Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T.

10-24-2017, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Let's see once both of their careers are over. Brees still has another four to five years left. Brady may not play as long.

Here's the elephant in the room. If Brees continues to play like he has in the past 3 quarters it may be time to put Chase Daniel in...,,
It's obvious Brees had lost a step. He can't get downfield more than 20 yards and his accuracy is starting to go.

dam1953 · 10-24-2017, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Here's the elephant in the room. If Brees continues to play like he has in the past 3 quarters it may be time to put Chase Daniel in...,,
It's obvious Brees had lost a step. He can't get downfield more than 20 yards and his accuracy is starting to go.

You obviously forgot the SARC flag...

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2017, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Here's the elephant in the room. If Brees continues to play like he has in the past 3 quarters it may be time to put Chase Daniel in...,,
It's obvious Brees had lost a step. He can't get downfield more than 20 yards and his accuracy is starting to go.

Boy you've got your blind hate going today!

Can't handle the success, huh?

And what about that bet that you said you would take with you guaranteeing Brees would be on another NFL roster beginning the 2018 season?

Huh?

You are the only elephant in this room.

ScottF · 10-24-2017, 01:01 PM

They have their guy, we have ours. Both make every player on the field better. Both have turned has-beens into stars.

With a better defense, Brees' numbers would be much lower, and maybe the rings would be doubled.

I've also felt Brees was more stat-driven. I know Payton ultimately decides who is on the field, but I look at some of the blowouts when Brees was still in. Two I remember are when we were beating the Colts by 50, and the Sun/Mon night game when we were killing Atl, but Brees was still out there throwing.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2017, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

You obviously forgot the SARC flag...

He's not being sarcastic. He actually believes this. He was claiming that Brees has lost his accuracy in a thread last week.

Well, after this week Brees RAISED his passing percentage from 68.1% to 69.1%, which is fourth (4th) in the league and two percentage points above his lifetime percentage that is, by the way, the highest in NFL history. He is also ranked fourth (4th) in the NFL for passes completed over 20 yards.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2017, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

They have their guy, we have ours. Both make every player on the field better. Both have turned has-beens into stars.

With a better defense, Brees' numbers would be much lower, and maybe the rings would be doubled.

I've also felt Brees was more stat-driven. I know Payton ultimately decides who is on the field, but I look at some of the blowouts when Brees was still in. Two I remember are when we were beating the Colts by 50, and the Sun/Mon night game when we were killing Atl, but Brees was still out there throwing.

They were executing their offense. Nothing wrong with that. I wish they would do it more rather than become conservative. Payton learned that from Parcells.

ScottF · 10-24-2017, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They were executing their offense. Nothing wrong with that. I wish they would do it more rather than become conservative. Payton learned that from Parcells.

I'm all for that AG, as we have certainly pissed away enough games because we can't sweep the leg.

But I'm talking about being up 55-7 in the 4th and your franchise QB is on the field. or being up 30 points with 3 minutes to go against a hated rival just looking to hit someone, and the $25 million man is throwing a touchdown to Sproles?

Danno · 10-24-2017, 06:24 PM

Both are elite, but I don't recall Brady making nearly as many bonehead interceptions as Drew.

WhoDat!656 · 10-24-2017, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

As much as I love what Brees has done for this team and how he has carried the weight of not having any help, some stats I believe have been left out of this article.

Brady - 471 TD's and 154 ints
Brees - 476 TD's and 224 ints

Brees has 70 more turnovers than Brady does, you could attribute some to the fact he hasn't had a defense for god knows how long, but the Green Bay game showed us something and that's that Brees refuses to be a game manager, often at the expense of a FG because he forces too many passes.

Ultimately, management wasted several years of Brees being at the top of his game, it pains me to say it, but Brady is the more reliable QB mainly due to turnover numbers.

Brady is more reliable because he has played his entire career in a dumpster fire division; I guarantee you that if Brady had played in any NFC division he would not have near the success that he does now.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2017, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

I'm all for that AG, as we have certainly pissed away enough games because we can't sweep the leg.

But I'm talking about being up 55-7 in the 4th and your franchise QB is on the field. or being up 30 points with 3 minutes to go against a hated rival just looking to hit someone, and the $25 million man is throwing a touchdown to Sproles?

That's how we would see it as a fan. To the teams it is just another game finish.

