disappointed in a lot of stuff. Unfortunately if you look at the NFL, there are no absolute dominate teams.

We have a lot of room for improvement. We won a game we were supposed to win, which is very different from the previous 3 or 4 seasons when we would have blown this.

As for what you were saying before, you were talking like you were being censored or something. But you're saying what you're saying right now? If people disagree with you, so what? I agree the team needs improvement. No one is telling you to buy in to group thought here. But I do think right now it looks like things are going in the right direction for the Saints (you don't have to agree with me nor do you have to group think that with me :) ).

Rell&Gold 10-22-2017 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 771619)
Actually it was 40 yards, since we're nitpicking.

And that was due to him not touching the ball not because we were stopping him when he ran Sir Nitpick...He avg 8 yds a carry that's ridiculous...Idc what you talking about...

Rell&Gold 10-22-2017 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 771626)
I never said I was completely sold. I can't and don't speak for others.
I was disappointed in some poor tackling in defensive backfield, disappointed in Brees throwing 2 INT's, and disappointed in a lot of stuff. Unfortunately if you look at the NFL, there are no absolute dominate teams.

We have a lot of room for improvement. We won a game we were supposed to win, which is very different from the previous 3 or 4 seasons when we would have blown this.

As for what you were saying before, you were talking like you were being censored or something. But you're saying what you're saying right now? If people disagree with you, so what? I agree the team needs improvement. No one is telling you to buy in to group thought here. But I do think right now it looks like things are going in the right direction for the Saints (you don't have to agree with me nor do you have to group think that with me :) ).

So, don't know what the censor sh!t was about, Becasuse said nothing of the sort...if that's how you interpreted that then aye oh well, but the point of the post is what you attempted to tell in regards to difference of opinion...
you tried breakdown a breakdown and missed the point of it. Thanks though.

WHODATINCA 10-23-2017 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 771607)
Number one rule in #SaintsClub DONT talk #BadSaintsFootball #SShhh

Lls...try to dictate how people view and discuss the team that NONE of US own

I get that people here want to celebrate the win. That's what we are here for -- to enjoy our team.

It's just that while the win certainly improved my Sunday ( a lot ) -- that wasn't all I saw and felt after the game.

But, I expect both sides of the ball to improve. And, I don't remember any injuries either, sooo.... hope springs eternal for a WHODAT. :bng:

frydaddy 10-23-2017 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 771627)
And that was due to him not touching the ball not because we were stopping him when he ran Sir Nitpick...He avg 8 yds a carry that's ridiculous...Idc what you talking about...

Obviously you didn't read the article that was posted yesterday about the adjustments the Saints made at halftime to stop their run game. Since you probably won't go find it I'll sum it up briefly. Packers were using a strange blocking scheme that caught our D line off guard. At halftime they switched up some people's assignments and clamped down on it. Jones disnt get as many carries because suddenly it wasn't so successful anymore.

WillMacKenzie 10-23-2017 08:16 AM

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In the past we could have found a thousand ways to lose this game. We didn't.

To me, this is where the true corner was turned

K Major 10-23-2017 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie (Post 771659)
In the past we could have found a thousand ways to lose this game. We didn't.

To me, this is where the true corner was turned

Yes sir. Last year I'm not sure this team would be able to overcome two turnovers & still be able to win on the road.

Euphoria 10-23-2017 10:11 AM

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I know I am not a fan of Crawley!!!

I been noticing him and he avoids tackling than any body I ever seen.

He goes for a strip and never tries to tackle. Vs GB he sticks a shoulder and elbow out at the goal line and goes by the guy. The other DB near him gives a look like WTF? As the packer crosses the goal line.

dizzle88 10-23-2017 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 771673)
I know I am not a fan of Crawley!!!

I been noticing him and he avoids tackling than any body I ever seen.

He goes for a strip and never tries to tackle. Vs GB he sticks a shoulder and elbow out at the goal line and goes by the guy. The other DB near him gives a look like WTF? As the packer crosses the goal line.

I saw Kenny give him the WTF look as that happened.

Got to think that is brought up in meetings now, he made a bad tackle attempt vs Golden Tate last week that resulted in a long TD and then that play yesterday.

K Major 10-23-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 771564)
Da Bears had 4 completions, 5 first downs and 153 yards of total offense. If their O plays like that against us their D is going to have to put up a lot more points.

