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WhoDat!656 11-27-2017 05:44 PM

Brees under-throwing some passes
 
I believe that Brees' passing arm bothered him and affected some of his passes after his arm was hit while passing; the play that Armistead caught the ball.

Hopefully he didn't tear something.

Danno 11-27-2017 06:16 PM

Re: Brees under-throwing some passes
 
But when he over-throws someone does anyone say his arm is too strong?

saintsfan1976 11-27-2017 06:20 PM

Re: Brees under-throwing some passes
 
Brees was inaccurate on a few throws. Notch that one up to the pass rush, not his arm.

billyt81 11-27-2017 07:44 PM

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Brees doesnt seem to have the arm like some guys to hit deep routes off his back foot or a similar situation. The bigger problem is that the Saints WRs are woeful. Thomas is great at a 10yd curl or a quick slant, like one of the best at those routes but hes slow. Hes gotta learn to break some tackles. Dont be quick. Be big. Catch the ball. Head upfield. We really need Snead to step up or Coleman or Tommylee Lewis. Kmara cant make every play. Good Ds will stop the run. Then we need someone to beat man coverage. Well see. WhoDat!

frydaddy 11-27-2017 08:15 PM

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People like to take a few bad throws and make a big deal out of it, but don't have much to say when he's money. I can think of a number of crucial 2nd or 3rd and long situations over the last few games he has come through on. There's nothing wrong with Drew. The O-line failed him a lot, he did make a few bad decisions but that was likely a combination of the pass rush and game situation. That one lame duck throw, who knows what happened there. Maybe the ball came out of his hand wrong, maybe he did get banged up earlier. I'm not concerned with it honestly, sometimes things just happen. Like losing 3 key starters and taking a loss on the road to a good team. We'll get 2 of those guys back soon hopefully and I expect we will start rolling again. Drew will be Drew and things will be ok.

Dilly dilly!

Beastmode 11-27-2017 08:16 PM

Re: Brees under-throwing some passes
 
He can get it down there but they float. Something that has been going on forever and not really an issue since most passes seldom go more than 20 yards. Jarmarcus and Testerverde had all that power and it got them nowhere. A real problem is when it's like Wuefferl who could not do either. Weakest arm I have ever seen in the NFL. How that dude won the Heisman is beyond me. He SUCKED.

44Champs 11-28-2017 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 779150)
He can get it down there but they float. Something that has been going on forever and not really an issue since most passes seldom go more than 20 yards. Jarmarcus and Testerverde had all that power and it got them nowhere. A real problem is when it's like Wuefferl who could not do either. Weakest arm I have ever seen in the NFL. How that dude won the Heisman is beyond me. He SUCKED.

Wuerffel and Steve Walsh sucked. I think Walsh was worse.

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jeanpierre 11-28-2017 03:56 AM

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Let's see, Reconstructive Surgery on his Throwing Shoulder - Check; Approaching 40 Years Old - Check

Look if you don't think his arm is weakening, you're kidding yourself...

That said, I still take Brees over 30 (maybe 29 now that Wentz has progressed) in this league right now...

His experience, leadership, knowledge is superior or equal to the elites of the game this past fifteen years...

hagan714 11-28-2017 04:13 AM

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Drew was pressing it and that is it. he does it every year for a couple of game.

lets hope it is over for the next 2 weeks

Beastmode 11-28-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 779173)
Let's see, Reconstructive Surgery on his Throwing Shoulder - Check; Approaching 40 Years Old - Check

Look if you don't think his arm is weakening, you're kidding yourself...

That said, I still take Brees over 30 (maybe 29 now that Wentz has progressed) in this league right now...

His experience, leadership, knowledge is superior or equal to the elites of the game this past fifteen years...

As long as one is working out there is almost no strength loss even at his age. This has been proven with studies. The loss at that age is cardio. He has always had a less powerful arm but good enough.

papz 11-28-2017 09:14 AM

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This is more about physiology than physical strength.

saintshrimp 11-28-2017 10:13 AM

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You guys are blind if you cant see that his arm strength isnt what it was a few yrs ago. His ablity to throw the deep ball has dropped off .im not saying he cant do it anymore he can just not as often and if you cant see that you don't watch the games must be listening on the radio or something.

