What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins

SmashMouth · 11-19-2017, 04:50 PM

That we CAN come back and win it.

Character team building long playoff capable win.

Without Lattimore, our defense is noticeably weaker...

Lutz can kick game winners!

That's it's not over until IT"S OVER!

WhoDat!

SmashMouth · 11-19-2017, 04:59 PM

Quarterback
Drew Brees took far more of a beating than in the previous few weeks. Brees made some nice throws, but couldn’t connect some others. This wasn’t the day Brees could put the team on his back and pull the Saints to victory ... until it was. He went full-throttle Brees for consecutive touchdown drives in the fourth quarter to force overtime.
Grade: A

Running back
Mark Ingram ran as hard as he possibly could to keep the Saints in the game. Alvin Kamara produced a couple of explosive plays. And he also made the amazing happen with the juggling touchdown reception and the two-point conversion.
Grade: A plus

Wide receiver
Ted Ginn Jr. has become one of the more consistent receivers on the Saints. Michael Thomas again came up with a few tough catches. The unit came up huge down the stretch.
Grade: B

Tight end
Coby Fleener hauled in a handful of big time receptions (five catches, 90 yards), and Josh Hill caught a TD. I still like what I saw from Hill and Michael Hoomanawanui with their blocking in the ground game.
Grade: B plus

Offensive line
The front five surrendered more pressure on Brees for the first time in quite a while. I saw some missed assignments from just about everyone along the offensive front. The Redskins overwhelmed Ryan Ramczyk too often.
Grade: B-minus

Defensive line
Cam Jordan and friends couldn’t provide too much pressure on Kirk Cousins. The Saints failed to record a quarterback hit on Cousins in the first half. The front line also found issues slowing down Redskins backup tailback Samaje Perine, who rushed for more than 100 yards. The unit kept it together late in the game, though, including a Cam Jordan sack in overtime.
Grade: C

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SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-19-2017, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

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Without Lattimore, our defense is noticeably weaker...

More than that. This game clearly showed why Lattimore, Klein, and Vaccaro all make the defense work. Remember that Harris started the first two games. Saw the same busted coverages as in the first two games. I love Mauti's grit. But it simply isn't Klein's talent.

Scheme can only do so much. We need the physical and mental talents of our missing starters for our defense to be effective.

Hope we see them all back soon.

SFIAH

Crusader · 11-19-2017, 05:11 PM

ChrisXVI · 11-19-2017, 05:16 PM

Why does De’Vante Harris STILL NOT KNOW WHO TO COVER?!?!

Danno · 11-19-2017, 05:20 PM

Some kudos

Fleener - Thats what we'd hope to see every game since we signed him.

Klein, Okafor and Lattimore are key players we need down the stretch

Ingram-looks like another #22 that played for the Cowboys a while back

Kamara-this kid is freaking special, even more special than most of us know.

Payton-It looks like he has the fire and passion that was missing the last few years.

Drew doesn't look a day over 30.

This team has chemistry and character. Its so 2009!!!

Crusader · 11-19-2017, 05:27 PM

The Saints played a crappy game for 3½ quarters and the boom. This is a group with a lot of grit and fight in 'em. I have said it before but they genuinly seem to be playing for each other and caring about oneanother.

Barry from MS · 11-19-2017, 05:43 PM

Glad they shutdown Lattimore...need him later down the stretch. Klein was hugely missed today. Only gripes would be wanting to see Rankins flash more on passing downs. Harris should be bagging groceries tomorrow, if only he could locate the bags and the groceries.

But we're just a good team...hasn't been that for awhile. Great W.

SmashMouth · 11-19-2017, 05:44 PM

WillMacKenzie · 11-19-2017, 05:45 PM

Anybody notice the holder held the laces in on Lutz's game winning kick?? Wow

11-19-2017, 04:50 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins That we CAN come back and win it. Character team building long playoff capable win. Without Lattimore, our defense is noticeably weaker... Lutz can kick game winners! That's it's not over until IT"S OVER! WhoDat! Halo, hagan714 and pumpkindriver like this.

11-19-2017, 05:07 PM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins Originally Posted by SmashMouth ... Without Lattimore, our defense is noticeably weaker... More than that. This game clearly showed why Lattimore, Klein, and Vaccaro all make the defense work. Remember that Harris started the first two games. Saw the same busted coverages as in the first two games. I love Mauti's grit. But it simply isn't Klein's talent. Scheme can only do so much. We need the physical and mental talents of our missing starters for our defense to be effective. Hope we see them all back soon. SFIAH hagan714, foreverfan, ScottF and 3 others like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins Why does De’Vante Harris STILL NOT KNOW WHO TO COVER?!?! hagan714, Rugby Saint II, K Major and 1 others like this.

11-19-2017, 05:20 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins Some kudos Fleener - Thats what we'd hope to see every game since we signed him. Klein, Okafor and Lattimore are key players we need down the stretch Ingram-looks like another #22 that played for the Cowboys a while back Kamara-this kid is freaking special, even more special than most of us know. Payton-It looks like he has the fire and passion that was missing the last few years. Drew doesn't look a day over 30. This team has chemistry and character. Its so 2009!!! Halo, saintfan, jnormand and 5 others like this.

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11-19-2017, 04:59 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins Quarterback Drew Brees took far more of a beating than in the previous few weeks. Brees made some nice throws, but couldn’t connect some others. This wasn’t the day Brees could put the team on his back and pull the Saints to victory ... until it was. He went full-throttle Brees for consecutive touchdown drives in the fourth quarter to force overtime. Grade: A Running back Mark Ingram ran as hard as he possibly could to keep the Saints in the game. Alvin Kamara produced a couple of explosive plays. And he also made the amazing happen with the juggling touchdown reception and the two-point conversion. Grade: A plus Wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. has become one of the more consistent receivers on the Saints. Michael Thomas again came up with a few tough catches. The unit came up huge down the stretch. Grade: B Tight end Coby Fleener hauled in a handful of big time receptions (five catches, 90 yards), and Josh Hill caught a TD. I still like what I saw from Hill and Michael Hoomanawanui with their blocking in the ground game. Grade: B plus Offensive line The front five surrendered more pressure on Brees for the first time in quite a while. I saw some missed assignments from just about everyone along the offensive front. The Redskins overwhelmed Ryan Ramczyk too often. Grade: B-minus Defensive line Cam Jordan and friends couldn’t provide too much pressure on Kirk Cousins. The Saints failed to record a quarterback hit on Cousins in the first half. The front line also found issues slowing down Redskins backup tailback Samaje Perine, who rushed for more than 100 yards. The unit kept it together late in the game, though, including a Cam Jordan sack in overtime. Grade: C read more from Larry Holder foreverfan and Rugby Saint II like this.

11-19-2017, 05:27 PM	#7
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins The Saints played a crappy game for 3½ quarters and the boom. This is a group with a lot of grit and fight in 'em. I have said it before but they genuinly seem to be playing for each other and caring about oneanother. Halo, SaintFanInATLHELL and hagan714 like this.

11-19-2017, 05:43 PM	#8
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins Glad they shutdown Lattimore...need him later down the stretch. Klein was hugely missed today. Only gripes would be wanting to see Rankins flash more on passing downs. Harris should be bagging groceries tomorrow, if only he could locate the bags and the groceries. But we're just a good team...hasn't been that for awhile. Great W. hagan714 likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins jnormand, pumpkindriver, ScottF and 1 others like this.

11-19-2017, 05:45 PM	#10
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins Anybody notice the holder held the laces in on Lutz's game winning kick?? Wow Danno, jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.