denver trade rumor

LKelley67 · 04-17-2005, 04:17 PM

if i could have any db in this draft i would take rolle first.

BRSaintsFan · 04-17-2005, 04:20 PM

the thing i like about davis is that i think he will thrive at safety...however because he is versatile we can try him at LB and if it doesnt pan out then we can groom him as Jay Bellamy\'s replacement at SS. Rolle is a similiar player. But when you look at SS you are looking for bigger guys that can cover TEs and guys that can come up and be a huge factor in run support...i tihnk that rolle could thrive at the FS spot but seeing that we already have Dwight Smith manning that position, I would say keep Rolle at corner and let him be physical.

SaintSnide · 04-17-2005, 04:22 PM

If we got the 26 for a first next year then i would look at somethin like this. Assuming no trades with howard or moving up, both of which are likely to happen.

16-T. Davis SS
26-K. Barnes OT
40-Ruud (or best available LB)

Now if we can get say oakland 2nd pick 38 for howard.
38- Best LB
40- Best Dt
or vise versa

While I like the possiblity of getting Rolle, I like getting two posible starters over one. So I would rather Davis and Barnes over just Rolle.

BRSaintsFan · 04-17-2005, 04:23 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...len&id=2038751

One NFC team views Antrel Rolle of Miami, yeah, the cornerback, as the premier free safety candidate in the draft pool.

baronm · 04-17-2005, 04:23 PM

my dream would be to somehow get both..and then in the second go for our linebackers...and then look at tackles...then at quarterbacks, etc.

next year the tackle I really want is coming out..and he is much better than even baron-I con\'t rembember how to spell his name-

chRxis · 04-17-2005, 05:42 PM

in my opinion, 16th pick is t. davis, ss, ga., then 2nd rd. get k. burnett, lb, tenn., 3rd rd. get a. terry or m. roos, ot, syr and e. mich, 4th get a. mcpherson, qb, fla. st..... if we get another 2nd get ot then

baronm · 04-17-2005, 05:49 PM

in my opinion, 16th pick is t. davis, ss, ga., then 2nd rd. get k. burnett, lb, tenn., 3rd rd. get a. terry or m. roos, ot, syr and e. mich, 4th get a. mcpherson, qb, fla. st..... if we get another 2nd get ot then

agreed-exept-scratch macpherson..i\'d rather have a guy that could make it on a college team...and get Le flours or fitzgerald, or even the NCAA all-time winningest quarterback Greene...(or is it just SEC...either way)

and I do want Roos..but I think terry will be gone as will burett:

how bout:
1. davis
2. ruud/burnett
2b. terry
3. ot-roos
4. quarterback-fitzgerald or green
5. dt
6. bpa
7. bpa

chRxis · 04-17-2005, 05:58 PM

i\'m not really with the idea of bringing in a mlb... we have watson and grant there already (i know, grant is a big ?) but if we draft another mlb, then watson goes to the outside and has to pretty much start all over again making progress at olb... i say get a proven olb, a la kevin burnett, who is a life long saint fan i might add, or even a pure athlete who will surely pick up olb quickly, thomas davis.... i really think mcpherson has learned his lesson.... i don\'t know too many intelligent people who go around touching hot stoves 2 and 3 times before learning the lesson, with that said mcpherson has been \"burned\" before and i don\'t see n.o. as another stove for him.... but, i\'ve been wrong before....

chRxis · 04-17-2005, 06:03 PM

i\'m sorry, but that wonderlic test ain\'t exactly the hardest thing in the world... and just b/c fitzgerald scored a perfect everyone is on this kid\'s bandwagon... honestly, before that score came out, had you ever heard of him? i haven\'t and i\'m an avid college football fan, even of d 1-aa (Go northwestern st. demons!!!) i just think everyone makes so much of these stupid numbers that they forget what they\'ve actually done on the field.... i\'ve said it before, give me someone can go out there and play 60 min. of solid football, not someone who can go out there in short and a t-shirt and run a forty or bench press a volvo... those things are nice, but it comes down to what the player can do on the field, not at the combine...

baronm · 04-17-2005, 06:15 PM

i\'ve said it before, give me someone can go out there and play 60 min. of solid football, not someone who can go out there in short and a t-shirt and run a forty or bench press a volvo

another reason I don\'t want Mapherson-he could play at FSU-if you are any good, FSU will let you get away with murder or close to it..remember the guy who got a free shopping spree from footlocker? there are many more examples. the guy simply has too many question marks for a first day pick-where someone will take him.

I want ruud for the same reason-he\'s a football player..and as much as I don\'t want to give up experience in the middle, and like burnett-also a football player...but I don\'t think burnett will be there...if he is by all means-take him over ruud and leave watson in the middle.

04-17-2005, 04:17 PM	#11
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	denver trade rumor if i could have any db in this draft i would take rolle first.

