Don't Fire Payton

ScottF · 11-21-2017, 02:27 PM

but,
two key calls made me scratch my head, but both worked out perfectly for us:

1) why didn't we go for 2 on the first late TD to try and cut it to 7? If you don't get it you at least know what you need in the final 3 minutes.

2) The early down FG. I had horrible flashbacks to the Atl game when we did the same thing and Hartley missed it. We were jamming the ball down their throats- seems like we should have continued that

Just happy both worked out

AsylumGuido · 11-21-2017, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

but,
two key calls made me scratch my head, but both worked out perfectly for us:

1) why didn't we go for 2 on the first late TD to try and cut it to 7? If you don't get it you at least know what you need in the final 3 minutes.

2) The early down FG. I had horrible flashbacks to the Atl game when we did the same thing and Hartley missed it. We were jamming the ball down their throats- seems like we should have continued that

Just happy both worked out

1. It is a well accepted philosophy that you never go for two until it is completely necessary. If you go for it on the first TD and fail then the pressure shifts from your opponent needing to protect a one score lead to your team needing to score twice AND stopping your opponent twice.

2. He had confidence in Lutz at that point, obviously. Why take a chance at that point and loss the ball or lose yardage in some manner.

K Major · 11-21-2017, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

1. It is a well accepted philosophy that you never go for two until it is completely necessary.

Correct. See Philly vs Dallas

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dizzle88 · 11-21-2017, 03:50 PM

Exactly as Guido said, imagine as we score the first TD, the score is 31-22, if we go for 2 there and fail, the game is pretty much over and Washington have a 9 point lead.

Perfect play call by the way on the 2 point

Beastmode · 11-21-2017, 03:57 PM

They have charts for all that stuff. It tells them what to do factoring in score and time. Not much thought really goes into 2 pt attempts.

WhoDat!656 · 11-21-2017, 04:43 PM

I will criticize Kimara a bit for hanging out with the fans after scoring his TD knowing the Saints had to go for 2.

Seer1 · 11-21-2017, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I will criticize Kimara a bit for hanging out with the fans after scoring his TD knowing the Saints had to go for 2.

I won't. It was time for the twelfth man, person? to step it way the hell up! Kimara was just getting it cranked up.

WhoDat!656 · 11-21-2017, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I won't. It was time for the twelfth man, person? to step it way the hell up! Kimara was just getting it cranked up.

Looked at a replay of the game and I withdraw my criticism.

Alvin Kamara crowd TD celebration : Saints vs Redskins Week 11 - YouTube

cmike · 11-21-2017, 05:25 PM

I like it. He put all the pressure on himself. Especially if he knew the 2 point play call already.

vpheughan · 11-21-2017, 06:25 PM

Payton should have called the new "Super Dome Special" and faked the winning FG ultimately costing the Saints the game. Just like Seattle!!

11-21-2017, 02:27 PM	#1
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Don't Fire Payton but, two key calls made me scratch my head, but both worked out perfectly for us: 1) why didn't we go for 2 on the first late TD to try and cut it to 7? If you don't get it you at least know what you need in the final 3 minutes. 2) The early down FG. I had horrible flashbacks to the Atl game when we did the same thing and Hartley missed it. We were jamming the ball down their throats- seems like we should have continued that Just happy both worked out

11-21-2017, 02:46 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Don't Fire Payton Originally Posted by ScottF but, two key calls made me scratch my head, but both worked out perfectly for us: 1) why didn't we go for 2 on the first late TD to try and cut it to 7? If you don't get it you at least know what you need in the final 3 minutes. 2) The early down FG. I had horrible flashbacks to the Atl game when we did the same thing and Hartley missed it. We were jamming the ball down their throats- seems like we should have continued that Just happy both worked out 1. It is a well accepted philosophy that you never go for two until it is completely necessary. If you go for it on the first TD and fail then the pressure shifts from your opponent needing to protect a one score lead to your team needing to score twice AND stopping your opponent twice. 2. He had confidence in Lutz at that point, obviously. Why take a chance at that point and loss the ball or lose yardage in some manner. Halo, Papa Voodoo and SmashMouth like this.

11-21-2017, 03:27 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Don't Fire Payton Originally Posted by AsylumGuido 1. It is a well accepted philosophy that you never go for two until it is completely necessary. Correct. See Philly vs Dallas .

11-21-2017, 03:50 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Don't Fire Payton Exactly as Guido said, imagine as we score the first TD, the score is 31-22, if we go for 2 there and fail, the game is pretty much over and Washington have a 9 point lead. Perfect play call by the way on the 2 point

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Don't Fire Payton They have charts for all that stuff. It tells them what to do factoring in score and time. Not much thought really goes into 2 pt attempts.
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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,047	Re: Don't Fire Payton I will criticize Kimara a bit for hanging out with the fans after scoring his TD knowing the Saints had to go for 2.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Don't Fire Payton Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I will criticize Kimara a bit for hanging out with the fans after scoring his TD knowing the Saints had to go for 2. I won't. It was time for the twelfth man, person? to step it way the hell up! Kimara was just getting it cranked up. cmike and frydaddy like this.

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cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,427	Re: Don't Fire Payton I like it. He put all the pressure on himself. Especially if he knew the 2 point play call already.

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