Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams

11-25-2017, 02:35 PM

We need to finish 5-1 in division. I really would prefer resting starters against bucs than losing to one of the other two. But then again, Atlanta could still get in even if we sweep them and if we have to play them another two weeks later, I would not like those odds. Actually Atlanta would miss the playoffs if they lose to us twice and Minnesota and they are not lock to sweep the bucs or even split with Carolina. 12-4 with a Carolina split means Rodgers has to come back week 15 and beat Carolina.

In fact if Atlanta's fluctuating division record pattern continues, they will go 1-5 like in 2013 and 2015. That one win would be reserved for a Winstonless bucs.

Got off topic here but I would prefer sweeping Carolina over TB. If we go 5-1 in division we will go 12-4 losing one outside division game. Minnesota is currently a 2 loss team and they will lose to either Atlanta or Carolina and if Rodgers is back they will lose at Green Bay. Beating LA means 13-3 and we could take that bye from them. The eagles will lose to Seattle and Dallas remaining, but unless we sweep Carolina we can't win the tie-breaker, and I think they have some bigger wins such as the chargers who could end up 9-7 or 10-6. But 2 or 1 does not matter because eagles lack experience. I don't think we would lose at Minnesota because we already played that defense and we won't be playing Bradford but that's not the point, the point is holding off Carolina for the division. I don't want to go to Seattle or LA in January(most likely Seattle if they win at home). We know the drill with west coast trips.

I see the wild card race shaping up like this if we win division.
Carolina-12-4(one more loss to GB or Minnesota)
LA-10-6(losing to Philadelphia, Seattle, and Tennessee)
GB-10-6(if Rodgers is back week 15)
Atlanta, Dallas, Washington, Detroit are not getting in unless Rodgers does not come back before or against Detroit.
LA is looking at 3-1 AFC South, which screws them in a tie-breaker with either the packers or lions. The packers have already lost one to the AFC and should lose tomorrow at Pittsburgh. The lions have already lost to Pittsburgh and I don't think they win in Baltimore or Cincinatti.

So in the wild card round, we could be hosting Detroit or Green Bay. Playing a hot Rodgers.....no thanks. If LA wins division, even Seattle is screwed in a tie-breaker. That's more reason why winning this week can put that to rest and let's let the vikings deal with Rodgers and we can play Seattle or LA in divisional.

AsylumGuido · 11-25-2017, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We need to finish 5-1 in division. I really would prefer resting starters against bucs than losing to one of the other two. But then again, Atlanta could still get in even if we sweep them and if we have to play them another two weeks later, I would not like those odds. Actually Atlanta would miss the playoffs if they lose to us twice and Minnesota and they are not lock to sweep the bucs or even split with Carolina. 12-4 with a Carolina split means Rodgers has to come back week 15 and beat Carolina.

In fact if Atlanta's fluctuating division record pattern continues, they will go 1-5 like in 2013 and 2015. That one win would be reserved for a Winstonless bucs.

Got off topic here but I would prefer sweeping Carolina over TB. If we go 5-1 in division we will go 12-4 losing one outside division game. Minnesota is currently a 2 loss team and they will lose to either Atlanta or Carolina and if Rodgers is back they will lose at Green Bay. Beating LA means 13-3 and we could take that bye from them. The eagles will lose to Seattle and Dallas remaining, but unless we sweep Carolina we can't win the tie-breaker, and I think they have some bigger wins such as the chargers who could end up 9-7 or 10-6. But 2 or 1 does not matter because eagles lack experience. I don't think we would lose at Minnesota because we already played that defense and we won't be playing Bradford but that's not the point, the point is holding off Carolina for the division. I don't want to go to Seattle or LA in January(most likely Seattle if they win at home). We know the drill with west coast trips.

I see the wild card race shaping up like this if we win division.
Carolina-12-4(one more loss to GB or Minnesota)
LA-10-6(losing to Philadelphia, Seattle, and Tennessee)
GB-10-6(if Rodgers is back week 15)
Atlanta, Dallas, Washington, Detroit are not getting in unless Rodgers does not come back before or against Detroit.
LA is looking at 3-1 AFC South, which screws them in a tie-breaker with either the packers or lions. The packers have already lost one to the AFC and should lose tomorrow at Pittsburgh. The lions have already lost to Pittsburgh and I don't think they win in Baltimore or Cincinatti.

So in the wild card round, we could be hosting Detroit or Green Bay. Playing a hot Rodgers.....no thanks. If LA wins division, even Seattle is screwed in a tie-breaker. That's more reason why winning this week can put that to rest and let's let the vikings deal with Rodgers and we can play Seattle or LA in divisional.

