Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race

WillSaints81 · 12-23-2017, 07:15 PM

We did start 0-2 but we also played two of the three locked in playoff teams with some questionable offensive usage and play calling. The 0-2 start inspired the team but we didn't just lose those games. We lost to the rams week 12 and that may have been how the vikings and pats games turned out where it's a tossup in the last five minutes as to who would win if we played them later on.

The 2009-2011 team had 3-1, 1-1, and 3-1 records against said teams, and I am talking about teams outside of our division. Because you want to make teams in your division scared? You beat the teams out of it that are good. Do we have a winning record against good non-divisional teams this season? No, we don't. In fact, we are actually 0-3 or 1-3 against them depending on if Detroit gets in(who is a weak playoff team this season to begin with) and that is why we are sitting here needing to win out to win the division. We could have clinched with one more win or perhaps last week because pressure to catch up in the division does affect the game performance.

WhoDat!656 · 12-23-2017, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We did start 0-2 but we also played two of the three locked in playoff teams with some questionable offensive usage and play calling. The 0-2 start inspired the team but we didn't just lose those games. We lost to the rams week 12 and that may have been how the vikings and pats games turned out where it's a tossup in the last five minutes as to who would win if we played them later on.

The 2009-2011 team had 3-1, 1-1, and 3-1 records against said teams, and I am talking about teams outside of our division. Because you want to make teams in your division scared? You beat the teams out of it that are good. Do we have a winning record against good non-divisional teams this season? No, we don't. In fact, we are actually 0-3 or 1-3 against them depending on if Detroit gets in(who is a weak playoff team this season to begin with) and that is why we are sitting here needing to win out to win the division. We could have clinched with one more win or perhaps last week because pressure to catch up in the division does affect the game performance.

I totally disagree!

The Bills and Dolphins are still in the playoff hunt

You can't knock the Saints because they played a Rodgers-less Packers team

3 of the 4 teams that we have lost to are double-digit, 1st round bye division winning teams; splitting the season series with the failclowns happens more often than not

Saints could have folded the tent against the Lions and Redskins but we found ways to win those games

The Saints are legitimate Super Bowl contenders

Enjoy the ride!

The Dude · 12-23-2017, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I totally disagree!

The Bills and Dolphins are still in the playoff hunt

You can't knock the Saints because they played a Rodgers-less Packers team

3 of the 4 teams that we have lost to are double-digit, 1st round bye division winning teams; splitting the season series with the failclowns happens more often than not

Saints could have folded the tent against the Lions and Redskins but we found ways to win those games

The Saints are legitimate Super Bowl contenders

Enjoy the ride!

I really don’t see a Super Bowl this year. Just don’t. I would like to see us knock out Atlanta or Carolina though.

ChrisXVI · 12-23-2017, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I really don’t see a Super Bowl this year. Just don’t. I would like to see us knock out Atlanta or Carolina though.

I don’t either, but it’s been a great season and the team’s finally gotten out of the funk they were in. If we can solve our 3rd down issues on offense then I think we’ll have a great shot at it next season.

RockyMountainSaint · 12-23-2017, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don’t either, but it’s been a great season and the team’s finally gotten out of the funk they were in. If we can solve our 3rd down issues on offense then I think we’ll have a great shot at it next season.

The 3d down issues and SP getting in his own way are synonymous.

Good luck.

Pete Carmichael as play caller is the only option.

WhoDat!656 · 12-23-2017, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I really don’t see a Super Bowl this year. Just don’t. I would like to see us knock out Atlanta or Carolina though.

How many of us saw an 8 game win streak, double digit win season, or the Saints not losing to a team with a losing record?

saintsfan1976 · 12-23-2017, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

The 3d down issues and SP getting in his own way are synonymous.

Good luck.

Pete Carmichael as play caller is the only option.

So zero credit to the man for having another top 5 Offense? If you’re putting the season to bed shouldn’t you acknowledge some of the key injuries suffered?

Utah_Saint · 12-23-2017, 10:34 PM

Non-issue.

Playoff teams SOV (strength of victory)

1. Carolina Panthers - .520
2. Kansas City Chiefs - ..518
3. New England Patriots - .487
4. New Orleans Saints - .486
5. Pittsburg Steelers - .465
6. Minnesota Vikings - .465
7. Atlanta Falcons - .460
8. Los Angeles Rams - .433
9. Philadelphia Eagles - .417
10. Jacksonville Jaguars - .378
11. Tennessee Titans - .365
12. Baltimore Ravens - .307

Only 3 playoff teams have a higher strength of victory than the Saints. The reason the Saints still haven't clinched the division is because the NFC South is the best division in the NFL this year and has 3 playoff contending teams

AlaskaSaints · 12-23-2017, 10:51 PM

Only tomorrow matters at this point.

The Dude · 12-23-2017, 11:32 PM

Like said above, it’s been a great season. It’s entertaining and we have been competitive all year. We are in the drivers seat to win the division. As long as we have a shot all season without getting too far behind I’m happy. Games will have meaning until the final time ticks off the clock against Tampa.
We also have a good young group on a team that looks like it’s on the upswing.
Less penalties and converting 3rd downs would really help us out. I would really try and make a push for Foles this offseason. I think he would be a good replacement for Drew when the time comes.

