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4everSaint 12-04-2017 09:05 PM

How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
We know he is special. But how special is this kid? I really think we have a future LT type guy on our hands. This guy just has the stuff. I’ve always been a fan of the running game. For whatever reason I just love watching a beautiful run play. And this kid, my goodness, does he not make running the ball look amazing. I will quote my wife. She said, “he looks like poetry in motion.”

He needs to hold up the hurdles a bit. They look awesome when he lands on his feet but not so much when he landed on his head Sunday.

44Champs 12-05-2017 08:00 AM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
Special K

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papz 12-05-2017 08:06 AM

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ChrisXVI 12-05-2017 11:22 AM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
He’s no Taysom Hill.

billyt81 12-05-2017 12:07 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
Kmara is the most unique talent Ive ever seen. He is slower than Reggie Bush. He is probably thinner than Reggie too. He isnt nearly the polished route runner that Reggie showed up as. Which rookie had a better year? Reggie caught 90 passes his rookie year, an NFL rookie RB record he still holds. Not many TDs though. Kmara runs up the middle. He runs through tackles but he doesnt juke guys or lower his head. I can think of no former RB he reminds me of. Marshal Faulk, Reggie, Eric Metcalf are similar in result but not in style. Maybe a little like James Brooks from Cinncinatti. Hes definetely the next great Saints back. I watched Dalton, Ricky, Deuce and Reggie to name my favorites. Kmara started the game vs Carolina, one of the best defenses with possibly the best LBs in the league. Pregame all they talked about was stopping Kmara. They failed. Recently his dominance has reminded me of stretches Jimmy Graham had in his prime. Kmara looks like one of the best weapons in the NFL. Leveon Bell might be better I guess. Wait until he refines his route running and we can throw him some deep balls. I wanna see him get 20 carries one day. Either way he basically never leaves the field. Glad we have him.

44Champs 12-05-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 780530)
Kmara is the most unique talent Ive ever seen. He is slower than Reggie Bush. He is probably thinner than Reggie too. He isnt nearly the polished route runner that Reggie showed up as. Which rookie had a better year? Reggie caught 90 passes his rookie year, an NFL rookie RB record he still holds. Not many TDs though. Kmara runs up the middle. He runs through tackles but he doesnt juke guys or lower his head. I can think of no former RB he reminds me of. Marshal Faulk, Reggie, Eric Metcalf are similar in result but not in style. Maybe a little like James Brooks from Cinncinatti. Hes definetely the next great Saints back. I watched Dalton, Ricky, Deuce and Reggie to name my favorites. Kmara started the game vs Carolina, one of the best defenses with possibly the best LBs in the league. Pregame all they talked about was stopping Kmara. They failed. Recently his dominance has reminded me of stretches Jimmy Graham had in his prime. Kmara looks like one of the best weapons in the NFL. Leveon Bell might be better I guess. Wait until he refines his route running and we can throw him some deep balls. I wanna see him get 20 carries one day. Either way he basically never leaves the field. Glad we have him.

Totally agree with this billyt. He has a unique style all his own with a rare combination of speed, quickness, vision, balance and strength. On top of that he is a quick learner and is already a great blocker. You can tell that Brees and SP trust him completely, willing to put the ball in his hands on 4th down and on 2-point conversions.

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Beastmode 12-05-2017 12:45 PM

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Fairly difficult to stop. Stacking the box doesn't work either. The blocking is outstanding and he slips through it almost every single time. And if he believes he is Neo then he is Neo of the Matrix. Tell yourself something long enough and eventually you start believing it and everyone else starts believing it. Even Ingram is starting to say stuff about his own "Matrix" abilities and changing up his run style instead of trying to plow over people. It's real. If you watched his big run he slowed down then speed up which he almost NEVER does. Got another 20 yards out of it.

dam1953 12-05-2017 01:25 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 780539)
Fairly difficult to stop. Stacking the box doesn't work either. The blocking is outstanding and he slips through it almost every single time. And if he believes he is Neo then he is Neo of the Matrix. Tell yourself something long enough and eventually you start believing it and everyone else starts believing it. Even Ingram is starting to say stuff about his own "Matrix" abilities and changing up his run style instead of trying to plow over people. It's real. If you watched his big run he slowed down then speed up which he almost NEVER does. Got another 20 yards out of it.