Someone tell me if any of this is worth the time, ok?

Seer1 · 11-25-2017, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Someone tell me if any of this is worth the time, ok?

It never is Guido. However it is worth the time to imagine the looks on anyone's face who actually does try to make sense of his drivel.

RedAlice · 11-26-2017, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

But the Rams are missing their only reliable WR.

Saints look awesome. Lots of challenges for the Rams, however, no way is this statement accurate.

Woods is great, but it’s not like he is the only WR.

Barry from MS · 11-26-2017, 12:32 PM

Stopping Kupp will be huge this game...Goff will look for him even more without Woods.

Austin? Ehh...we've got more speed at safety & LB than before, but Kupp just gets open.

Oh yeah...Stop Gurley Early.

Seer1 · 11-26-2017, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Stopping Kupp will be huge this game...Goff will look for him even more without Woods.

Austin? Ehh...we've got more speed at safety & LB than before, but Kupp just gets open.

Oh yeah...Stop Gurley Early.

Oh hell, just stop all of'em!

hitta · 11-26-2017, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Rams have just as many guys banged up as the Saints. They're super thin at CB as well. Again, I expect a double digit win by the Black and Gold.

While I think we still win, and I agree they are super thin also..... our defense is far more dependent on good CB play than theirs is. We don't get a ton of pressure up front and one of the reasons our defense has done so well is that we've played blanket coverage.

homerj07 · 11-26-2017, 01:55 PM

It was a tough game before this. Now it's even harder. No one is giving us a shot. Obviously both the D and the O need to be "ON" for this game.

ScottF · 11-26-2017, 03:00 PM

Allen really needs to be creative today, and we have to have guys on D taking chances. If we just try to line up on D and play we will be in deep trouble.

This is a game for Brees to win. Yeah, we have run all over everybody, but #9 is still our best weapon. If he doesn't force it today, we outlast them.
Saints 38-35

saintfan · 11-27-2017, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Starting to look like a score-fest. So, bet the under. LOL

Rams' Nickell Robey-Coleman doubtful, but Kayvon Webster expected back - Los Angeles Rams Blog- ESPN

The under won.

11-25-2017, 02:35 PM	#21
Threaded by WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267 Rating: (0 votes - average) We need to finish 5-1 in division. I really would prefer resting starters against bucs than losing to one of the other two. But then again, Atlanta could still get in even if we sweep them and if we have to play them another two weeks later, I would not like those odds. Actually Atlanta would miss the playoffs if they lose to us twice and Minnesota and they are not lock to sweep the bucs or even split with Carolina. 12-4 with a Carolina split means Rodgers has to come back week 15 and beat Carolina. In fact if Atlanta's fluctuating division record pattern continues, they will go 1-5 like in 2013 and 2015. That one win would be reserved for a Winstonless bucs. Got off topic here but I would prefer sweeping Carolina over TB. If we go 5-1 in division we will go 12-4 losing one outside division game. Minnesota is currently a 2 loss team and they will lose to either Atlanta or Carolina and if Rodgers is back they will lose at Green Bay. Beating LA means 13-3 and we could take that bye from them. The eagles will lose to Seattle and Dallas remaining, but unless we sweep Carolina we can't win the tie-breaker, and I think they have some bigger wins such as the chargers who could end up 9-7 or 10-6. But 2 or 1 does not matter because eagles lack experience. I don't think we would lose at Minnesota because we already played that defense and we won't be playing Bradford but that's not the point, the point is holding off Carolina for the division. I don't want to go to Seattle or LA in January(most likely Seattle if they win at home). We know the drill with west coast trips. I see the wild card race shaping up like this if we win division. Carolina-12-4(one more loss to GB or Minnesota) LA-10-6(losing to Philadelphia, Seattle, and Tennessee) GB-10-6(if Rodgers is back week 15) Atlanta, Dallas, Washington, Detroit are not getting in unless Rodgers does not come back before or against Detroit. LA is looking at 3-1 AFC South, which screws them in a tie-breaker with either the packers or lions. The packers have already lost one to the AFC and should lose tomorrow at Pittsburgh. The lions have already lost to Pittsburgh and I don't think they win in Baltimore or Cincinatti. So in the wild card round, we could be hosting Detroit or Green Bay. Playing a hot Rodgers.....no thanks. If LA wins division, even Seattle is screwed in a tie-breaker. That's more reason why winning this week can put that to rest and let's let the vikings deal with Rodgers and we can play Seattle or LA in divisional.
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11-25-2017, 06:53 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We need to finish 5-1 in division. I really would prefer resting starters against bucs than losing to one of the other two. But then again, Atlanta could still get in even if we sweep them and if we have to play them another two weeks later, I would not like those odds. Actually Atlanta would miss the playoffs if they lose to us twice and Minnesota and they are not lock to sweep the bucs or even split with Carolina. 12-4 with a Carolina split means Rodgers has to come back week 15 and beat Carolina. In fact if Atlanta's fluctuating division record pattern continues, they will go 1-5 like in 2013 and 2015. That one win would be reserved for a Winstonless bucs. Got off topic here but I would prefer sweeping Carolina over TB. If we go 5-1 in division we will go 12-4 losing one outside division game. Minnesota is currently a 2 loss team and they will lose to either Atlanta or Carolina and if Rodgers is back they will lose at Green Bay. Beating LA means 13-3 and we could take that bye from them. The eagles will lose to Seattle and Dallas remaining, but unless we sweep Carolina we can't win the tie-breaker, and I think they have some bigger wins such as the chargers who could end up 9-7 or 10-6. But 2 or 1 does not matter because eagles lack experience. I don't think we would lose at Minnesota because we already played that defense and we won't be playing Bradford but that's not the point, the point is holding off Carolina for the division. I don't want to go to Seattle or LA in January(most likely Seattle if they win at home). We know the drill with west coast trips. I see the wild card race shaping up like this if we win division. Carolina-12-4(one more loss to GB or Minnesota) LA-10-6(losing to Philadelphia, Seattle, and Tennessee) GB-10-6(if Rodgers is back week 15) Atlanta, Dallas, Washington, Detroit are not getting in unless Rodgers does not come back before or against Detroit. LA is looking at 3-1 AFC South, which screws them in a tie-breaker with either the packers or lions. The packers have already lost one to the AFC and should lose tomorrow at Pittsburgh. The lions have already lost to Pittsburgh and I don't think they win in Baltimore or Cincinatti. So in the wild card round, we could be hosting Detroit or Green Bay. Playing a hot Rodgers.....no thanks. If LA wins division, even Seattle is screwed in a tie-breaker. That's more reason why winning this week can put that to rest and let's let the vikings deal with Rodgers and we can play Seattle or LA in divisional. Someone tell me if any of this is worth the time, ok?

