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ScottF 11-21-2017 01:27 PM

Don't Fire Payton
 
but,
two key calls made me scratch my head, but both worked out perfectly for us:

1) why didn't we go for 2 on the first late TD to try and cut it to 7? If you don't get it you at least know what you need in the final 3 minutes.

2) The early down FG. I had horrible flashbacks to the Atl game when we did the same thing and Hartley missed it. We were jamming the ball down their throats- seems like we should have continued that

Just happy both worked out

AsylumGuido 11-21-2017 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 778013)
but,
two key calls made me scratch my head, but both worked out perfectly for us:

1) why didn't we go for 2 on the first late TD to try and cut it to 7? If you don't get it you at least know what you need in the final 3 minutes.

2) The early down FG. I had horrible flashbacks to the Atl game when we did the same thing and Hartley missed it. We were jamming the ball down their throats- seems like we should have continued that

Just happy both worked out

1. It is a well accepted philosophy that you never go for two until it is completely necessary. If you go for it on the first TD and fail then the pressure shifts from your opponent needing to protect a one score lead to your team needing to score twice AND stopping your opponent twice.

2. He had confidence in Lutz at that point, obviously. Why take a chance at that point and loss the ball or lose yardage in some manner.

K Major 11-21-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 778021)
1. It is a well accepted philosophy that you never go for two until it is completely necessary.

Correct. See Philly vs Dallas :p.

dizzle88 11-21-2017 02:50 PM

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Exactly as Guido said, imagine as we score the first TD, the score is 31-22, if we go for 2 there and fail, the game is pretty much over and Washington have a 9 point lead.

Perfect play call by the way on the 2 point

Beastmode 11-21-2017 02:57 PM

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They have charts for all that stuff. It tells them what to do factoring in score and time. Not much thought really goes into 2 pt attempts.

WhoDat!656 11-21-2017 03:43 PM

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I will criticize Kimara a bit for hanging out with the fans after scoring his TD knowing the Saints had to go for 2.

Seer1 11-21-2017 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 778039)
I will criticize Kimara a bit for hanging out with the fans after scoring his TD knowing the Saints had to go for 2.

I won't. It was time for the twelfth man, person? to step it way the hell up! Kimara was just getting it cranked up.

WhoDat!656 11-21-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 778041)
I won't. It was time for the twelfth man, person? to step it way the hell up! Kimara was just getting it cranked up.

Looked at a replay of the game and I withdraw my criticism.


cmike 11-21-2017 04:25 PM

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I like it. He put all the pressure on himself. Especially if he knew the 2 point play call already.

vpheughan 11-21-2017 05:25 PM

Re: Don't Fire Payton
 
Payton should have called the new "Super Dome Special" and faked the winning FG ultimately costing the Saints the game. Just like Seattle!!

The Dude 11-21-2017 06:02 PM

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That 2 point conversion play was called the second we were down 14 points in the forth. They have that planned and knew the call based on what they had seen from Washington defense all day. They may have had a backup play or two picked out in the event they didn’t like Washington’s formation but they knew what they were doing.
I would never elect to take the ball first against the Saints in overtime. Not with this years defense. You get stopped and Lutz has the leg to kick it from most anywhere.

Seer1 11-21-2017 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 778062)
Payton should have called the new "Super Dome Special" and faked the winning FG ultimately costing the Saints the game. Just like Seattle!!

Hahaha! Payton builds offenses, Carroll defenses. I'll keep Sean as long as he outsources the D to some decent coaches.


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