Can we all agree, Vacaro....

billyt81 · 12-18-2017, 09:24 PM

Vaccarro is a mediocre cover safety. He can play a zone decently and his ball skills are acceptable. He will pick it off if you make a mistake. He can not run with slot receivers or 3rd down backs. He blitzes well and hits likea LB. When he hits you, you going down. He's OK.

Cruize · 12-19-2017, 07:27 AM

Inconsistent. Great plays. Bad plays. Better than no great plays at all. Won't be a Saint next year.

ScottF · 12-19-2017, 09:37 AM

If he wants $7 mill next year I'd say let him go get it.
Recently we've had to play a lot of 3 safety sets, primarily because of injuries/personnel. With depth in the def backfield now, he is a little bit more expendable.

might even get a comp pick in the deal (unheard of, I know)

https://overthecap.com/position/safety/

MatthewT · 12-20-2017, 05:20 AM

For the Saints, KV is at his best when he is playing LB. He has the talent, but not the discipline to play a lot of coverage, and please do not ever line him up as the deep center guy in a cover 3. With that said, someone will overpay for him in free agency, and I just hope it's not another team in the NFC South. If he stays in the NFC South he will have at least 2 games per year that he is lights out.

K Major · 12-20-2017, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

For the Saints, KV is at his best when he is playing LB. He has the talent, but not the discipline to play a lot of coverage, and please do not ever line him up as the deep center guy in a cover 3.

That's the problem, he's not a safety with coverage skills. He'll make a tackle or two at the line & a lot will praise him on having a good game. Yet some forget about the 5 passes he gives up or the stupid pass interference he commits in a game. He's average in the slot & even worse in deep safety zone. Here's my question ... Why pay a guy who plays decent in a LB role close up on the line? I wouldn't.

Eric Reid
Kemal Ishmael
Tavon Wilson
Morgan Burnett

All better viable safety options in 2018 FA.

ChrisXVI · 12-20-2017, 09:18 AM

Eric Reid is an interesting case. The 49ers have moved him to WLB because they preferred Jaquiski Tartt at SS. Curious to see if they invest in Reid to play that moneybacker role because if not he’d be the ideal Vaccaro replacement.

Crusader · 12-20-2017, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Eric Reid is an interesting case. The 49ers have moved him to WLB because they preferred Jaquiski Tartt at SS. Curious to see if they invest in Reid to play that moneybacker role because if not he’d be the ideal Vaccaro replacement.

I'd be intrested in Reid if he became available.

ChrisXVI · 12-20-2017, 11:27 AM

Oh and speaking of Eric Reid... If we choose to go the draft route to replace Vaccaro then there’s Eric’s brother Justin Reid out of Stanford.

subguy · 12-20-2017, 06:01 AM

Inconsistent...only word I can think of

Budsdrinker · 12-20-2017, 08:14 AM

Curious how much of the groin injury is still affecting him? That could definitely slow him down a step or 2 in coverage.

12-18-2017, 09:24 PM	#1
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Vaccarro is a mediocre cover safety. He can play a zone decently and his ball skills are acceptable. He will pick it off if you make a mistake. He can not run with slot receivers or 3rd down backs. He blitzes well and hits likea LB. When he hits you, you going down. He's OK. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

12-19-2017, 07:27 AM	#2
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Inconsistent. Great plays. Bad plays. Better than no great plays at all. Won't be a Saint next year. ChrisXVI and K Major like this.
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12-19-2017, 09:37 AM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... If he wants $7 mill next year I'd say let him go get it. Recently we've had to play a lot of 3 safety sets, primarily because of injuries/personnel. With depth in the def backfield now, he is a little bit more expendable. might even get a comp pick in the deal (unheard of, I know) https://overthecap.com/position/safety/

12-20-2017, 05:20 AM	#4
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... For the Saints, KV is at his best when he is playing LB. He has the talent, but not the discipline to play a lot of coverage, and please do not ever line him up as the deep center guy in a cover 3. With that said, someone will overpay for him in free agency, and I just hope it's not another team in the NFC South. If he stays in the NFC South he will have at least 2 games per year that he is lights out.

12-20-2017, 09:01 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Originally Posted by MatthewT For the Saints, KV is at his best when he is playing LB. He has the talent, but not the discipline to play a lot of coverage, and please do not ever line him up as the deep center guy in a cover 3. That's the problem, he's not a safety with coverage skills. He'll make a tackle or two at the line & a lot will praise him on having a good game. Yet some forget about the 5 passes he gives up or the stupid pass interference he commits in a game. He's average in the slot & even worse in deep safety zone. Here's my question ... Why pay a guy who plays decent in a LB role close up on the line? I wouldn't. Eric Reid Kemal Ishmael Tavon Wilson Morgan Burnett All better viable safety options in 2018 FA. ChrisXVI likes this.

12-20-2017, 09:18 AM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Eric Reid is an interesting case. The 49ers have moved him to WLB because they preferred Jaquiski Tartt at SS. Curious to see if they invest in Reid to play that moneybacker role because if not he’d be the ideal Vaccaro replacement. K Major likes this.

12-20-2017, 10:54 AM	#7
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,044	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Eric Reid is an interesting case. The 49ers have moved him to WLB because they preferred Jaquiski Tartt at SS. Curious to see if they invest in Reid to play that moneybacker role because if not he’d be the ideal Vaccaro replacement. I'd be intrested in Reid if he became available.

12-20-2017, 11:27 AM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Oh and speaking of Eric Reid... If we choose to go the draft route to replace Vaccaro then there’s Eric’s brother Justin Reid out of Stanford.

12-20-2017, 06:01 AM	#9
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,102	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Inconsistent...only word I can think of Crusader and K Major like this.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Curious how much of the groin injury is still affecting him? That could definitely slow him down a step or 2 in coverage.

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