11-25-2017, 09:07 PM	#23
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Someone tell me if any of this is worth the time, ok? It never is Guido. However it is worth the time to imagine the looks on anyone's face who actually does try to make sense of his drivel.

11-26-2017, 02:01 AM	#24
RedAlice Rookie Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 2	Re: Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams Originally Posted by ChrisXVI But the Rams are missing their only reliable WR. Saints look awesome. Lots of challenges for the Rams, however, no way is this statement accurate. Woods is great, but it’s not like he is the only WR.
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11-26-2017, 12:32 PM	#25
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams Stopping Kupp will be huge this game...Goff will look for him even more without Woods. Austin? Ehh...we've got more speed at safety & LB than before, but Kupp just gets open. Oh yeah...Stop Gurley Early. K Major likes this.

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11-26-2017, 01:42 PM	#26
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams Originally Posted by Barry from MS Stopping Kupp will be huge this game...Goff will look for him even more without Woods. Austin? Ehh...we've got more speed at safety & LB than before, but Kupp just gets open. Oh yeah...Stop Gurley Early. Oh hell, just stop all of'em!

11-26-2017, 01:55 PM	#27
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams Originally Posted by K Major Rams have just as many guys banged up as the Saints. They're super thin at CB as well. Again, I expect a double digit win by the Black and Gold. While I think we still win, and I agree they are super thin also..... our defense is far more dependent on good CB play than theirs is. We don't get a ton of pressure up front and one of the reasons our defense has done so well is that we've played blanket coverage.
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11-26-2017, 01:55 PM	#28
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams It was a tough game before this. Now it's even harder. No one is giving us a shot. Obviously both the D and the O need to be "ON" for this game.

11-26-2017, 03:00 PM	#29
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams Allen really needs to be creative today, and we have to have guys on D taking chances. If we just try to line up on D and play we will be in deep trouble. This is a game for Brees to win. Yeah, we have run all over everybody, but #9 is still our best weapon. If he doesn't force it today, we outlast them. Saints 38-35 saintfan likes this.

11-27-2017, 09:01 AM	#30
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Analysis: No Marshon Lattimore or Ken Crawley means Saints face major challenge vs. pass-happy Rams Originally Posted by saintfan Starting to look like a score-fest. So, bet the under. LOL Rams' Nickell Robey-Coleman doubtful, but Kayvon Webster expected back - Los Angeles Rams Blog- ESPN The under won.

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