Dam1953,

Agree completely & you bring up a interesting point. The Saints had 75 offensive plays yesterday that basically wore down the GB defense. I would love to ground and pound again on Sunday, leaving the Bears D gutless by the 3rd quarter. Sean Payton was a Chess master on yesterday. His offensive play calling took their LB's (notably Clay Matthews) off the field on 3rd downs by manipulating the defense. X factor here was ALVIN KAMARA. He can beat you in so many ways (Joker role). Smooth.

I just don't see enough weapons on offense for Da Bears to keep up.

vpheughan 10-23-2017 11:26 AM

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"Captain, Censors indidcate............"

hagan714 10-23-2017 11:33 AM

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Once again a double teaming run stuffing DT was shown to be a huge need up front and keeping the LB clean.

2018 FA - My #1 2018 FA - Mr Big Big Bang for the Bucks
DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $3/4 M

They return home for a pair of winnable games against the Chicago Bears and Tampa Bay Buccaneers.


The Bears front 7 which is turning into one of the best front 7 in the NFL Bears defense will be a solid test for the OL. Akiem Hicks will want to get a hit on Drew

Audition time for a 2018 FA
Kyle Fuller CB Bears 5116 190 4.40 1st Round 2014 - $8/12 M
Christian Jones OLB/ILB 6031 249 4.68 CHI $1/2 M

Get a win against the Bears then lets talk about the biggest game of the season, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

First thing first - the Bears

jeanpierre 10-23-2017 01:44 PM

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Thirty3 10-23-2017 01:51 PM

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Crawley missed/flubbed at least 3 tackles in first quarter. We all saw it. Here's my take: guy's been solid and a great tackler till then. I wonder if he's hurt? Shoulder? concussion? Or has he been talking to Deion Sanders????

jeanpierre 10-23-2017 01:55 PM

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Yeah, okay...


K Major 10-23-2017 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 771706)
Crawley missed/flubbed at least 3 tackles in first quarter. We all saw it. Here's my take: guy's been solid and a great tackler till then. I wonder if he's hurt? Shoulder? concussion? Or has he been talking to Deion Sanders????

While I can agree that was a "whiff" on an attempted tackle by Crawley, I do think he has been good in coverage over the last few weeks. In today's NFL, sometimes I think it gets in a defensive players head that he can't really touch a QB close to the sideline. Not making excuses but just a thought I had.

As Diz stated in another post, you better believe he will be called out for it by Dennis Allen in film study.

jeanpierre 10-23-2017 02:33 PM

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Don't overlook the Bears - they just beat the Panthers with four completed passes!!!

And they've gone the distance (last play) in some of their losses!!!

K Major 10-23-2017 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 771723)
Don't overlook the Bears - they just beat the Panthers with four completed passes!!!

And they've gone the distance (last play) in some of their losses!!!

Understood but the rookie went 4 of 7 for 107 yards. WTH??

Good luck with that one on Sunday in the dome. Especially going against a hot defensive team that can create turnovers, get to the QB and take pick 6's to the house on any given pass play.

I hope he throws in Latt's direction.

Utah_Saint 10-23-2017 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 771726)
Good luck with that one on Sunday in the dome. Especially going against a hot defensive team that can create turnovers, get to the QB and take pick 6's to the house on any given pass play.

That also describes the Bears defense.

K Major 10-23-2017 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 771727)
That also describes the Bears defense.

True dat but #9 is under center in NO. I expect him to rebound in a big way inside the dome. No disrespect to the Bears, I just think the Saints (black/gold glasses are off) are a more complete team on both sides of the ball.

jeanpierre 10-23-2017 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 771726)
Understood but the rookie went 4 of 7 for 107 yards. WTH??

Good luck with that one on Sunday in the dome. Especially going against a hot defensive team that can create turnovers, get to the QB and take pick 6's to the house on any given pass play.

I hope he throws in Latt's direction.

Jim Harbaugh and Da Bears did it to the Dome Patrol back on 27 OCT 1991; I was at that game!!!

Harbaugh went 5 for 22 for 61 PaYD!!! Vince Buck had 2 INT off of Harbaugh, but if I remember right, Jimbo completed 4 for 4 on the last drive and the Bears won 20-17 in the Dome...

Everyone wanted to kill Carl Smith, but we years later we learned it was Jim Mora, Sr who was scared to trust Hebert to pass the ball...


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