The kid is the complete package. I think I've watched the Carolina highlights 20 times. The final screen pass was shear poetry. His vision to see the crease opening behind the blocking \ and his acceleration to take advantage of it may be what really separates him from the masses. It was as if Carolina's LBs were in slow motion.

Kamara had gone "bullet time".....

saintsfan1976 12-05-2017 03:58 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
See the Special Man.

"Let 'em have it!"

homerj07 12-05-2017 04:06 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
Vision. The kid sees holes that other backs would miss and is able to hit them hard.

Balance. I've never seen anyone with balance like that. It is extrodinary to watch.

RailBoss 12-05-2017 05:10 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
Kamara is a special player and would like to see him stay that way.
The thing that worries me is when he dives over players. In the Carolina
game he came down and landed on his neck. When you go airborne
too much in the NFL, odds are you are more susceptible to serious injury.

nola_swammi 12-05-2017 05:28 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 780530)
Kmara is the most unique talent Ive ever seen. He is slower than Reggie Bush. He is probably thinner than Reggie too. He isnt nearly the polished route runner that Reggie showed up as. Which rookie had a better year? Reggie caught 90 passes his rookie year, an NFL rookie RB record he still holds. Not many TDs though. Kmara runs up the middle. He runs through tackles but he doesnt juke guys or lower his head. I can think of no former RB he reminds me of. Marshal Faulk, Reggie, Eric Metcalf are similar in result but not in style. Maybe a little like James Brooks from Cinncinatti. Hes definetely the next great Saints back. I watched Dalton, Ricky, Deuce and Reggie to name my favorites. Kmara started the game vs Carolina, one of the best defenses with possibly the best LBs in the league. Pregame all they talked about was stopping Kmara. They failed. Recently his dominance has reminded me of stretches Jimmy Graham had in his prime. Kmara looks like one of the best weapons in the NFL. Leveon Bell might be better I guess. Wait until he refines his route running and we can throw him some deep balls. I wanna see him get 20 carries one day. Either way he basically never leaves the field. Glad we have him.

He is indeed slower than Bush but that is it. Kamara is bigger, matter of fact the kid is 215 while Bush was 205. Running routes is yet to be determine but his hands are just as great if not better at catching. The only reason he is not catching 90 balls like Bush is that he is a far better runner than Bush. Bush didn't attack the hole up the middle, he always wanted to bounce out and out run you. Kamara attack holes, tremendous balance, deceptive speed, very elusive and deceptive power. As for deep balls, I seen a couple of those he caught but it can be clearly forgotten after all the highlights he do every week. If I was to compare him to anyone it would be Walter Payton & Marshal Faulk but he very unique because of that balance he have like Sproles. I don't believe we seen everything he has to offer

The Dude 12-05-2017 05:42 PM

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He is good but I doubt he will ever be great unless there is another back for him to share the load with. He also plays like an injury waiting to happen.

foreverfan 12-05-2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 780586)
Vision. The kid sees holes that other backs would miss and is able to hit them hard.

Balance. I've never seen anyone with balance like that. It is extrodinary to watch.

And the OL opens holes that both backs find extremely easy. :D

dam1953 12-05-2017 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 780603)
He is indeed slower than Bush but that is it. Kamara is bigger, matter of fact the kid is 215 while Bush was 205. Running routes is yet to be determine but his hands are just as great if not better at catching. The only reason he is not catching 90 balls like Bush is that he is a far better runner than Bush. Bush didn't attack the hole up the middle, he always wanted to bounce out and out run you. Kamara attack holes, tremendous balance, deceptive speed, very elusive and deceptive power. As for deep balls, I seen a couple of those he caught but it can be clearly forgotten after all the highlights he do every week. If I was to compare him to anyone it would be Walter Payton & Marshal Faulk but he very unique because of that balance he have like Sproles. I don't believe we seen everything he has to offer

Kamara also has a knack of shedding tackles. Could be that his speed is deceptive and tacklers take bad angles. Whatever it is, teams are having a really hard time wrapping him up. Carolina looked particularly bad.

turbo_dog 12-05-2017 06:11 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 780586)
Vision. The kid sees holes that other backs would miss and is able to hit them hard.

Balance. I've never seen anyone with balance like that. It is extrodinary to watch.

Absolutely agree. It looks clear to me that Mark Ingram has learned some patience and vision from Kamara, which has made him a better runner now.

I'm bursting with excitement watching these two!!! And let's not forget to give some credit to the big uglies in the trench!


