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K Major 10-27-2017 09:21 AM

Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
 
Sheldon Richardson - DE
Kam Chancellor - S
Shaq Barrett - OLB

hagan714 10-27-2017 09:26 AM

Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 772605)
Damn, good looking out Hagan.

He is a good player and the Jag defense is trending up. Good for him though.

I was keeping an eye on him

Jags have some big money contracts coming up

Some thing has to give Odd man out in Jacksonville

Allen Robinson 4 - $58 million ?
Marqise Lee 4 - 42 million ?
Allen Hurns WR Jaguars 6012 198 4.55 UDFA = 5 - $40 million no dead cap in 2018

So I am watching
Aaron Colvin CB Jaguars = Nickle CB
I hoping he slip through the cracks

Utah_Saint 10-27-2017 09:35 AM

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There are several of our own free agents that need to be resigned.

Brees, Vaccaro, Okafor, Bush...

After that a few names to look at, in no particular order might be...

Bennie Logan, DT from the Chiefs
DeMarcus Lawrence, DE from the Cowboys
Zach Brown from the, ILB from the Redskins
Mason Foster from the, ILB from the Redskins
Morgan Burnett from the, SS from the Packers

K Major 10-27-2017 10:56 AM

Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 772615)
There are several of our own free agents that need to be resigned.

Brees, Vaccaro, Okafor, Bush...

U_S,

I'd like your input here ... who stays for 2018? Signs elsewhere ...

hagan714 10-27-2017 12:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 772598)
Well, the bigger issue for us is cap management and that's likely to dictate what we do in free agency...

For example, will we be trading folks for future cap relief? Also, do we extend contracts coming due or move on?

Only real needs we have at the moment is TE, reserves at LB, DT3, maybe a reserve Interior Offensive Lineman...

This is a balanced team with adequate depth at all positions; in fact, we just released a good cornerback, a premium position no less...

Cap? Drew 20+ million a year
Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year

2018 NFL Salary Cap $168,000,000
Dead Money $5,688,972
All Contracts $133,574,626
Total $139,263,598
Cap Space $28,736,402

Update
Adrian Peterson Dead $0 Savings $3.5 million

that leaves $6.5M or so to play with so my guy can be wormed in

DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M

front office goes to pull a wabbit out of their hat?

a few outs

Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr,
cap $6,245,000; Dead $1,645,000
Savings $4.6 mil in 2018

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169;
Cap $8,000,000 Dead $4,800,000
Savings $4.0 mil in 2018

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097;
Cap $4,700,000 Dead $700,000
Savings $4.0 mil in 2018

Max Unger
Cap $8,000,000 Dead $4,500,000
Savings $3.5 mil in 2018

Ted Ginn
Potential Out: 2018, 1 yr, $5,000,000;
Cap $4,500,000 Dead $2,000,000
Savings $2.5 mil in 2018

Michael Hoomanawanui
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $3,500,000;
Cap $1,933,334 Dead $333,334
Savings $1.6 mil in 2018


Potential out 2019

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000;
Cap $15,000,000 Dead $7,400,000
Savings $7.6 mil in 2018

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000;
Cap $9,000,000 Dead $4,000,000
Savings $5.0 mil in 2019

were do you start?

FA
Nick Fairley
DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M
Savings $5.0 mil in 2019

Round 1 - 26
Coby Fleener?
Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma 6042 254 4.77 #81 rJr
Savings $4.0 mil in 2018

or
Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year
Ronnie Harrison SS/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr

Rd 4
Thomas Morstead
JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr
Savings $4.0 mil in 2018

Rd 6
Michael Hoomanawanui
Marcus Baugh TE Ohio State 6041 250 4.84 #85 rSr
Savings $1.6 mil in 2018

you pick

Rugby Saint II 10-27-2017 12:37 PM

Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
 
Let's don't gamble on injured players. Oh, and cut Fleener! He isn't worth the money.

nola_swammi 10-27-2017 01:00 PM

Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
 
Eric Reid

ScottF 10-27-2017 02:23 PM

Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 772595)
The Jimmy Garoppolo situation is going to be very interesting. The Saints would seem to be a logical fit and could possibly be a 10-15 year solution. I would bet New England applies the franchise tag, but if they don't it could be something to watch.

I don't see a team paying someone $22 million (QB Tag) to watch Brady play.

ScottF 10-27-2017 02:51 PM

Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 772636)
Cap? Drew 20+ million a year
Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year

2018 NFL Salary Cap $168,000,000
Dead Money $5,688,972
All Contracts $133,574,626
Total $139,263,598
Cap Space $28,736,402

that leaves 3 mill or less to play with so my guy can be wormed in

DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M

front office goes to pull a wabbit out of their hat?

a few outs
Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap
Savings $4.6 mil in 2018

Adrian Peterson
Cap $4,750,000 Dead $1,250,000
Savings $3.5 million

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap
Savings $3.2 mil in 2018

Michael Hoomanawanui Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $3,500,000; $333,334 dead cap $1.6M

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap
Savings $4.1 mil in 2018

Ted Ginn
Potential Out: 2018, 1 yr, $5,000,000; $2,000,000 dead cap
Savings $2.5 mil in 2018

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap

were do you start?


I could see an injury / retirement settlement with Fairley
Morstead has to be maxed out, right? Maybe an extension a slight discount

Fleener is the obvious candidate. Someone like Cameron Brate would be a much cheaper replacement and could be available

lee909 10-27-2017 02:52 PM

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Think Strief will be restructure or cut myself


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