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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; but, two key calls made me scratch my head, but both worked out perfectly for us: 1) why didn't we go for 2 on the first late TD to try and cut it to 7? If you don't get it ...

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Old 11-21-2017, 01:27 PM   #1
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two key calls made me scratch my head, but both worked out perfectly for us:

1) why didn't we go for 2 on the first late TD to try and cut it to 7? If you don't get it you at least know what you need in the final 3 minutes.

2) The early down FG. I had horrible flashbacks to the Atl game when we did the same thing and Hartley missed it. We were jamming the ball down their throats- seems like we should have continued that

Just happy both worked out
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but,
two key calls made me scratch my head, but both worked out perfectly for us:

1) why didn't we go for 2 on the first late TD to try and cut it to 7? If you don't get it you at least know what you need in the final 3 minutes.

2) The early down FG. I had horrible flashbacks to the Atl game when we did the same thing and Hartley missed it. We were jamming the ball down their throats- seems like we should have continued that

Just happy both worked out
1. It is a well accepted philosophy that you never go for two until it is completely necessary. If you go for it on the first TD and fail then the pressure shifts from your opponent needing to protect a one score lead to your team needing to score twice AND stopping your opponent twice.

2. He had confidence in Lutz at that point, obviously. Why take a chance at that point and loss the ball or lose yardage in some manner.
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1. It is a well accepted philosophy that you never go for two until it is completely necessary.
Correct. See Philly vs Dallas .
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:50 PM   #4
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Exactly as Guido said, imagine as we score the first TD, the score is 31-22, if we go for 2 there and fail, the game is pretty much over and Washington have a 9 point lead.

Perfect play call by the way on the 2 point
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They have charts for all that stuff. It tells them what to do factoring in score and time. Not much thought really goes into 2 pt attempts.
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I will criticize Kimara a bit for hanging out with the fans after scoring his TD knowing the Saints had to go for 2.
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I will criticize Kimara a bit for hanging out with the fans after scoring his TD knowing the Saints had to go for 2.
I won't. It was time for the twelfth man, person? to step it way the hell up! Kimara was just getting it cranked up.
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I won't. It was time for the twelfth man, person? to step it way the hell up! Kimara was just getting it cranked up.
Looked at a replay of the game and I withdraw my criticism.

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I like it. He put all the pressure on himself. Especially if he knew the 2 point play call already.
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:25 PM   #10
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Payton should have called the new "Super Dome Special" and faked the winning FG ultimately costing the Saints the game. Just like Seattle!!
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