The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History

11-16-2017, 12:27 PM

The league has not seen a two-headed monster like this in quite some time — in fact, the pair is on pace to be the most productive backfield tandem in nearly 40 years.

Through nine weeks, Ingram and Kamara have tallied 1,654 yards from scrimmage (rushing and receiving) and are currently on pace for nearly 3,000 combined yards, with Ingram on pace for 1,536 yards and Kamara for 1,404. To put this production in perspective, consider that there have been only 10 pairs of backfield mates since the 16-game era began in 1978 who each totaled at least 1,200 yards from scrimmage, according to Pro-Football-Reference.com. This last happened in 2009, when Jonathan Stewart and DeAngelo Williams did it for the Panthers. But that duo combined for only 2,641 yards — 300 fewer than the projected output of Ingram and Kamara. The only backfield pair to top the Saints’ duo’s 16-game pace was Walter Payton (1,875 yards) and Roland Harper (1,332 yards), with a total of 3,207 for the 1978 Bears.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...st-in-history/

SmashMouth · 11-16-2017, 09:40 PM

If anything, Ingram and Kamara are not being done justice with this projected yardage total. That’s because at the beginning of this season, this two-headed monster had three heads. For the first quarter of the season, Kamara and Ingram split duties with free-agent signing and likely future Hall of Famer Adrian Peterson. The experiment didn’t work. Not familiar with sharing running duties, Peterson was giving coach Sean Payton death stares after one week and was traded away after four. With Peterson gone, Kamgram was set to take off in earnest: In the five games since, the duo has tallied 1,129 scrimmage yards with a near perfect split (569 by Ingram, 560 by Kamara). That’s 226 yards per game or an absurd 3,616-yard pace for a full season.

SAINTS are blessed to have them both.

QBREES9 · 11-17-2017, 12:38 AM

They're special

Rugby Saint II · 11-17-2017, 06:45 PM

**** YEAH!!!

AsylumGuido · 11-17-2017, 06:49 PM

17-2 Baby!

CheramieIII · 11-18-2017, 05:20 AM

Ingram has outlived the negative comments and has been re-energized but he ain't no bunny!

hagan714 · 11-18-2017, 07:41 AM

wow mid season to the hall. talk about jumping the gun and drinking too much kool aid before the part has even started.

Ingram is getting long in the tooth

I am looking at the draft for other RB options to add to the mix
Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.45 #5 Jr
Ronald Jones RB/KR USC* 5116 195 4.49 #25 Jr
Josh Adams RB Notre Dame 6012 225 4.48 #33 Jr
Royce Freeman RB Oregon 5111 230 4.49 #21 Jr.
Rashaad Penny RB/KR San Diego State 5091 220 4.52 #20 Sr
Ralph Webb RB Vanderbilt 5092 202 4.50 #7 rSr
Ito Smith RB/WR/KR Southern Miss 5085 195 4.50 #25 Sr
Jamal Morrow RB/KR/PR Washington State 5085 180 4.54 #25 rSr

FB
Dimitri Flowers HB/FB/TE Oklahoma 6005 247 4.83 #36 Sr
Jaylen Samuels NC State 5112 222 4.78 FB/HB/TE/WR
Winston Dimal FB Kansas State 6005 235 4.84 #38 rJr

Day 1 If .
Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma 6002 220 4.64 #6 rSr

Day 2 then
Dimitri Flowers HB/FB/TE Oklahoma 6005 247 4.83 #36 Sr

Day 3 another 3 headed monster
Ito Smith RB/WR/KR Southern Miss 5085 195 4.50 #25 Sr

UDFA another well rounded back
Jamal Morrow RB/KR/PR Washington State 5085 180 4.54 #25

I am never happy with what we have. always room for improvement

Other than that so far so good,

subguy · 11-18-2017, 07:44 AM

You Hagan? Never happy? I am shocked to hear this!

SmashMouth · 11-18-2017, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

wow mid season to the hall. talk about jumping the gun and drinking too much kool aid before the part has even started.

Ingram is getting long in the tooth

I am looking at the draft for other RB options to add to the mix
Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.45 #5 Jr
Ronald Jones RB/KR USC* 5116 195 4.49 #25 Jr
Josh Adams RB Notre Dame 6012 225 4.48 #33 Jr
Royce Freeman RB Oregon 5111 230 4.49 #21 Jr.
Ralph Webb RB Vanderbilt 5092 202 4.50 #7 rSr
Rashaad Penny RB/KR San Diego State 5091 220 4.52 #20 Sr
Ito Smith RB/WR/KR Southern Miss 5085 195 4.50 #25 Sr
Jamal Morrow RB/KR/PR Washington State 5085 180 4.54 #25 rSr

FB
Dimitri Flowers HB/FB/TE Oklahoma 6005 247 4.83 #36 Sr
Jaylen Samuels NC State 5112 222 4.78 FB/HB/TE/WR
Winston Dimal FB Kansas State 6005 235 4.84 #38 rJr

If you draft Baker Mayfield I would make sure to draft his favorite safety blanket Dimitri Flowers

I am never happy with what we have.

Other than that so far so good,

Guide would look great in Black and Gold.

hagan714 · 11-18-2017, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Guice would look great in Black and Gold.

Ingram Kamara and Guice would be a dream come true. Start training a replacement now for Ingram when he is ready for the retirement home or becomes a FA and chases the big bucks. but he will be off the board long before we pick at this rate of winning

I have been watching the kid out of USC

Ronald Jones RB/KR USC* 5116 195 4.49 #25 Jr

He has developed into a legitimate three-down back prospect. We all new he could run inside and outside. His route running has improved big time. But more than anything else his pass protecting and blitz pick ups have improved more than anything else.

The next back with the same type qualities as the first rounders is Royce Freeman but he has not looked like the same RB as before the injury last year.

So i am going day 3 bargain basement shopping with the same skill set

Ito Smith RB/WR/KR Southern Miss 5085 195 4.50 #25 Sr

Now this kid amazes me. He does it all and does it really well. No more WR in the KR/PR game.

Ingram Kamara and Smith would be a solid pairing

Ingram and Kamara give the saints so many different options how to approach personnel addition that other teams have no idea what we will do in the off season back there.

11-16-2017, 12:27 PM	#1
Threaded by WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,047 Rating: (0 votes - average) The league has not seen a two-headed monster like this in quite some time — in fact, the pair is on pace to be the most productive backfield tandem in nearly 40 years. Through nine weeks, Ingram and Kamara have tallied 1,654 yards from scrimmage (rushing and receiving) and are currently on pace for nearly 3,000 combined yards, with Ingram on pace for 1,536 yards and Kamara for 1,404. To put this production in perspective, consider that there have been only 10 pairs of backfield mates since the 16-game era began in 1978 who each totaled at least 1,200 yards from scrimmage, according to Pro-Football-Reference.com. This last happened in 2009, when Jonathan Stewart and DeAngelo Williams did it for the Panthers. But that duo combined for only 2,641 yards — 300 fewer than the projected output of Ingram and Kamara. The only backfield pair to top the Saints’ duo’s 16-game pace was Walter Payton (1,875 yards) and Roland Harper (1,332 yards), with a total of 3,207 for the 1978 Bears. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...st-in-history/ SmashMouth and dam1953 like this. Last edited by SmashMouth; 11-16-2017 at 09:38 PM..
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11-17-2017, 06:45 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History **** YEAH!!!

11-18-2017, 07:41 AM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History wow mid season to the hall. talk about jumping the gun and drinking too much kool aid before the part has even started. Ingram is getting long in the tooth I am looking at the draft for other RB options to add to the mix Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.45 #5 Jr *Ronald Jones RB/KR USC 5116 195 4.49 #25 Jr Josh Adams RB Notre Dame 6012 225 4.48 #33 Jr Royce Freeman RB Oregon 5111 230 4.49 #21 Jr. Rashaad Penny RB/KR San Diego State 5091 220 4.52 #20 Sr Ralph Webb RB Vanderbilt 5092 202 4.50 #7 rSr Ito Smith RB/WR/KR Southern Miss 5085 195 4.50 #25 Sr Jamal Morrow RB/KR/PR Washington State 5085 180 4.54 #25 rSr FB Dimitri Flowers HB/FB/TE Oklahoma 6005 247 4.83 #36 Sr Jaylen Samuels NC State 5112 222 4.78 FB/HB/TE/WR Winston Dimal FB Kansas State 6005 235 4.84 #38 rJr Day 1 If . Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma 6002 220 4.64 #6 rSr Day 2 then Dimitri Flowers HB/FB/TE Oklahoma 6005 247 4.83 #36 Sr Day 3 another 3 headed monster Ito Smith RB/WR/KR Southern Miss 5085 195 4.50 #25 Sr UDFA another well rounded back** Jamal Morrow RB/KR/PR Washington State 5085 180 4.54 #25 I am never happy with what we have. always room for improvement Other than that so far so good,
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins Last edited by hagan714; 11-18-2017 at 08:03 AM..