10-24-2017, 12:42 PM	#11
Threaded by The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Let's see once both of their careers are over. Brees still has another four to five years left. Brady may not play as long. Here's the elephant in the room. If Brees continues to play like he has in the past 3 quarters it may be time to put Chase Daniel in...,, It's obvious Brees had lost a step. He can't get downfield more than 20 yards and his accuracy is starting to go.
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10-24-2017, 12:44 PM	#12
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T. Originally Posted by The Dude Here's the elephant in the room. If Brees continues to play like he has in the past 3 quarters it may be time to put Chase Daniel in...,, It's obvious Brees had lost a step. He can't get downfield more than 20 yards and his accuracy is starting to go. You obviously forgot the SARC flag... The Dude likes this.

10-24-2017, 12:51 PM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T. Originally Posted by The Dude Here's the elephant in the room. If Brees continues to play like he has in the past 3 quarters it may be time to put Chase Daniel in...,, It's obvious Brees had lost a step. He can't get downfield more than 20 yards and his accuracy is starting to go. Boy you've got your blind hate going today! Can't handle the success, huh? And what about that bet that you said you would take with you guaranteeing Brees would be on another NFL roster beginning the 2018 season? Huh? You are the only elephant in this room.

10-24-2017, 01:01 PM	#14
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T. They have their guy, we have ours. Both make every player on the field better. Both have turned has-beens into stars. With a better defense, Brees' numbers would be much lower, and maybe the rings would be doubled. I've also felt Brees was more stat-driven. I know Payton ultimately decides who is on the field, but I look at some of the blowouts when Brees was still in. Two I remember are when we were beating the Colts by 50, and the Sun/Mon night game when we were killing Atl, but Brees was still out there throwing. jnormand likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T. Originally Posted by dam1953 You obviously forgot the SARC flag... He's not being sarcastic. He actually believes this. He was claiming that Brees has lost his accuracy in a thread last week. Well, after this week Brees RAISED his passing percentage from 68.1% to 69.1%, which is fourth (4th) in the league and two percentage points above his lifetime percentage that is, by the way, the highest in NFL history. He is also ranked fourth (4th) in the NFL for passes completed over 20 yards. Thirty3 likes this.

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10-24-2017, 01:03 PM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T. Originally Posted by ScottF They have their guy, we have ours. Both make every player on the field better. Both have turned has-beens into stars. With a better defense, Brees' numbers would be much lower, and maybe the rings would be doubled. I've also felt Brees was more stat-driven. I know Payton ultimately decides who is on the field, but I look at some of the blowouts when Brees was still in. Two I remember are when we were beating the Colts by 50, and the Sun/Mon night game when we were killing Atl, but Brees was still out there throwing. They were executing their offense. Nothing wrong with that. I wish they would do it more rather than become conservative. Payton learned that from Parcells.

10-24-2017, 06:21 PM	#17
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They were executing their offense. Nothing wrong with that. I wish they would do it more rather than become conservative. Payton learned that from Parcells. I'm all for that AG, as we have certainly pissed away enough games because we can't sweep the leg. But I'm talking about being up 55-7 in the 4th and your franchise QB is on the field. or being up 30 points with 3 minutes to go against a hated rival just looking to hit someone, and the $25 million man is throwing a touchdown to Sproles?

10-24-2017, 06:24 PM	#18
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T. Both are elite, but I don't recall Brady making nearly as many bonehead interceptions as Drew. ScottF and dizzle88 like this.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,001	Re: Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T. Originally Posted by dizzle88 As much as I love what Brees has done for this team and how he has carried the weight of not having any help, some stats I believe have been left out of this article. Brady - 471 TD's and 154 ints Brees - 476 TD's and 224 ints Brees has 70 more turnovers than Brady does, you could attribute some to the fact he hasn't had a defense for god knows how long, but the Green Bay game showed us something and that's that Brees refuses to be a game manager, often at the expense of a FG because he forces too many passes. Ultimately, management wasted several years of Brees being at the top of his game, it pains me to say it, but Brady is the more reliable QB mainly due to turnover numbers. Brady is more reliable because he has played his entire career in a dumpster fire division; I guarantee you that if Brady had played in any NFC division he would not have near the success that he does now. AsylumGuido and Thirty3 like this.

10-24-2017, 07:57 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Drew Brees, Not Tom Brady, Really Is the G.O.A.T. Originally Posted by ScottF I'm all for that AG, as we have certainly pissed away enough games because we can't sweep the leg. But I'm talking about being up 55-7 in the 4th and your franchise QB is on the field. or being up 30 points with 3 minutes to go against a hated rival just looking to hit someone, and the $25 million man is throwing a touchdown to Sproles? That's how we would see it as a fan. To the teams it is just another game finish.

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