Run The F**king Ball, Sean!

RailBoss · 12-08-2017, 02:46 AM

Horses A$$...

dizzle88 · 12-08-2017, 05:13 AM

SP did the same last week vs Carolina.

Had a chance to get a long drive going up by 10 points, on 3rd and 1 at our own 25 yard lin he calls play action pass and Brees gets sacked. He was bailed out by a fumble on a punt return the next play.

SP made some real bad play calls by not running the ball, but this one falls squarely on Brees. He had the game in his hands, ATL was getting outside push but not much up front and he just wouldn't step up.

He's been missing wide open throws a lot this season.

We need to play lights out the next 3 games, if ATL and Carolina get on a win streak we are in for a bad end to December.

spkb25 · 12-08-2017, 06:14 AM

It was a bad decision by drew. That's what it was. Halo description of near suicide is accurate. You could run almost anything, but to run that...and to throw that with so much on the line and at leasta tie already guaranteed just makes 0 sense. If it is nipping at us this much as fans, I bet Drew hasn't come close to letting it go. He will, but I can guarantee he hasn't yet.

With everything the refs did we had that game in the bag with less than 2 minutes to go and it is upsetting because of that. We now need to get healthy because this is a really good team we have and if we can get healthy I think we are looking at 12-4 let the chips fall.

WhoDat!656 · 12-08-2017, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Watch the play drew checks it down to ingram on that plat he probally scores hes wide open. So he was healty to be in the game

Drew Brees on interception: “I should have checked down” – ProFootballTalk

K Major · 12-08-2017, 09:46 AM

Saints really need a TE for 2018. Put that high on the list of "needs" this off season.

WillSaints81 · 12-08-2017, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Ingram was hurt you guys... he was questionable before the game with toe issues, gameplan was likely heavily on Kamara. Ingram got even more banged up during the game. I don’t blame the calls on the last drive... that was all brees.

Then he should not have been taking first down carries...

If there is one thing I observed, it is that Brees throws shorter passes than before, and is more susceptible to sacks than before. That's not on SP except for the fact that he isn't accommodating Drew. Drew is getting sacked on crucial third downs quite a few times this season and that's mostly a result of running the ball for little gains on first down or loss of yards, which puts the offense in a hole.

Passes get completed, but mostly they are screens to RBs and WRs. Short-yardage catches that don't result in first downs are an issue.

Another problem is the Oline not being disciplined enough because we always get too many offensive penalties. That could be the difference without Streif. He is not in there to set that team straight. That's a mostly young and immature oline.

WillSaints81 · 12-08-2017, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Black, my point is we shouldn't have even been passing at that point regardless...

In all honesty, if Ingram could not get first downs then we had to pass. The receivers aren't getting a lot of first downs with their catches, so we need three chances for a big catch. The tight-window throws is a fluctuator with our team...they help and hurt, like that int.

WillSaints81 · 12-08-2017, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

He had eight game run heavy streak then in la he reverts back to payton of old. Then goes back to it against carolina and then reverts back in atl. Idk what his deal is but if you arent behind by two scores you continue to run the ball. Throw edmunds in there he is a hard nose runner if ingram was too hurt and see if he can handle it. That said i agree payton lost his touch and im not sure if he can earn my respect unless we win it all

That's just it...we pass when from behind(even by a fg) and run when ahead. They just don't care about blowing teams out.

WillSaints81 · 12-08-2017, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

SP did the same last week vs Carolina.

Had a chance to get a long drive going up by 10 points, on 3rd and 1 at our own 25 yard lin he calls play action pass and Brees gets sacked. He was bailed out by a fumble on a punt return the next play.

SP made some real bad play calls by not running the ball, but this one falls squarely on Brees. He had the game in his hands, ATL was getting outside push but not much up front and he just wouldn't step up.

He's been missing wide open throws a lot this season.

We need to play lights out the next 3 games, if ATL and Carolina get on a win streak we are in for a bad end to December.

Because when we were on the streak, he got lots of rest. Unfortunately, that rest causes rust. Brees just does not look the same without the volume. I know people are saying we should run the ball, but running the ball does not help if it does not result in first downs or results in 3rd and longs.

And again, the reason Brees threw into that coverage is because in the past players caught those because of the "tight windows". Josh hill and Hoomanawanui are terrible players that need to go this offseason. They are not Shockey, Campbell, or Miller who blocked and caught passes.

Papa Voodoo · 12-08-2017, 11:58 AM

I understand the frustration. You don't call plays for them not to work. What if we ran and Ingram fumbled the ball? Then it would be why didn't we throw...we have a HoF QB. I don't fault the Seahawks for calling a slant in the SB and throwing a pick. If it is executed as called it's a TD. Drew should have NEVER made that throw. He did. We still had a chance for OT and Sean went loco. The team will rally around that. The game last night will pay big dividends going forward. We're going to the playoffs. Enjoy the ride

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Run The Fking Ball, Sean!** SP did the same last week vs Carolina. Had a chance to get a long drive going up by 10 points, on 3rd and 1 at our own 25 yard lin he calls play action pass and Brees gets sacked. He was bailed out by a fumble on a punt return the next play. SP made some real bad play calls by not running the ball, but this one falls squarely on Brees. He had the game in his hands, ATL was getting outside push but not much up front and he just wouldn't step up. He's been missing wide open throws a lot this season. We need to play lights out the next 3 games, if ATL and Carolina get on a win streak we are in for a bad end to December. RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Run The Fking Ball, Sean!** It was a bad decision by drew. That's what it was. Halo description of near suicide is accurate. You could run almost anything, but to run that...and to throw that with so much on the line and at leasta tie already guaranteed just makes 0 sense. If it is nipping at us this much as fans, I bet Drew hasn't come close to letting it go. He will, but I can guarantee he hasn't yet. With everything the refs did we had that game in the bag with less than 2 minutes to go and it is upsetting because of that. We now need to get healthy because this is a really good team we have and if we can get healthy I think we are looking at 12-4 let the chips fall. nola_swammi and rezburna like this.
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12-08-2017, 10:36 AM	#26
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Run The Fking Ball, Sean! Originally Posted by blackangold** Ingram was hurt you guys... he was questionable before the game with toe issues, gameplan was likely heavily on Kamara. Ingram got even more banged up during the game. I don’t blame the calls on the last drive... that was all brees. Then he should not have been taking first down carries... If there is one thing I observed, it is that Brees throws shorter passes than before, and is more susceptible to sacks than before. That's not on SP except for the fact that he isn't accommodating Drew. Drew is getting sacked on crucial third downs quite a few times this season and that's mostly a result of running the ball for little gains on first down or loss of yards, which puts the offense in a hole. Passes get completed, but mostly they are screens to RBs and WRs. Short-yardage catches that don't result in first downs are an issue. Another problem is the Oline not being disciplined enough because we always get too many offensive penalties. That could be the difference without Streif. He is not in there to set that team straight. That's a mostly young and immature oline.

12-08-2017, 10:40 AM	#27
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Run The Fking Ball, Sean! Originally Posted by jeanpierre Black, my point is we shouldn't have even been passing at that point regardless...** In all honesty, if Ingram could not get first downs then we had to pass. The receivers aren't getting a lot of first downs with their catches, so we need three chances for a big catch. The tight-window throws is a fluctuator with our team...they help and hurt, like that int.

12-08-2017, 10:44 AM	#28
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Run The Fking Ball, Sean! Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83** He had eight game run heavy streak then in la he reverts back to payton of old. Then goes back to it against carolina and then reverts back in atl. Idk what his deal is but if you arent behind by two scores you continue to run the ball. Throw edmunds in there he is a hard nose runner if ingram was too hurt and see if he can handle it. That said i agree payton lost his touch and im not sure if he can earn my respect unless we win it all That's just it...we pass when from behind(even by a fg) and run when ahead. They just don't care about blowing teams out.

12-08-2017, 10:52 AM	#29
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Run The Fking Ball, Sean! Originally Posted by dizzle88** SP did the same last week vs Carolina. Had a chance to get a long drive going up by 10 points, on 3rd and 1 at our own 25 yard lin he calls play action pass and Brees gets sacked. He was bailed out by a fumble on a punt return the next play. SP made some real bad play calls by not running the ball, but this one falls squarely on Brees. He had the game in his hands, ATL was getting outside push but not much up front and he just wouldn't step up. He's been missing wide open throws a lot this season. We need to play lights out the next 3 games, if ATL and Carolina get on a win streak we are in for a bad end to December. Because when we were on the streak, he got lots of rest. Unfortunately, that rest causes rust. Brees just does not look the same without the volume. I know people are saying we should run the ball, but running the ball does not help if it does not result in first downs or results in 3rd and longs. And again, the reason Brees threw into that coverage is because in the past players caught those because of the "tight windows". Josh hill and Hoomanawanui are terrible players that need to go this offseason. They are not Shockey, Campbell, or Miller who blocked and caught passes.

12-08-2017, 11:58 AM	#30
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Run The Fking Ball, Sean!** I understand the frustration. You don't call plays for them not to work. What if we ran and Ingram fumbled the ball? Then it would be why didn't we throw...we have a HoF QB. I don't fault the Seahawks for calling a slant in the SB and throwing a pick. If it is executed as called it's a TD. Drew should have NEVER made that throw. He did. We still had a chance for OT and Sean went loco. The team will rally around that. The game last night will pay big dividends going forward. We're going to the playoffs. Enjoy the ride