Another Darren Howard Rumor

ssmitty · 04-20-2005, 04:45 AM

it\'ll never work............

JKool · 04-20-2005, 08:07 AM

LKelley67 · 04-20-2005, 08:45 AM

sign him before saturday and trade will smith to dallas for #11. he\'s as good as they will find at that spot and has a year of proof and experience under his belt. #11 turns into either barron, rolle-pacman, or a surefire dj even if it takes an easier trade. n.o. essentially gets a do-over in the smith pick then getting someone you feel that will be as impacting as him but at a position of more need.

Puddinhead · 04-20-2005, 10:44 AM

sign him before saturday and trade will smith to dallas for #11. he\'s as good as they will find at that spot and has a year of proof and experience under his belt. #11 turns into either barron, rolle-pacman, or a surefire dj even if it takes an easier trade. n.o. essentially gets a do-over in the smith pick then getting someone you feel that will be as impacting as him but at a position of more need.

WHAT?!? What in the world are you talking about?? You got lucky and hit the jackpot, so to speak, getting a real quality NFL defensive end with your pick last year....so you want to give him up to get another first round pick so you can roll the dice again???? Dude...no offense, but if you hit a big Exacta at the track, do you immediately put everything you won on a nag in the next race? You do realize that it\'s almost a 50/50 proposition as to whether or not a first round pick will pan out to be worth spending a first round pick on him, don\'t you?

GoldenTomb · 04-20-2005, 01:20 PM

sign him before saturday and trade will smith to dallas for #11. he\'s as good as they will find at that spot and has a year of proof and experience under his belt. #11 turns into either barron, rolle-pacman, or a surefire dj even if it takes an easier trade. n.o. essentially gets a do-over in the smith pick then getting someone you feel that will be as impacting as him but at a position of more need.

I had to re-read this because you usually post some pretty compelling arguements and opinions, but this I had to call out.

ARE U SERIOUS????

Will Smith is more talented and has far more upside than Howard. If one or the other has to go I don\'t see how you can pick Smith....hate to lose him but SEE YA HOWARD. Smith will reach or eclipse Howard\'s best numbers THIS YEAR. Mark my words. Write it down.

saintswhodi · 04-20-2005, 01:55 PM

I am gonna guess the keep Howard crowd missed this very fine point by JKool.

Either way, at less than 1 mil in his first year, and 14 mil signing bonus over the next 6 years, his cap number will come down quite a bit for this year. That sounds just fine to me. However, this means that his salary must be pretty darned high after this year (32 mil over 5 years). 6 mil a year for a guy who is going to be in a rotation still sounds pretty ridiculous to me - especially when we need mucho help at 2 linebacker positions and one DT positions.

Tennessee anyone? San Fran? Yeah, let\'s claim victory that we can cut his cap in year one, then have to continually cut players or let them walk in FA years 2-6 of the deal. Wow. :casstet:

04-20-2005, 04:45 AM	#11
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Another Darren Howard Rumor it\'ll never work............
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04-20-2005, 08:07 AM	#12
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Another Darren Howard Rumor

04-20-2005, 08:45 AM	#13
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Another Darren Howard Rumor sign him before saturday and trade will smith to dallas for #11. he\'s as good as they will find at that spot and has a year of proof and experience under his belt. #11 turns into either barron, rolle-pacman, or a surefire dj even if it takes an easier trade. n.o. essentially gets a do-over in the smith pick then getting someone you feel that will be as impacting as him but at a position of more need.

04-20-2005, 10:44 AM	#14
Puddinhead 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 102	Another Darren Howard Rumor sign him before saturday and trade will smith to dallas for #11. he\'s as good as they will find at that spot and has a year of proof and experience under his belt. #11 turns into either barron, rolle-pacman, or a surefire dj even if it takes an easier trade. n.o. essentially gets a do-over in the smith pick then getting someone you feel that will be as impacting as him but at a position of more need. WHAT?!? What in the world are you talking about?? You got lucky and hit the jackpot, so to speak, getting a real quality NFL defensive end with your pick last year....so you want to give him up to get another first round pick so you can roll the dice again???? Dude...no offense, but if you hit a big Exacta at the track, do you immediately put everything you won on a nag in the next race? You do realize that it\'s almost a 50/50 proposition as to whether or not a first round pick will pan out to be worth spending a first round pick on him, don\'t you?
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04-20-2005, 01:20 PM	#15
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Another Darren Howard Rumor sign him before saturday and trade will smith to dallas for #11. he\'s as good as they will find at that spot and has a year of proof and experience under his belt. #11 turns into either barron, rolle-pacman, or a surefire dj even if it takes an easier trade. n.o. essentially gets a do-over in the smith pick then getting someone you feel that will be as impacting as him but at a position of more need. I had to re-read this because you usually post some pretty compelling arguements and opinions, but this I had to call out. ARE U SERIOUS???? Will Smith is more talented and has far more upside than Howard. If one or the other has to go I don\'t see how you can pick Smith....hate to lose him but SEE YA HOWARD. Smith will reach or eclipse Howard\'s best numbers THIS YEAR. Mark my words. Write it down.
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04-20-2005, 01:55 PM	#16
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Another Darren Howard Rumor I am gonna guess the keep Howard crowd missed this very fine point by JKool. Either way, at less than 1 mil in his first year, and 14 mil signing bonus over the next 6 years, his cap number will come down quite a bit for this year. That sounds just fine to me. However, this means that his salary must be pretty darned high after this year (32 mil over 5 years). 6 mil a year for a guy who is going to be in a rotation still sounds pretty ridiculous to me - especially when we need mucho help at 2 linebacker positions and one DT positions. Tennessee anyone? San Fran? Yeah, let\'s claim victory that we can cut his cap in year one, then have to continually cut players or let them walk in FA years 2-6 of the deal. Wow. :casstet: