What we learned from our loss on Thursday night

blackangold · 12-07-2017, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

No the play was to throw directly to the Tight End in the end zone over the middle. The safety valve is to throw to the runningback if Brees had pressure.
We ran this play with Jimmy Graham for years. Problem is, we have no Jimmy Graham's anymore.

It's a stupid play call. Run some clock, run the ball, why call a play to throw into double coverage?
On the following drive SP runs out on the field and lost his cool with a ref after the fumble they recovered.
Sorry but SP lost his cool and his nerve tonight.

I agree Brees has no WR/TE weapons... hell Thomas is really only a possession guy, but Brees knows better than to throw that ball. You could tell by his expression that he knew it was on him.

Regardless, the better team lost tonight. It pisses me off because this basically ensures we won’t get a first round bye. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games.

WillSaints81 · 12-08-2017, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I agree Brees has no WR/TE weapons... hell Thomas is really only a possession guy, but Brees knows better than to throw that ball. You could tell by his expression that he knew it was on him.

Regardless, the better team lost tonight. It pisses me off because this basically ensures we won’t get a first round bye. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games.

We can still get a first round bye. We have an easier remaining schedule than Minnesota. But Minnesota has to lose week 15 to Cincinatti.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-09-2017, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We can still get a first round bye. We have an easier remaining schedule than Minnesota. But Minnesota has to lose week 15 to Cincinatti.

Three items.

1. Your prediction of a division loss has come true unfortunately. I guess it ended up being the right call.

2. That loss throws playoff positioning out the window. The organization should (and we should too) put it completely out of our minds because the only playoff position the Saints now controls is #4. And no matter how the rest of the games shake out this weekend, because of the loss the Saints will not be in a position for a bye.

At this point the team is in a 7 game playoff with a home game in the wildcard round. Anything else is gravy. I just hope that we've learned some new lessons from the road losses to two of the three playoff teams ahead of us in the standings. It's likely we may be in Minnesota for the divisional round of the playoffs.

3. Thanks for no more loss predicitions. We can get the best positioning by running the table for the last 3 games. We are still in control of the South. BTW everything in #2 is based on winning out.

SFIAH

K Major · 12-09-2017, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Three items.

1. Your prediction of a division loss has come true unfortunately. I guess it ended up being the right call.

2. That loss throws playoff positioning out the window. The organization should (and we should too) put it completely out of our minds because the only playoff position the Saints now controls is #4. And no matter how the rest of the games shake out this weekend, because of the loss the Saints will not be in a position for a bye.

Hopefully WillSaints81 reads this before posting another "what if" scenario.

WillSaints81 · 12-09-2017, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Hopefully WillSaints81 reads this before posting another "what if" scenario.

I don't think we will end up a 4. LA and Philadelphia are playing each other this week. I don't need to post a what if scenario for that.

gulfgambler · 12-08-2017, 06:47 PM

. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games.[/QUOTE]

And who do you want to play QB and call plays to get those 3 wins?

AsylumGuido · 12-08-2017, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games.

And who do you want to play QB and call plays to get those 3 wins?[/QUOTE]

What are you trying to say?

gulfgambler · 12-08-2017, 08:08 PM

Payton has never gotten off the hook from me, but this game wasn’t in him as much. Brees held the ball too long all game and made some poor decisions to boot. Carmichael is still the better play caller.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And who do you want to play QB and call plays to get those 3 wins?

What are you trying to say?[/QUOTE]

This was a partial quote from B&G and a question for B&G

RockyMountainSaint · 12-09-2017, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I agree Brees has no WR/TE weapons... hell Thomas is really only a possession guy, but Brees knows better than to throw that ball. You could tell by his expression that he knew it was on him.

Regardless, the better team lost tonight. It pisses me off because this basically ensures we won’t get a first round bye. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games.

If you look at the trend of run/pass over the last 4 games, you will see that SP is in SP mode.

Run? Meh, I guess I have to do that occasionally.

Pass?
What do you think Drew?
Helz Yeah Buddy!

Woo Hoo!!!!

We're smarter than everyone else!!!!!!

8-2 becomes 9-7

12-07-2017, 11:41 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by Halo No the play was to throw directly to the Tight End in the end zone over the middle. The safety valve is to throw to the runningback if Brees had pressure. We ran this play with Jimmy Graham for years. Problem is, we have no Jimmy Graham's anymore. It's a stupid play call. Run some clock, run the ball, why call a play to throw into double coverage? On the following drive SP runs out on the field and lost his cool with a ref after the fumble they recovered. Sorry but SP lost his cool and his nerve tonight. I agree Brees has no WR/TE weapons... hell Thomas is really only a possession guy, but Brees knows better than to throw that ball. You could tell by his expression that he knew it was on him. Regardless, the better team lost tonight. It pisses me off because this basically ensures we won’t get a first round bye. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games.

12-09-2017, 10:35 AM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We can still get a first round bye. We have an easier remaining schedule than Minnesota. But Minnesota has to lose week 15 to Cincinatti. Three items. 1. Your prediction of a division loss has come true unfortunately. I guess it ended up being the right call. 2. That loss throws playoff positioning out the window. The organization should (and we should too) put it completely out of our minds because the only playoff position the Saints now controls is #4. And no matter how the rest of the games shake out this weekend, because of the loss the Saints will not be in a position for a bye. At this point the team is in a 7 game playoff with a home game in the wildcard round. Anything else is gravy. I just hope that we've learned some new lessons from the road losses to two of the three playoff teams ahead of us in the standings. It's likely we may be in Minnesota for the divisional round of the playoffs. 3. Thanks for no more loss predicitions. We can get the best positioning by running the table for the last 3 games. We are still in control of the South. BTW everything in #2 is based on winning out. SFIAH K Major likes this.
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12-09-2017, 11:49 PM	#5
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,278	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by K Major Hopefully WillSaints81 reads this before posting another "what if" scenario. I don't think we will end up a 4. LA and Philadelphia are playing each other this week. I don't need to post a what if scenario for that.

12-08-2017, 06:47 PM	#6
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night . Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games.[/QUOTE] And who do you want to play QB and call plays to get those 3 wins?

12-08-2017, 07:17 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by gulfgambler . Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games. And who do you want to play QB and call plays to get those 3 wins?[/QUOTE] What are you trying to say?

12-08-2017, 10:27 AM	#2
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,278	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by blackangold I agree Brees has no WR/TE weapons... hell Thomas is really only a possession guy, but Brees knows better than to throw that ball. You could tell by his expression that he knew it was on him. Regardless, the better team lost tonight. It pisses me off because this basically ensures we won’t get a first round bye. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games. We can still get a first round bye. We have an easier remaining schedule than Minnesota. But Minnesota has to lose week 15 to Cincinatti.

12-09-2017, 11:41 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Three items. 1. Your prediction of a division loss has come true unfortunately. I guess it ended up being the right call. 2. That loss throws playoff positioning out the window. The organization should (and we should too) put it completely out of our minds because the only playoff position the Saints now controls is #4. And no matter how the rest of the games shake out this weekend, because of the loss the Saints will not be in a position for a bye. Hopefully WillSaints81 reads this before posting another "what if" scenario.

12-08-2017, 08:08 PM	#8
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Payton has never gotten off the hook from me, but this game wasn’t in him as much. Brees held the ball too long all game and made some poor decisions to boot. Carmichael is still the better play caller.[/QUOTE] Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And who do you want to play QB and call plays to get those 3 wins? What are you trying to say?[/QUOTE] This was a partial quote from B&G and a question for B&G

12-09-2017, 02:33 AM	#9
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by blackangold I agree Brees has no WR/TE weapons... hell Thomas is really only a possession guy, but Brees knows better than to throw that ball. You could tell by his expression that he knew it was on him. Regardless, the better team lost tonight. It pisses me off because this basically ensures we won’t get a first round bye. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games. If you look at the trend of run/pass over the last 4 games, you will see that SP is in SP mode. Run? Meh, I guess I have to do that occasionally. Pass? What do you think Drew? Helz Yeah Buddy! Woo Hoo!!!! We're smarter than everyone else!!!!!! 8-2 becomes 9-7