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MarchingOn 12-05-2017 06:29 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
That goal line hit where he was smacked, recovered, and powered into the endzone was due to balance. PT kind of balance. Maybe the most impressive play he's made to date.

SaintGnome 12-05-2017 06:43 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
He is unique. If he can stay healthy (which is sure as hell is no given) he will have a HOF career (stay on the ground dude!). I've been racking my brain thinking of a HOF'er to compare him to. He doesn't have the raw speed and athleticism of Reggie type RB (not saying Reggae Bush is HoF material, to be clear), he doesn't have the crazy legs style like a Sanders, Dickerson, or Walter Payton. He's not big strong brute like Campbell or Peterson either. The closest I can think of is Marshall Faulk. Maybe not quite as fast, and maybe a little stronger.
On that first TD of the Kitties game the LB HAD him. Squared him. Denied him. Yet he still managed to score. Wow.

Seer1 12-05-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MarchingOn (Post 780621)
That goal line hit where he was smacked, recovered, and powered into the endzone was due to balance. PT kind of balance. Maybe the most impressive play he's made to date.

Simply amazing!

Utah_Saint 12-05-2017 07:16 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
He finds holes like a little guy but blows through arm tackles like a big guy. Like Homer said, his balance is amazing.

44Champs 12-05-2017 07:43 PM

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I'll say it again: Special K
That's his name

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Euphoria 12-05-2017 07:48 PM

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Just when I think his best play was leaping over a player... he tips tips tips a ball between 4-5 players who try and tackle him but he makes it to the endzone and then showes every bit what he is capable of on the goal line of the panthers.

turbo_dog 12-06-2017 05:45 AM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 780625)
He is unique. If he can stay healthy (which is sure as hell is no given) he will have a HOF career (stay on the ground dude!). I've been racking my brain thinking of a HOF'er to compare him to. He doesn't have the raw speed and athleticism of Reggie type RB (not saying Reggae Bush is HoF material, to be clear), he doesn't have the crazy legs style like a Sanders, Dickerson, or Walter Payton. He's not big strong brute like Campbell or Peterson either. The closest I can think of is Marshall Faulk. Maybe not quite as fast, and maybe a little stronger.
On that first TD of the Kitties game the LB HAD him. Squared him. Denied him. Yet he still managed to score. Wow.

I see quite a bit of resemblance to Marcus Allen.

SmashMouth 12-06-2017 10:28 AM

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vpheughan 12-06-2017 10:35 AM

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Good enough to trade away a future draft choice for! Oh wait, I forgot "Rookie Contract" LOL

SmashMouth 12-06-2017 10:38 AM

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SmashMouth 12-06-2017 12:34 PM

Re: How special is Alvin Kamara?
 
Kamara is from the Norcross area. Does that mean he was a FailClowns fan?

ChrisXVI 12-06-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 780740)
Kamara is from the Norcross area. Does that mean he was a FailClowns fan?

Yeah I think he was. This little tweet from 5 years ago surfaced recently...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQPChr4VwAAfqjh.jpg:large

No big deal though. The kid was in high school still.

SmashMouth 12-06-2017 01:46 PM

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Alvin Kamara joins exclusive 600-600 club – ProFootballTalk

nola_swammi 12-06-2017 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 780742)
Yeah I think he was. This little tweet from 5 years ago surfaced recently...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQPChr4VwAAfqjh.jpg:large

No big deal though. The kid was in high school still.

Dayum! If people can pull up tweets from that many years, when he was a nobody in high school, that should let people know the importance in watch what you tweet. DONT PRESS SEND

Saint in Aus 12-06-2017 05:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 780586)
Vision. The kid sees holes that other backs would miss and is able to hit them hard.

Balance. I've never seen anyone with balance like that. It is extrodinary to watch.

Strange analogy but he reminds me a lot of Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee saw 5 steps ahead and used the movement of his opponent to counter. This is exactly what Kamara does, not only does he see the movement of his immediate opponent and anticipate but he sees the movement of the next guy etc. It's why he sees things others don't and pushes so far per carry. Incredible to watch.

MarchingOn 12-06-2017 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 780742)
Yeah I think he was. This little tweet from 5 years ago surfaced recently...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQPChr4VwAAfqjh.jpg:large

No big deal though. The kid was in high school still.

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Forgiven :)

Seer1 12-06-2017 07:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 780740)
Kamara is from the Norcross area. Does that mean he was a FailClowns fan?

Betcha he won't be tomorrow!


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