11-18-2017, 07:44 AM	#8
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History You Hagan? Never happy? I am shocked to hear this! hagan714 likes this.

11-18-2017, 08:00 AM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,127 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History Originally Posted by hagan714 wow mid season to the hall. talk about jumping the gun and drinking too much kool aid before the part has even started. Ingram is getting long in the tooth I am looking at the draft for other RB options to add to the mix Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.45 #5 Jr Ronald Jones RB/KR USC* 5116 195 4.49 #25 Jr Josh Adams RB Notre Dame 6012 225 4.48 #33 Jr Royce Freeman RB Oregon 5111 230 4.49 #21 Jr. Ralph Webb RB Vanderbilt 5092 202 4.50 #7 rSr Rashaad Penny RB/KR San Diego State 5091 220 4.52 #20 Sr Ito Smith RB/WR/KR Southern Miss 5085 195 4.50 #25 Sr Jamal Morrow RB/KR/PR Washington State 5085 180 4.54 #25 rSr FB Dimitri Flowers HB/FB/TE Oklahoma 6005 247 4.83 #36 Sr Jaylen Samuels NC State 5112 222 4.78 FB/HB/TE/WR Winston Dimal FB Kansas State 6005 235 4.84 #38 rJr If you draft Baker Mayfield I would make sure to draft his favorite safety blanket Dimitri Flowers I am never happy with what we have. Other than that so far so good, Guide would look great in Black and Gold. hagan714 likes this.

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11-16-2017, 09:40 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,127 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History If anything, Ingram and Kamara are not being done justice with this projected yardage total. That’s because at the beginning of this season, this two-headed monster had three heads. For the first quarter of the season, Kamara and Ingram split duties with free-agent signing and likely future Hall of Famer Adrian Peterson. The experiment didn’t work. Not familiar with sharing running duties, Peterson was giving coach Sean Payton death stares after one week and was traded away after four. With Peterson gone, Kamgram was set to take off in earnest: In the five games since, the duo has tallied 1,129 scrimmage yards with a near perfect split (569 by Ingram, 560 by Kamara). That’s 226 yards per game or an absurd 3,616-yard pace for a full season. SAINTS are blessed to have them both.

11-17-2017, 12:38 AM	#3
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History They're special

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History Ingram has outlived the negative comments and has been re-energized but he ain't no bunny! hagan714 likes this.

11-18-2017, 08:19 AM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History Originally Posted by SmashMouth Guice would look great in Black and Gold. Ingram Kamara and Guice would be a dream come true. Start training a replacement now for Ingram when he is ready for the retirement home or becomes a FA and chases the big bucks. but he will be off the board long before we pick at this rate of winning I have been watching the kid out of USC Ronald Jones RB/KR USC* 5116 195 4.49 #25 Jr He has developed into a legitimate three-down back prospect. We all new he could run inside and outside. His route running has improved big time. But more than anything else his pass protecting and blitz pick ups have improved more than anything else. The next back with the same type qualities as the first rounders is Royce Freeman but he has not looked like the same RB as before the injury last year. So i am going day 3 bargain basement shopping with the same skill set Ito Smith RB/WR/KR Southern Miss 5085 195 4.50 #25 Sr Now this kid amazes me. He does it all and does it really well. No more WR in the KR/PR game. Ingram Kamara and Smith would be a solid pairing Ingram and Kamara give the saints so many different options how to approach personnel addition that other teams have no idea what we will do in the off season back there. SmashMouth likes this.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins