Saints Sign DE George Johnson

12-13-2017, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

FWIW Muhammad was last activated vs the Packers (10/22). He had 3 snaps & no impact. If he's active vs the Jets, I'd like to see his production on special teams.

You have to understand less than 5 snaps is to give him some game time experience not to see if he going to be a impact. No way any player can cause a impact with 3 snaps their rookie season. The kid need some game time experience, something to help you evaluate his talent. Maybe, they're trying to keep his value less in order to sign him to a longer contract, I don't know, but I'll love to stop speculating and see the guy on the field. He might just be a difference maker, and activating him could better help evaluate him.

Rugby Saint II · 12-13-2017, 02:35 PM

This defensive line coach has done wonders this year! If the team feels the need to go outside the roster then they have their reasons.

The problem with playing him five snaps a game is that you would have been taking impact players that have gelled off the field, and a few snaps could have impacted the flow of the game. The coaches see Muhammed at practice every day. We've only seen him perform against second and third string players in preseason.

Edit: I don't know anything about George Jonson. I hope he's another good retread for the Saints. Don't forget our D-line coach is good and with a vet he might get the concepts quicker.

The Dude · 12-13-2017, 02:40 PM

They will use him on 3rd down this week. We will see what he’s got.

jeanpierre · 12-13-2017, 02:53 PM

I'd rather move Rankins to DE and see if he could bump his production there, bring back Justin Zimmer who'd have an opportunity for some snaps at the DT3...

K Major · 12-13-2017, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

You have to understand less than 5 snaps is to give him some game time experience not to see if he going to be a impact. No way any player can cause a impact with 3 snaps their rookie season. The kid need some game time experience, something to help you evaluate his talent. Maybe, they're trying to keep his value less in order to sign him to a longer contract, I don't know, but I'll love to stop speculating and see the guy on the field. He might just be a difference maker, and activating him could better help evaluate him.

I'm with you Nola. I've actually asked several times on this forum on "why isn't he active this week?". Apparently the positional coaches & staff see it from a different perspective than we do

. All I know is that during t/c & subsequent pre season games, he performed better than the man in front of him ... even in mop up duty.

My guess is that he is activated either this week vs the Jets or Tampa.

saintfan · 12-13-2017, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm with you Nola. I've actually asked several times on this forum on "why isn't he active this week?". Apparently the positional coaches & staff see it from a different perspective than we do .

All I know is that during t/c & subsequent pre season games, he performed better than the man in front of him ... even in mop up duty.

I'm reading this and I'm thinking Jake Delhomme. Cut by Parcells among others. Couldn't crack the lineup here unless the guy in front of him was hurt. The coaches never saw 'it' during the week. Guy comes in and lights it up.

Some guys need to be on the field. It's just not an exact science.

QBREES9 · 12-14-2017, 01:15 PM

Hartford Ct Dwight Freeney. Would have loved to seen him in a Saints UNI.

QBREES9 · 12-14-2017, 01:22 PM

Hartford Ct Dwight Freeney. Would have loved to seen him in a Saints UNI.

turbo_dog · 12-14-2017, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I'm reading this and I'm thinking Jake Delhomme. Cut by Parcells among others. Couldn't crack the lineup here unless the guy in front of him was hurt. The coaches never saw 'it' during the week. Guy comes in and lights it up.

Some guys need to be on the field. It's just not an exact science.

I think of Ninkovich and Casillas. Seems like all of us saw potential and production, but the coaches didn't feel the same way. Then they went to other teams and shined.

foreverfan · 12-16-2017, 02:16 AM

Is there an echo in here?

12-13-2017, 02:15 PM	#21
Threaded by nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by K Major FWIW Muhammad was last activated vs the Packers (10/22). He had 3 snaps & no impact. If he's active vs the Jets, I'd like to see his production on special teams. You have to understand less than 5 snaps is to give him some game time experience not to see if he going to be a impact. No way any player can cause a impact with 3 snaps their rookie season. The kid need some game time experience, something to help you evaluate his talent. Maybe, they're trying to keep his value less in order to sign him to a longer contract, I don't know, but I'll love to stop speculating and see the guy on the field. He might just be a difference maker, and activating him could better help evaluate him. Rell&Gold likes this.
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12-13-2017, 02:35 PM	#22
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints Sign DE George Johnson This defensive line coach has done wonders this year! If the team feels the need to go outside the roster then they have their reasons. The problem with playing him five snaps a game is that you would have been taking impact players that have gelled off the field, and a few snaps could have impacted the flow of the game. The coaches see Muhammed at practice every day. We've only seen him perform against second and third string players in preseason. Edit: I don't know anything about George Jonson. I hope he's another good retread for the Saints. Don't forget our D-line coach is good and with a vet he might get the concepts quicker. 44Champs likes this.
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12-13-2017, 02:40 PM	#23
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12-13-2017, 03:07 PM	#25
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Sign DE George Johnson Originally Posted by nola_swammi You have to understand less than 5 snaps is to give him some game time experience not to see if he going to be a impact. No way any player can cause a impact with 3 snaps their rookie season. The kid need some game time experience, something to help you evaluate his talent. Maybe, they're trying to keep his value less in order to sign him to a longer contract, I don't know, but I'll love to stop speculating and see the guy on the field. He might just be a difference maker, and activating him could better help evaluate him. I'm with you Nola. I've actually asked several times on this forum on "why isn't he active this week?". Apparently the positional coaches & staff see it from a different perspective than we do . All I know is that during t/c & subsequent pre season games, he performed better than the man in front of him ... even in mop up duty. My guess is that he is activated either this week vs the Jets or Tampa. Rell&Gold likes this.

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12-13-2017, 03:11 PM	#26
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Sign DE George Johnson Originally Posted by K Major I'm with you Nola. I've actually asked several times on this forum on "why isn't he active this week?". Apparently the positional coaches & staff see it from a different perspective than we do . All I know is that during t/c & subsequent pre season games, he performed better than the man in front of him ... even in mop up duty. I'm reading this and I'm thinking Jake Delhomme. Cut by Parcells among others. Couldn't crack the lineup here unless the guy in front of him was hurt. The coaches never saw 'it' during the week. Guy comes in and lights it up. Some guys need to be on the field. It's just not an exact science. K Major and MarchingOn like this.

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12-14-2017, 04:15 PM	#29
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: Saints Sign DE George Johnson Originally Posted by saintfan I'm reading this and I'm thinking Jake Delhomme. Cut by Parcells among others. Couldn't crack the lineup here unless the guy in front of him was hurt. The coaches never saw 'it' during the week. Guy comes in and lights it up. Some guys need to be on the field. It's just not an exact science. I think of Ninkovich and Casillas. Seems like all of us saw potential and production, but the coaches didn't feel the same way. Then they went to other teams and shined. Rell&Gold likes this.

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