04-17-2005, 04:20 PM	#12
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	denver trade rumor the thing i like about davis is that i think he will thrive at safety...however because he is versatile we can try him at LB and if it doesnt pan out then we can groom him as Jay Bellamy\'s replacement at SS. Rolle is a similiar player. But when you look at SS you are looking for bigger guys that can cover TEs and guys that can come up and be a huge factor in run support...i tihnk that rolle could thrive at the FS spot but seeing that we already have Dwight Smith manning that position, I would say keep Rolle at corner and let him be physical.

04-17-2005, 04:22 PM	#13
SaintSnide Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pineville Posts: 72	denver trade rumor If we got the 26 for a first next year then i would look at somethin like this. Assuming no trades with howard or moving up, both of which are likely to happen. 16-T. Davis SS 26-K. Barnes OT 40-Ruud (or best available LB) Now if we can get say oakland 2nd pick 38 for howard. 38- Best LB 40- Best Dt or vise versa While I like the possiblity of getting Rolle, I like getting two posible starters over one. So I would rather Davis and Barnes over just Rolle.

04-17-2005, 04:23 PM	#14
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	denver trade rumor http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...len&id=2038751 One NFC team views Antrel Rolle of Miami, yeah, the cornerback, as the premier free safety candidate in the draft pool.

04-17-2005, 04:23 PM	#15
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	denver trade rumor my dream would be to somehow get both..and then in the second go for our linebackers...and then look at tackles...then at quarterbacks, etc. next year the tackle I really want is coming out..and he is much better than even baron-I con\'t rembember how to spell his name-
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04-17-2005, 05:42 PM	#16
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	denver trade rumor in my opinion, 16th pick is t. davis, ss, ga., then 2nd rd. get k. burnett, lb, tenn., 3rd rd. get a. terry or m. roos, ot, syr and e. mich, 4th get a. mcpherson, qb, fla. st..... if we get another 2nd get ot then

04-17-2005, 05:49 PM	#17
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	denver trade rumor in my opinion, 16th pick is t. davis, ss, ga., then 2nd rd. get k. burnett, lb, tenn., 3rd rd. get a. terry or m. roos, ot, syr and e. mich, 4th get a. mcpherson, qb, fla. st..... if we get another 2nd get ot then agreed-exept-scratch macpherson..i\'d rather have a guy that could make it on a college team...and get Le flours or fitzgerald, or even the NCAA all-time winningest quarterback Greene...(or is it just SEC...either way) and I do want Roos..but I think terry will be gone as will burett: how bout: 1. davis 2. ruud/burnett 2b. terry 3. ot-roos 4. quarterback-fitzgerald or green 5. dt 6. bpa 7. bpa
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04-17-2005, 05:58 PM	#18
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	denver trade rumor i\'m not really with the idea of bringing in a mlb... we have watson and grant there already (i know, grant is a big ?) but if we draft another mlb, then watson goes to the outside and has to pretty much start all over again making progress at olb... i say get a proven olb, a la kevin burnett, who is a life long saint fan i might add, or even a pure athlete who will surely pick up olb quickly, thomas davis.... i really think mcpherson has learned his lesson.... i don\'t know too many intelligent people who go around touching hot stoves 2 and 3 times before learning the lesson, with that said mcpherson has been \"burned\" before and i don\'t see n.o. as another stove for him.... but, i\'ve been wrong before....

04-17-2005, 06:03 PM	#19
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	denver trade rumor i\'m sorry, but that wonderlic test ain\'t exactly the hardest thing in the world... and just b/c fitzgerald scored a perfect everyone is on this kid\'s bandwagon... honestly, before that score came out, had you ever heard of him? i haven\'t and i\'m an avid college football fan, even of d 1-aa (Go northwestern st. demons!!!) i just think everyone makes so much of these stupid numbers that they forget what they\'ve actually done on the field.... i\'ve said it before, give me someone can go out there and play 60 min. of solid football, not someone who can go out there in short and a t-shirt and run a forty or bench press a volvo... those things are nice, but it comes down to what the player can do on the field, not at the combine...

04-17-2005, 06:15 PM	#20
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	denver trade rumor i\'ve said it before, give me someone can go out there and play 60 min. of solid football, not someone who can go out there in short and a t-shirt and run a forty or bench press a volvo another reason I don\'t want Mapherson-he could play at FSU-if you are any good, FSU will let you get away with murder or close to it..remember the guy who got a free shopping spree from footlocker? there are many more examples. the guy simply has too many question marks for a first day pick-where someone will take him. I want ruud for the same reason-he\'s a football player..and as much as I don\'t want to give up experience in the middle, and like burnett-also a football player...but I don\'t think burnett will be there...if he is by all means-take him over ruud and leave watson in the middle.
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