I don't care about what we do next year

WillSaints81 · 11-19-2017, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Um,

It may be prudent not to speculate until the game is actually over. Ya know that fat lady singing and all that...

8 in a row baby! Keep it going!

SFIAH

Well can you blame me given our recent history in games like this? What if I didn't start this thread? I probably would have come on after the game when we actually lost. But enough with that superstitious stuff. This was the ONE game on our schedule I badly wanted us to win.

And to the other I knew we were not going undefeated the rest of the way. I had us losing to LA and Carolina losing week 14 or 15. Meaning if we win the games we should, we can still win the division if Carolina won week 13. If we lost to Washington, it would have been game over for division if we lost three in a row. We can still win next week, but I don't think we would have if we lost at home to a team whose chances of the playoffs are not better than theirs.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-19-2017, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Well can you blame me given our recent history in games like this?

Actually I can. Because you are making a mistake if you are basing an outcome on anything other than what has happened in the last couple of months.

What if I didn't start this thread? I probably would have come on after the game when we actually lost. But enough with that superstitious stuff. This was the ONE game on our schedule I badly wanted us to win.

And your wish was granted. BTW, it wasn't your post that turned it around.

And to the other I knew we were not going undefeated the rest of the way. I had us losing to LA and Carolina losing week 14 or 15. Meaning if we win the games we should, we can still win the division if Carolina won week 13. If we lost to Washington, it would have been game over for division if we lost three in a row. We can still win next week, but I don't think we would have if we lost at home to a team whose chances of the playoffs are not better than theirs.

The point is that no game should be conceeded until it is actually over. I know many think Guido was nuts calling for a 14-2 season in September. But look where we are now, more than halfway there. While the odds of actually finishing 14-2 is not the most likely outcome, being driven to try to do so should be the goal.

BTW if you are going to use the past, remember that for the last 3 years the Saints have been in shootouts with virtually no defense. Remember that I stated in the offseason that the team would be competitive with an average defense. Over the last two months the defense has been outstanding. And the offense hasn't changed much from the ones who have been in shootout after shootout. Brees throws for 30 attempts and 200 yards not because he is limited. He does it because when the running game racks up nearly 200 yards and the defense gives the offense the ball back via takeaways, there's no need to do more.

But as you can see in the 4 minute drill, with 12/13 182 yards, 2 TDs, and both a game tying and game winning drive, Brees still can step up to the shootout arena when required. Coupled with a defense that finally can make the necessary plays and a running game that can punish and control a defense, you have a team that simply isn't out of the game, even when it seems to be.

It's shades of 2009. Down 24 points to Miami in the 2nd quarter to come back to win. The crazy game in Washington. Simply finding a way to win.

Right now the sun is shining so bright you should be uncomfortable. So predicting losses mid-game or losses for games yet to be played is frankly unacceptable.

So it's on to LA. Here's to hoping I won't see another post like this anytime soon.

SFIAH

11-19-2017, 06:13 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: I don't care about what we do next year Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Um, It may be prudent not to speculate until the game is actually over. Ya know that fat lady singing and all that... 8 in a row baby! Keep it going! SFIAH Well can you blame me given our recent history in games like this? What if I didn't start this thread? I probably would have come on after the game when we actually lost. But enough with that superstitious stuff. This was the ONE game on our schedule I badly wanted us to win. And to the other I knew we were not going undefeated the rest of the way. I had us losing to LA and Carolina losing week 14 or 15. Meaning if we win the games we should, we can still win the division if Carolina won week 13. If we lost to Washington, it would have been game over for division if we lost three in a row. We can still win next week, but I don't think we would have if we lost at home to a team whose chances of the playoffs are not better than theirs.

11-19-2017, 06:45 PM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,789	Re: I don't care about what we do next year Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Well can you blame me given our recent history in games like this? Actually I can. Because you are making a mistake if you are basing an outcome on anything other than what has happened in the last couple of months. What if I didn't start this thread? I probably would have come on after the game when we actually lost. But enough with that superstitious stuff. This was the ONE game on our schedule I badly wanted us to win. And your wish was granted. BTW, it wasn't your post that turned it around. And to the other I knew we were not going undefeated the rest of the way. I had us losing to LA and Carolina losing week 14 or 15. Meaning if we win the games we should, we can still win the division if Carolina won week 13. If we lost to Washington, it would have been game over for division if we lost three in a row. We can still win next week, but I don't think we would have if we lost at home to a team whose chances of the playoffs are not better than theirs. The point is that no game should be conceeded until it is actually over. I know many think Guido was nuts calling for a 14-2 season in September. But look where we are now, more than halfway there. While the odds of actually finishing 14-2 is not the most likely outcome, being driven to try to do so should be the goal. BTW if you are going to use the past, remember that for the last 3 years the Saints have been in shootouts with virtually no defense. Remember that I stated in the offseason that the team would be competitive with an average defense. Over the last two months the defense has been outstanding. And the offense hasn't changed much from the ones who have been in shootout after shootout. Brees throws for 30 attempts and 200 yards not because he is limited. He does it because when the running game racks up nearly 200 yards and the defense gives the offense the ball back via takeaways, there's no need to do more. But as you can see in the 4 minute drill, with 12/13 182 yards, 2 TDs, and both a game tying and game winning drive, Brees still can step up to the shootout arena when required. Coupled with a defense that finally can make the necessary plays and a running game that can punish and control a defense, you have a team that simply isn't out of the game, even when it seems to be. It's shades of 2009. Down 24 points to Miami in the 2nd quarter to come back to win. The crazy game in Washington. Simply finding a way to win. Right now the sun is shining so bright you should be uncomfortable. So predicting losses mid-game or losses for games yet to be played is frankly unacceptable. So it's on to LA. Here's to hoping I won't see another post like this anytime soon. SFIAH AsylumGuido, frydaddy and CharityMike like this.
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