Please Mr. Payton...

SaintGup · 12-20-2017, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

I've never understood the point in always running the ball on 2nd and short. It is statistically the best down and distance for taking a shot down the field and knowing you can easily convert on 3rd down.

It might be the best for taking a shot, but is it the best for getting the first down? Also, I don't think anyone knows they can easily convert a third down. Ask Washington. 😀

hitta · 12-22-2017, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGup

It might be the best for taking a shot, but is it the best for getting the first down? Also, I don't think anyone knows they can easily convert a third down. Ask Washington. 😀

That logic makes no sense though. Anytime you don't pick up 10 yards on first down it will always be second down. If you do pick up 10 yards it is just first down again and you start the process all over again. 2nd and short(and even 3rd and short) are more favorable down and distances statistically than 1st and 10. 2nd and short is the one time where you can feel comfortable in picking up the first down and not have the fear of the next down being 4th down. As a result the scenario should offer the best situation in order to maximize yardage over just picking up the first down.

If you run the ball on 2nd and short.. convert the first down, then you'd have to pick up enough yards again on first down to put yourself in an equally favorable position.

12-20-2017, 02:58 PM	#1
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Re: Please Mr. Payton... Originally Posted by hitta I've never understood the point in always running the ball on 2nd and short. It is statistically the best down and distance for taking a shot down the field and knowing you can easily convert on 3rd down. It might be the best for taking a shot, but is it the best for getting the first down? Also, I don't think anyone knows they can easily convert a third down. Ask Washington. 😀 Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-22-2017, 01:07 PM	#2
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,331	Re: Please Mr. Payton... Originally Posted by SaintGup It might be the best for taking a shot, but is it the best for getting the first down? Also, I don't think anyone knows they can easily convert a third down. Ask Washington. 😀 That logic makes no sense though. Anytime you don't pick up 10 yards on first down it will always be second down. If you do pick up 10 yards it is just first down again and you start the process all over again. 2nd and short(and even 3rd and short) are more favorable down and distances statistically than 1st and 10. 2nd and short is the one time where you can feel comfortable in picking up the first down and not have the fear of the next down being 4th down. As a result the scenario should offer the best situation in order to maximize yardage over just picking up the first down. If you run the ball on 2nd and short.. convert the first down, then you'd have to pick up enough yards again on first down to put yourself in an equally favorable position.
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