Thirty3 11-28-2017 10:18 AM

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Arm strength may be minutely less but the problem is he's taking too long to make the decision on the long throw at times.

K Major 11-28-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 779211)
Arm strength may be minutely less but the problem is he's taking too long to make the decision on the long throw at times.

WR's not named Thomas aren't getting any separation. No one is open.
Romo pointed this out a couple of times on Sunday.

Halo 11-28-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 779213)
WR's not named Thomas aren't getting any separation. No one is open.
Romo pointed this out a couple of times on Sunday.

Bingo! If no one is open, a pocket QB takes a lot more time in the pocket.
The 2017 offensive line is outstanding in run blocking and average at best in pass blocking. It's been like this since week 1.

WillMacKenzie 11-28-2017 11:25 AM

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Does anyone think Payton decided to beef up the run game for no reason?

Surely he is a pass-first coach. So why waste the resources on the run game?

Does Sean see something we don't see?

Maybe? Just my observations

dizzle88 11-28-2017 01:15 PM

Re: Brees under-throwing some passes
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 779213)
WR's not named Thomas aren't getting any separation. No one is open.
Romo pointed this out a couple of times on Sunday.

Exactly what I said in another thread, receivers not named Michael Thomas are letting us down. Ginn, Coleman or snead cannot create separation.

We need better receivers.

st thomas 11-28-2017 01:26 PM

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just a reminder back in the draft i wanted payton to draft conner culp, the kid wasnt from a big program but plays huge, and he sure got separation against our crew.

Papa Voodoo 11-28-2017 01:36 PM

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Our O line was getting blown up. Ingram wasn't finding holes. Kamara had some good runs, however it wasn't like we were dominating and stopped running. We couldn't run or pass.

K Major 11-28-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 779235)
just a reminder back in the draft i wanted payton to draft conner culp, the kid wasnt from a big program but plays huge, and he sure got separation against our crew.

I had to laugh on this one. Connor Culp is actually still in school (LSU Tigers) as a place kicker but I knew you meant Cooper Kupp (Rams WR). These two get mixed up all the time by CBS/ESPN analyst.

Read here what scouts stated were Kupp's biggest weakness:

WEAKNESSES A little upright though his routes. Lateral quickness out of breaks underneath provide no early separation. Operated as big slot but could lack separation quickness to open clean throwing windows underneath for NFL quarterbacks. Build-up runner who doesn't seem to eat up the early cushion. Some scouts question ability to be a productive starter as outside receiver. Excessive fakes and jukes into breaks at times; will need to win with more efficient routes. Protracted gear-down getting into breaks for deep comebacks.

He's been the exact opposite.

Rugby Saint II 11-28-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 779131)
But when he over-throws someone does anyone say his arm is too strong?

Nope! He seldom over throws a receiver..........he does occasionally under throw his fair share of deep balls though.

Budsdrinker 11-28-2017 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 779170)
Wuerffel and Steve Walsh sucked. I think Walsh was worse.

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And somehow they both were Saints QB's

voodooido 11-28-2017 05:54 PM

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Two qbs in this league better than Brees and one can't stay healthy. Give me an accurate but weakened arm Brees over 30 other starters.

vpheughan 11-29-2017 10:19 AM

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"Who's our QB kids? Drew Brees.............."

SmashMouth 11-29-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 779256)
And somehow they both were Saints QB's

And we actually traded a number one pick for Walsh.... WTF!

vpheughan 11-29-2017 11:34 AM

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Yeah!! Karl Sweetan "Pssst! Wanna Buy An NFL Team Playbook?" was Saint QB too!! LMAO!!!!

K Major 11-29-2017 11:44 AM

Re: Brees under-throwing some passes
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 779133)
Brees was inaccurate on a few throws. Notch that one up to the pass rush, not his arm.

+1. Rams interior pressure has historically given Brees fits. Brockers and Donald were bringing it all game.

Brees will play better vs Carolina.


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