12-23-2017, 07:15 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race We did start 0-2 but we also played two of the three locked in playoff teams with some questionable offensive usage and play calling. The 0-2 start inspired the team but we didn't just lose those games. We lost to the rams week 12 and that may have been how the vikings and pats games turned out where it's a tossup in the last five minutes as to who would win if we played them later on. The 2009-2011 team had 3-1, 1-1, and 3-1 records against said teams, and I am talking about teams outside of our division. Because you want to make teams in your division scared? You beat the teams out of it that are good. Do we have a winning record against good non-divisional teams this season? No, we don't. In fact, we are actually 0-3 or 1-3 against them depending on if Detroit gets in(who is a weak playoff team this season to begin with) and that is why we are sitting here needing to win out to win the division. We could have clinched with one more win or perhaps last week because pressure to catch up in the division does affect the game performance. hagan714 likes this.

12-23-2017, 07:57 PM	#2
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,063	Re: Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We did start 0-2 but we also played two of the three locked in playoff teams with some questionable offensive usage and play calling. The 0-2 start inspired the team but we didn't just lose those games. We lost to the rams week 12 and that may have been how the vikings and pats games turned out where it's a tossup in the last five minutes as to who would win if we played them later on. The 2009-2011 team had 3-1, 1-1, and 3-1 records against said teams, and I am talking about teams outside of our division. Because you want to make teams in your division scared? You beat the teams out of it that are good. Do we have a winning record against good non-divisional teams this season? No, we don't. In fact, we are actually 0-3 or 1-3 against them depending on if Detroit gets in(who is a weak playoff team this season to begin with) and that is why we are sitting here needing to win out to win the division. We could have clinched with one more win or perhaps last week because pressure to catch up in the division does affect the game performance. I totally disagree! The Bills and Dolphins are still in the playoff hunt You can't knock the Saints because they played a Rodgers-less Packers team 3 of the 4 teams that we have lost to are double-digit, 1st round bye division winning teams; splitting the season series with the failclowns happens more often than not Saints could have folded the tent against the Lions and Redskins but we found ways to win those games The Saints are legitimate Super Bowl contenders Enjoy the ride!

12-23-2017, 08:48 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I totally disagree! The Bills and Dolphins are still in the playoff hunt You can't knock the Saints because they played a Rodgers-less Packers team 3 of the 4 teams that we have lost to are double-digit, 1st round bye division winning teams; splitting the season series with the failclowns happens more often than not Saints could have folded the tent against the Lions and Redskins but we found ways to win those games The Saints are legitimate Super Bowl contenders Enjoy the ride! I really don’t see a Super Bowl this year. Just don’t. I would like to see us knock out Atlanta or Carolina though. RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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12-23-2017, 09:01 PM	#4
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race Originally Posted by The Dude I really don’t see a Super Bowl this year. Just don’t. I would like to see us knock out Atlanta or Carolina though. I don’t either, but it’s been a great season and the team’s finally gotten out of the funk they were in. If we can solve our 3rd down issues on offense then I think we’ll have a great shot at it next season. The Dude likes this.

12-23-2017, 09:42 PM	#5
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don’t either, but it’s been a great season and the team’s finally gotten out of the funk they were in. If we can solve our 3rd down issues on offense then I think we’ll have a great shot at it next season. The 3d down issues and SP getting in his own way are synonymous. Good luck. Pete Carmichael as play caller is the only option.

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12-23-2017, 09:48 PM	#6
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,063	Re: Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race Originally Posted by The Dude I really don’t see a Super Bowl this year. Just don’t. I would like to see us knock out Atlanta or Carolina though. How many of us saw an 8 game win streak, double digit win season, or the Saints not losing to a team with a losing record?

12-23-2017, 10:09 PM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,849 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint The 3d down issues and SP getting in his own way are synonymous. Good luck. Pete Carmichael as play caller is the only option. So zero credit to the man for having another top 5 Offense? If you’re putting the season to bed shouldn’t you acknowledge some of the key injuries suffered?

12-23-2017, 10:34 PM	#8
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race Non-issue. Playoff teams SOV (strength of victory) 1. Carolina Panthers - .520 2. Kansas City Chiefs - ..518 3. New England Patriots - .487 4. New Orleans Saints - .486 5. Pittsburg Steelers - .465 6. Minnesota Vikings - .465 7. Atlanta Falcons - .460 8. Los Angeles Rams - .433 9. Philadelphia Eagles - .417 10. Jacksonville Jaguars - .378 11. Tennessee Titans - .365 12. Baltimore Ravens - .307 Only 3 playoff teams have a higher strength of victory than the Saints. The reason the Saints still haven't clinched the division is because the NFC South is the best division in the NFL this year and has 3 playoff contending teams hagan714 and Audiotom like this.

12-23-2017, 10:51 PM	#9
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Lose to playoff teams and you will be in a pressure-driven tight division race Like said above, it’s been a great season. It’s entertaining and we have been competitive all year. We are in the drivers seat to win the division. As long as we have a shot all season without getting too far behind I’m happy. Games will have meaning until the final time ticks off the clock against Tampa. We also have a good young group on a team that looks like it’s on the upswing. Less penalties and converting 3rd downs would really help us out. I would really try and make a push for Foles this offseason. I think he would be a good replacement for Drew when the time comes.
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